Our Government Is Planning to Stay at War for the Next 80 Years -- Anyone Got a Problem with That?, page
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Topic started on 3-4-2010 @ 04:22 AM by Mdv2

Our Government Is Planning to Stay at War for the Next 80 Years -- Anyone Got a Problem with That?


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Without public debate and without congressional hearings, a segment of the Pentagon and fellow travelers have embraced a doctrine known as the Long War, which projects an "arc of instability" caused by insurgent groups from Europe to South Asia that will last between 50 and 80 years. According to one of its architects, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are just "small wars in the midst of a big one."
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reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 04:22 AM by Mdv2
Consider the audacity of such an idea. An 80-year undeclared war would entangle 20 future presidential terms stretching far into the future of voters not yet born. The American death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan now approaches 5,000, with the number of wounded a multiple many times greater. Including the American dead from 9/11, that's 8,000 dead so far in the first decade of the Long War. And if the American armed forces are stretched thin today, try to conceive of seven more decades of combat.


Three things that crossed my mind:

-If Iraq is just a small war (of $3 trillion) and taking into account the current huge deficit, how could the West and in particular the US ever fund such a long war?

-If Iraq is just a small war that has already taken the lives of approximately 5,000 coalition troops, how could we possibly sustain a war that would last 80 years? With two ''small'' wars only, the US is highly dependent on its allies while its military is already spread very thin. To me it seems conscription would be highly required for this to be possible.

-The fact that the US has established a significant number of permanent bases in Iraq and perhaps in Afghanistan as well could very well be part of the preparation for this war.

Taking a look at the map of Asia, it is obvious that American influence in the region is being expanded. Those countries of any significance that oppose Americanism, are dealt with (Iraq, Afghanistan and in the future perhaps Pakistan and Iran).

To me it seems that China is getting surrounded by pro-American (puppet) regimes. Does it make sense to assume that the strategy that is being realized is aimed at China?






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reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 08:14 AM by Jakes51
Warfare that would last 80 years or more, or a "Long War," as some have called this War on Terror? It is no surprise to me whatsoever that this idea has been in works since after 9-11. Here is former Presidential candidate, John McCain, in 2008 hinting at the "Long War."



They have to get that war economy going and the TPTB are looking for any way to do such. Iran may be just what the politicians and their puppet masters have in mind? Iran is only a matter of time, and with the recent news of that high level Iranian nuclear scientist defecting with I am sure oodles of information that the US government wants to hear, allegations of Iranian funding and arming of the Taliban, meddling in Iraq and assisting the insurgency during US combat operations, and other "so called,' smoking guns to validate an American war with Iran. It is almost the zero hour in that regard, and the cat is definitely out of the bag.

At one time when I was still wearing the blinders and in the dark if you will, I used to think the US was your regular run-of-the-mill economies. Making widgets and what not for sale and distribution, both here and abroad. However, I have come to the conclusion that the American economy after World War II has become nothing more than a constant war economy. The video below sums it up quite well, although it was made during George W. Bush's Presidency; there is really no difference between the current administration and the last.



War has got to be going on at all times, and if it is not, the spooks are sent in to destabilize the region to bring about conflict. Therefore, arms are sold to US supporters, or direct US involvement is established. As the Russian saying goes, "There is good fishing in troubled waters." Maybe that is the mindset behind this prolonged war? These revelations should be no surprise to anyone? America is on the verge of decline, and I think those in power know that.

As a result of that simple truth, they are making inroads to secure whatever they can at present, to counter the growing influence of China, and the re-emergence of Russia. There appears to be an encirclement strategy in place around the two large countries. One needs to look no further than the US involvement with Georgia and other activities in the Caucus, establishing good relations with countries of Eastern Europe and former Soviet satellites, that huge Army base established in Kosovo, then, US forces in Afghanistan and other nations in Central Europe to a lesser degree. The previous list shows that apparently a military encirclement strategy is in place against Russian influence.

Then with China, one needs to look no further than bases all over the Pacific with some in Japan, South Korea, military presence in the Philippines to assist in their war on terror with insurgents, Abu Sayaf, and US presence to China's west with a presence in Central Asia. So, a US encirclement of the two powers is in affect at the moment, and the evidence speaks for itself. Now, for the question in the your title, "Do I have a problem with that?" Does it really matter what anyone thinks anymore? Apparently, with the recent activities by our legislature and President, they know what is good for us and our input means nothing. That seems to be the fact of the matter at hand.


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reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 08:18 AM by MikeboydUS
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It could be China or it could be Russia.

Eventually a boiling point is going to be reached. We as a species can't make it past a century without a global conflict.

The planners at the DOD and the National Command Authority know this. We are planning ahead for World War III.

I give it about 10 to 19 years before III kicks off. When it does we should be in a position to quickly end it.

As for personnel, there are these things called Machines.

The MAARS, Modular Advanced Armed Robotic System


The Big Dog, robotic pack mule.


The Crusher, autonomous ground vehicle


The MQ-8 Fire Scout


The MQ-9 Reaper


The X-47 Pegasus


and my favorite terminator impersonator, Petman!


Petman when completed with arms and a head by the end of the year, will be able to wear uniforms and gear. The initial use of them is as "crash dummies" for chemical and radiological testing. Eventually they will be armed and armored.

Completed petman concept:


Keep in mind these are just the declassified systems. Anything behind closed doors is years beyond these.

Its expected that 1/3 of the US armed forces will be robots in 10-15 years.

As for money and finance. That system is going to collapse and we'll just make a new one. Yay for fiat digital currency.

Welcome to the Future!



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