reply to post by SLAYER69
I too have noticed a decline in long well written posts or civilized debates.
When I first joined the site years ago it was common to have long well written posts and civilized debates.
Even in 2007 it was still fine. In 2008, I began to notice a shift. There were many new posters, most didn't spend time on making avatars and only
made quick quips. Bad english began to appear in many of these quick quips. Hostility also flared up more often, with insults flying especially over
specific subjects. At the time I still noticed some good posts and debates though.
In 2009, things soured even further. More juvenile posts, more posters without avatars, and less civilized debate. Even some of the posters who had
made good long posts in the past began to lose decorum. They still had well written posts, but attempts at debate worsened. Insults and angry hate
filled speech became far more common. The mods have done a great job at trying to stop it, but this new culture is relentless.
So far this year, its been like 2009.
Some of it I blame on txt messaging. At college we have seen the same effect from the use of cell phones. Think about the fact that a number of
posters now post from their phones. They simply don't have time or patience to type well thought out posts or respond in a manner that is civilized.
Some of it is 4chan. Some of those guys were lured by the wacky antics and writings on here. These are the kind of people to troll and quickly get
One other factor is politics. Since 2008, angry political posts really went through the roof. In 2009 it was even worse. In 2010, there are now many
openly militant posters ready to start the Second French Revolution.
I still participate and keep posting for a number of reasons.
1. ATS is still faster at most news than television media. The news media, CNN, Fox, and MSNBC, have really gotten worse in the past few years. So ATS
is a decent alternative.
2. There is nowhere else for me to go. Some of the other sites like ATS are openly Anti American, Anti US military or Judeophobic. ATS still has many
true patriots, military personnel, and Jews that participate in the forums.
3. ATS still has some really great posters and great moderators.
This really is still one of the greatest sites on the world wide web, even if quality has declined some. I just hope after the November US
congressional elections that some people calm down. ATS when I found it in 2004 was a site full of UFO conspiracies, Forteanism and tons of paranormal
Simply, I want more Charles Fort and less Glenn Beck.
I can remember a time that Rense was like that. I had found it in high school back in the late 90s, when it was still called sightings. It had
relation to the Sci Fi channel show "Sightings" at the time. I always went there for alternative news and Fortean stories. The Sci Fi channel show
went off the air in 1997 and sightings was renamed Rense in 2000.
Then Rense shifted into Judeophobia and insanity after 9-11. I eventually stopped visiting the site.
I don't want ATS to turn into Rense.
[edit on 3/4/10 by MikeboydUS]