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How long would a global effort by all of Humanity to build a spaceship like ENTERPRISE take?

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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I suggest we build flying saucers like the alien ET's do. I figure they know more about space travel than we do.




posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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Assuming that the ship wasn't as advanced as the Enterprise and could at minimum support human life and that all of earths resources were 100% devoted to building the ship I estimate the following statistics:

5 to 10 years to complete over a thousand launchpads and smaller shuttle ships to bring supplies back and forth to the larger ship built in space + proper landing and retrieval of craft systems.

1 to 10 years to begin manufacturing and designing supplies

30 years of construction just to bring the framing of the ship into space.

40 years to complete outer casing and god knows how long for interior elements, electrical and diagnostics.

Although i want to point out that i did skip a few things in my estimation like fuel and supplies it would be a lot easier if you had an object such as an asteroid that was already in space that you could drill some holes into and mount rocket engines in them.

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posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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I think we have missed the point. The OP stated he wanted to see what it would take to build a ship like the Enterprise and a ship that could hold a million people.

First off, I don't think there will ever be a ship built big enough to house and feed a million people.

In Star Trek, the Enterprise was the flagship of Star Fleet and in it's latest incarnation (NCC-1701-E) it was 685 Meters long with 24 decks, and a crew compliment of about 2500. So we are a long way from housing a million people.
USS Enterprise (NCC-1701)



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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I believe we can use huge graniite pieces to build just these types of ships in a very fast manner,and I also believe we can phase the state of matter or dimension the granite exists in to fly it like you could fly an airplane.By directing the phaseing of the states of matter or dimensions we pull the granite ship along with the ripple in dimensions as if it were weightless.
However in each state of matter it travels through it must remain granite if the phaseing is stopped.

This is why the vids of the spaceship on the moon look as if it were made of granite,because it was,what better thing to make your ship out of than granite,and if it is weightless and requires no special effort to utilise as transport,what better material,you can even fix a spare tire anywhere in the universe.


Remember that when you shut off the dimensional generators your craft MUST be able to structurally hold and maintain its physical integrity in the particular state of matter you find yourself in.

hence the preference for granite.For different applications any material can be used,if you were a fishman you could build a simple one to hold you and your water and you could transport yourself out to land and shut off your dimensional generators and materialise anywhere and you could get out of the craft in your "wet"suit,and walk around and be ok.

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posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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The ship the Eldridge was put into this phaseing between dimensional states of matter and the generators were shut off with men exposed to the states of matter they were in at the moment and because it was an uncontrolled experiment and an irregular and unfocused field it ended up leaveing some men phased into the ship itself,the neutral dimension generated was going through both the men and ship and when it was shut off the artificially produced NEUTRAL state of matter or dimension disappeared and the original states returned combined together.But because the human flesh wasnt protected properly it wasnt able to maintain its integrity over the iron of the ship and the ship won the natural tug of war in the absence of the artificially generated field when it was shut of either by design or most probably accident or ignorance.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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The COMBINE effort and AID of the GLOBAL community?!?

10years to build a "Enterprice"...

And i see that most of you STILL live in the "Money" bubble...

Put money and territorial thinking aside and we are set to go..

The science and tech is available..YES IT IS..
There are dozens of tech that is in its birth
but when that happens it will evolve like a
bolt of lightning. There are tech that IS
available but denied to the public due to
secracy and Nat.Seceurity.

As i said in opening..A GLOBAL combined effort
and we are like 5-10 year of an INTERSTELLAR
ship..But NOT for the MILLIONS.....



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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I think the quickest way to get a ship built would be using mass reduction technology, which from what I have heard, is available and in use today.

from there it would be easy to transport materials into LEO for construction



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by kalisdad
I think the quickest way to get a ship built would be using mass reduction technology, which from what I have heard, is available and in use today.

from there it would be easy to transport materials into LEO for construction



If you could reduce mass you wouldn't have to build anything in leo, just build it on earth and propel it in to orbit.

If you can eliminate mass, building spacecraft becomes like building a submarine.

Its a pity we cant do it. If we could the technology would give us control of the solar system.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by justwokeup
If you could reduce mass you wouldn't have to build anything in leo, just build it on earth and propel it in to orbit.

If you can eliminate mass, building spacecraft becomes like building a submarine.

Its a pity we cant do it. If we could the technology would give us control of the solar system.


OP is talking about a ship capable of housing one million people. I think the area it would take to build this ship would be measured in city blocks. Even with mass reduction, it would be huge



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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If you have the magical ability to reduce/eliminate mass of an object it really doesn't matter how big it is.

Although, i had envisaged something enterprise sized. Not death star sized :-)

If you want something on that scale the sensible thing to do is build smaller ships and go capture a nice big asteroid and core it out. Starship EROS has a nice ring to it.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 06:14 AM
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During WWII the entire russian heavy industrial complex was moved from south to north,the first tank rolled off from the re-located production line 7 days later.
It would not take us long to build one as one global nation.
But as for expense?.....Think about this as one of those as ruling elite..........you could fork out a hell of a lot of money to throw at it.....or.......you could spend far less,waging war for a profit,infiltrating economics,occupying other countries,dampening all forms of liberty in order at a later stage to have your own slave labour force to work on the starship for practically free.......as you own various companies in various sectors,im sure cost will be at a minimal for raw or specialised materials,parts,goods.As you occupy other mineral rich countries,raw materials will be cheaper,afterall....the more you have,the less it becomes in value.


"If you are inside the circle,you cannot see the whole sphere"



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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i dont know how long it would take but i do know that ion propulsion is the fastest way to get around. With these we could reach mars in a month. it works by heating hydrogen to a plasma of 1 million degrees celsius. so a lot of these firing at the same time and solar sails would probably get us to the closest solar system in 100 years estimatedly depending on flying over the asteroid belt and finding a clear path through the oort cloud of our system and the system we're visiting. so its really only good for getting around our solar system. But something like this hiding on the other side of the sun with a million tertiary educated people in various professions would go a long way to ensuring the survival of the human species in case something happens to earth.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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There are many ways to create the bubble that is caused by ioniseing the air.Hamel did it,Searl did it,Hutchison did it,many people have done it,this system allows us to use material from one dimension --ours for example--and use it as a protetive shell as we travel through other dimensions or states of matter.As with the eldridge accident we must be aware that when and where we cease creating a neutral dimension bubble,we and our craft which is built out of material from our dimension or state of matter will immediatly be totally immersed in the state of matter or dimension we are physiclly in at that time.So if we are in a small thin walled aluminum craft and we choose to go 2000 meters beneath the ocean,absolutely nothing will stop us from seamlessly doing so,BUT if lose our ability to artificially generate a neutral dimensional bubble ,we will immediatly be materialised into the state of matter and conditions of being 2000 meters under the sea and we would immediatly be killed,however were we to be in a ship made of granite for example we would be safe in that environment were we to lose our ability to generate a n-dimension bubble,these terms are all new to me as I am coining them as I go,I know no other way to explain the concepts so please attribute them to me if you use them,as I am the source and can help you or anyone else explain them..If there are technical terms for what I am explaining please post them and enlighten me as i know nothing about any type of science or physics.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Great thread. I think if all our resources were dedicated to it, we could do it in under a decade. It would take 20 billion and 10 years to set up the first mars colony. Double both and you could have a real city on mars. If all you are doing is setting up a station around earth's orbit that was big enough to hold millions of people, you could do it in under 10 years. Having it be travel worthy....that could take a while. Maybe 50 years. In under a hundred we could have at least a dozen space faring generational ships with which we could explore space.



posted on Apr, 29 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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If you look at David Hamels craft graphic in motion you will see how simple its construction is,we could build these craft like widgets and just as fast as rideing lawnmowers would take to build.

The size of the craft is relative to the size of the granite balls used in its construction,so you now know via,One4all that the huge granite balls found in odd places around the planet come from super sized craft,hamels small craft uses balls the size of large grapefruits and is about 25 ft across or something like that,so we can extrapolate roughly how big a craft three granite balls the size of Buicks would be used to power,and the size of the neutral dimensional field it would produce would be.

If we contain a ship made of granite the size of Staten island in a properly matched or sized neutral dimensional bubble or field we could use it as a craft as easily as if it were made out of balsa wood and bubble gum--the granites mass would not make a difference.


we could theoreticlly build a series of super ships and then join their fields into one large neutral dimensional bubble,so we could potentially put up ships that COULD hold millions,built in cells or modules,each with its own neutral dimensional generation capability,maybe holding 250000 people.and based on the possible materials,we could use nuclear powered boreing machines to build a ship useing a part of the Canadian shield if we chose.As long as we built and positioned our neutral dimensional generators in the proper places we could literally fly away in the granite piece regardless of its shape as long as its shape was inside the neutral dimensional bubble we created..I think this was Mr.Hamels plan,and now that I think of it I am sure now that the DUMBS may be just this,areas where large granite deposits are being built into massive craft,being built from the inside out ,and the generators are being installed from the interior.



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