Probably because we are getting close to no turning back. I think a lot of people are getting info they simply can't handle and chose to look away
from. Denial is in the eye of the beholder, for some it is a way to carry out their lives without stress and live happy...Others want to prepare and
fight back. I would think it would decline like this up to a certain point when the masses awake. During the big awakening coming up soon I am sure
this site will be one of the most flooded around. Another thing that could be happening is people are becoming immune to certain threats and scares
that they normally would have searched for info about. Take the wars for example...um would anybody really even be surprised at this point if WW3
Seriously, it's Easter weekend, a lot of ATS'ers are probably traveling.
As for anything else, I have been on ATS since 2005 and I've only seen the IQ go down, long time members leave, for various reasons.
Although I have seen some stellar new members as well.
Post contribution seriously goes downhill from time to time.
I've noticed a disturbing pattern where people would rather go the kick in the balls route, with calling someone an Agent Provocateur, or Government
Agent, then actually have a serious discussion and or debate.
Those are the low-brow idiots, who cannot stand to lose, and would rather take the chicken route out, and cheat, instead of show morals and or
Because if they showed morals or character, they would say they might be wrong.
Instead of calling someone an Agent Provocateur and or Government shill.
Personally, I know I contribute, and I help out other people, when I can.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
LOL... no ego here but.
Am I the only one to notice the drop off?
Should I become even more controversial or relax and let the opposition build? say in the mid east boards?
[edit on 3-4-2010 by SLAYER69]
I haven't looked today, but the members list always seems pretty voluminous. Call me a kook, but I go there to see my avatar-name/user name in the
list often enough.
It's not that I like controversy. I like how exposing facts is controversial to the name-callers, who don't bother to read the writing on the wall.
I've always said; A puzzle is only a puzzle until all the pieces fit.
It's also funny queer to debate (play chess) with someone or group thinking they're right (playing checkers).
Originally posted by Faiol
did people really created another website? do you have an address to see how the system works?
the reality is that this site needs to improve a lot with some anti-troll system and other things, it is really PAINFUL to read threads totality
dis-dated looking like a new subject
a lot of double threads, triple ... that could be solved very easily by adding a system to make a search while someone creates the thread so we
wouldnt have these problems
anti flag system is very needed, anti troll system ...
Yes some rogue members did, but we won't speak of their site, because they plagued pages upon pages on ats advertising it, and breaking all the
And from last I check they got the site they wanted, where everyone agreed, and there was no conflict at all.
The mods here work very hard to try and make ATS better, but the things that fall threw the cracks are usually hard to get out, the ignore button is
suggested, and just brushing over you internet shoulder, ATS hasn't gone downhill, it's still good. You just got to sift, don't be lazy now!
At one time in the past there was a period of a lot of exceptionally funny, talented, insightful people that lead a vanguard of quality threads that I
couldn't wait to log on to see what they had written and the responses. Some of them were very Right wing but nice people and bright with a sense of
humor. The current group is mean. I also see partisanship being exhibited by a lot of conservative mods but I can accept that. I'm not near as
intimidated as I once was.
I don't see the same enthusiasm. Now I read the news first and if I see something that I find interesting, I might start a thread; if not I head
over to facebook or youtube and listen to music and actually get a little work done in the studio instead of being glued to ATS. The creative energy
has gone with a lot of banned and bored members.
I choose very carefully what forums I post in.
There are certain subjects that are very important to me
and I've been focusing my energies there. I have not noticed
a drop in traffic to ATS. There actually seems to be
more traffic lately.
You've struck a nerve with this thread by the looks of it.
One problem is with increased popularity, like the MSM, the whole thing tends to get dumbed down, sensationalism runs rampant, and actual real
contemplation gets lost to hollering and swaggering.
While ATS was once a secret and relatively quiet place to hang out for people who like to think outside of the box, it's no longer secret (let alone
above top secret) and every scoundrel with an agenda but no brain is free to rant and rave.
I hope something comes of this thread. It would be nice to have this place back to its old self; but I am afraid its been trashed pretty thoroughly,
and the perpetrators look like they intend to stay for awhile yet.
The content being discussed, in general terms here, is watered downed, too subjective, of little interest to 'worthy' (myself NOT included)
contributors, and down-right boring...
The threads thrown up in the aliens/ufo forums are a joke...I in no way contribute to the integrity of those forums, but that doesn't mean I don't
recognize a 'lack' of content within.
The other forums seem to be a haven for personal agendas, but that's cool - most of them are easy targets as well as personal therapy.
Members with something of worth are quite common on this site - members with a talent for understanding the collective mentality of ATS
members and capatilzing on that moment are far and few between...
ATS still attracts the cream of the crop, but the days of attention grabbing controversy seem to have disappeared.
It may have something to do with the T & C's, but hey...
I myself have been almost non-existent on ATS, until the last week or so, when I made a conscious decision to come and test the water.
It was your message in part that galavanised my decision.
I feel that ATS has become quite polarised compared to previous standards. Maybe my memory is selective, but I remember the old ATS as being quite
non-political. Of course the government conspiracies were always there, but there seemed to be a more bipartisan-type support for thoughtful
discussion and courtesy and respect seemed to be the norm - not the exception.
I guess last year I started to see ATS developing a worrying case of political overload, combined with some splinter groups (the Truthers come to
mind), that seemed to be melding the current political status with their own cause - and not in a good way.
To me, there seemed to a void appearing regarding bread and butter topics of the ATS of old: saucers, ghosts, black projects, etc, appeared to be
sidelined, and in their place we saw the rise of 'Prophets of Economic and Political Doom". FEMA camps, Economic Armageddon, and general Societal
meltdown seemed to be at the fore.
After taking so much, I pulled the pin, and took a breather.
Perhaps the numbers are actually still there, but the people and their motives/interests have changed.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Boss, the traffic may be up But the guiltily of responses seems to be down can we duscssus this amongst our selves?
Sure but... this is something I've never quite understood very well.
If you (and others) are feeling the threads are lacking of late... why not work on some good threads, instead of thread about the lack of good
Also... there's a well-documented phenomena (we have at least three or four threads on the subject somewhere in here) about forum fatigue that has
something to do with what you think you're seeing. The short version is something like:
(1) When you first encountered ATS, you were floored at all the content.
(2) You joined with excitement.
(3) You devoured threads and marveled at some of the topics and replies.
(4) You jumped in, excited to be a part of it.
(5) Over time, you've come to be very familiar with the topics.
(6) Over more time, you're seeing fewer "new" topics (because you've nearly seen it all)
(7) You post less because you're not seeing as much new information as when you first joined (when it was all new)
(8) You make a thread on how there's not so many good new threads any more, rather than make a good thread.
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