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Florida Physician Won't Treat Those Who Voted For Obama - WOW

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posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Fla. doc's sign warns off Obama supporters





MOUNT DORA, Fla. - A central Florida urologist has posted a sign on his office door warning supporters of President Barack Obama to find a different doctor. The notice on Dr. Jack Cassell's Mount Dora practice says, "If you voted for Obama, seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."
Cassell, 56, also provides Republican reading material in the waiting room — probably not a risky move, given that Mount Dora's 10,000 residents and the surrounding area lean heavily conservative. Above a stack of GOP health care literature, a sign reads: "This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care. Take one, read it and vote out anyone who voted for it."






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posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:34 PM
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Wow, seems pretty extreme of the physician to do such a thing, I mean I know it's within his rights, but borders right on being unethical.

Even I would not do such a thing to a Republican, you can leave that at the door when you enter your workplace. Even if McCain were knocking at my door and needed assistance (if I were a physician) I would not think twice about treating him. That's very unethical in my opinion, just on someone's poltical view. He's exploiting the fact that "political opinion" wasn't added to the Bill Of Rights along with race, religion and such.


Sickens me people would go to such lengths, looks like this guy is a sore loser.


Nothing short of pathetic I say.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Something to consider......he has every right to do this. The government has come along and stuck its hand in his pocket, why support those that supported that? In the end, it's his choice, and he'll live with the decision, good or bad. I applaude him for making a stand.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:47 PM
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So if I went to his door and told him I voted for Obama and he turned me away but I needed desperate help, he has all the right to do so and is right in doing so?
The very resonance of making a Democratic voter feel uncomfortable in him choosing or disliking serving those who voted for Obama is incredibly immature and sickening.

What about if I were a doctor and decided to just stop helping those sick just because Bush won the election in 2004?

That's basically the case, as he doesn't want to serve THOSE WHO VOTED for Obama, not those who passed the HCR Bill.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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Well if you think about it, it is very immature. But on the other hand if he hates dems that much then he may feel like he can't live up to his hypocratic oath and thinks he may flip out or something, or be sued by those that found out he was a republican. I see it as extremely stupid but at the same time I can understand it.

[edit on 2-4-2010 by ventian]



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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First issue..he said in the article he would still treat them, he was making a point. Secondly......yup I can see it, he said he was going to do this, and yet people still voted for him. If you voted for him, you are culpable, he said he was going to do this as well as a lot of other things coming in the near future we're not going to like either.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Wow, and I would run like the wind. The feeling would be entirely mutual. I wouldn't want anyone like that laying a hand on me.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 10:42 PM
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Here is the Hippocratic oath for everyone to read:




I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement: To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art. I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone. I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion. But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts. I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art. In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves. All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal. If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.





I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.



Never do harm. NOT treating someone because of their political beliefs can cause harm.



But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.


How is giving people the business like this preserving the purity of his life and arts?




All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.


Sending people out the door because of their political beliefs I believe violates this part, too.



If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.


Sounds like someone aint.


[edit on 2-4-2010 by wylekat]

[edit on 2-4-2010 by wylekat]



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:13 PM
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First, the title of this thread isn't accurate. The doctor doesn't say he WON'T treat people who voted for Obama. He suggests they get medical care elsewhere.

I for one totally agree with him. I oppose virtually everything that Obama has done and I try not to support anyone who supports him. I have been doing some work on my house and I ask the contractors I am interviewing for jobs who they voted for. If they say Obama, I thank them for their time and tell them I won't be needing their services. I see no reason to support people who voted to raise my taxes and change my country in ways I don't agree with.

Call that childish if you like but it is my choice.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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It's beyond childish. It is everything one hopes never to become.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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Thread put up earlier today on this topic..

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
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It's beyond childish. It is everything one hopes never to become.


Really? So would you spend your money in support of a business belonging to a known sex offender or other criminal? I doubt it.



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Koolcdj69
Eh. Never mind.
Sorry.


[edit on (4/2/1010 by loveguy]



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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Cassell told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday he wasn't questioning patients or refusing care, because that would be unethical. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it," he said.


he'll still help you even if you do support Obama, sounds like hes just hoping it will turn Obama supporters away.

emphasis is mine.


edited to add: and that's in the 2nd paragraph, talk about selective reading.

so he made it clear he doesn't support the health care bill, hes not actually refusing care to anyone, god forbid someone in the health care profession make there views on the subject known




[edit on 4/3/2010 by Alaskan Man]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 07:25 AM
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Excuse me. Surely you are not comparing political preferences and ideologies to sex offenders? Please rethink this notion, and try to rationally sort out what you are thinking, because this is not rational.

This hatred has grown far past where we should have drawn the line. People aren't even thinking with their heads anymore, but only their egos and the ever present need-to-be-right.

There was a time when one went privately into a voting booth to quietly give support to a particular person who represented what they endorsed, and what they hoped to see for the future.

From there to here ..... blatant and willful discrimination against another human being due to their political beliefs. Whether a poor person or even a middle class person should or should not have health insurance. Isn't that what it's really about? And from a physician? A person who has vowed to help even the lowly sex offender, refuses to help someone because of who they voted for? Because of some political bill they may or may not support? Do you not see how shallow this is? How neurotic? That the physician needs to heal himself? He's gone too far.

Time to retire, Doc. He's lost his mission.

....And you don't see anything wrong with that? How obsessive and judgmental we have become. How full of hatred, and putting oneself up as being infallible and above and beyond reproach, while holding those who disagree in complete disdain, and treating them as though they are less than human.

Yes, I see a problem with this, I see a big problem with this. This is the type of narrow minded bigoted thinking that could eventually take this country down.

Not the government as you think, but the citizens themselves will create their very own ruin from this type behavior. You are becoming what you fear, and what you are running from.

I have turned this into a bit of a rant, and not all this is directed towards you.

But if things continue in this vein we are all going to have to take a step back and look at what we are doing.....There is plenty room here for a national collective hysteria to develop which could literally turn citizens against one another until the country does break down. And we begin to see this genesis of formation with the militant tea parties, and militias created to destroy their own country. This is no way to effect change.
Surely you must see that. Civil war over a health care proposal? Is this true intelligent thought or the acts of hysterical persons ?

Is this bill worth that happening? I can't control what that doctor does. But I can retain enough objectivity (unlike him) that I can see when my actions are hurting not only individuals, but the country as a whole.

I don't want to be that person.









[edit on 4/3/2010 by ladyinwaiting]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 07:29 AM
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and...the government has also come along and stuck their hand in my pocket, just to provide the money many of his patients need to pay him for their treatment!!
I actually went through the trouble of finding this guys address. I want to send him a letter.....
LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO PAY THEIR TAXES SO YOUR PATIENTS CAN PAY YOU! DON'T LOOK HERE!!!



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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by itguysrule
First, the title of this thread isn't accurate. The doctor doesn't say he WON'T treat people who voted for Obama. He suggests they get medical care elsewhere.

I for one totally agree with him. I oppose virtually everything that Obama has done and I try not to support anyone who supports him. I have been doing some work on my house and I ask the contractors I am interviewing for jobs who they voted for. If they say Obama, I thank them for their time and tell them I won't be needing their services. I see no reason to support people who voted to raise my taxes and change my country in ways I don't agree with.

Call that childish if you like but it is my choice.


Then thank God you are not a doctor and no lives are in your hands. And by the way, the parallel you tried to draw between your situation and what this doctor is doing is completely wrong. You pay contractors, they don't pay you, and no one's life or health is on the line.

What if he treated someone, then found out they supported Obama? There is a part of me that thinks this doctor might have to make a decision on doing what's right for the patient, or supporting his own ideological belief. If such a person even has to consider that decision, they should be in no position near safeguarding human health.

[edit on 3-4-2010 by Avenginggecko]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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As already pointed out by a couple of sharp eyed readers, the title and therefore the subject of this thread is totally false. Looks like the OP made it up to attract socialist fear mongerers (SFMs), like a moth to a flame, and it looks like it worked as planned. The SFMs are even ignoring the real facts because it doesn't back their fear mongering agenda. This is truly an interesting behavioral thread.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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Did you see the photograph of the picture on the doctor's office door which reads:

"If you voted for OBama seek urologic care elsewhere".

Now, are you saying the picture is a fake, the OP faked the article, the person who wrote the article is a fake, or who exactly are you accusing of fakery?

What is interesting about this behaviorally, is that the ones who take your position are "sharp eyed" readers, lol, while the ones who find this doctor's action offensive are "fear mongers".

Yes, it's a lesson in seeing what you want to see.

Please clarify and provide the evidence you seem to have that this is faked.

Does the photograph on the doctor's door say:

If you voted for OBama seek urologic care elsewhere

Or not? If it does, wth do you think it means? Because it sure as hades seems self-explanatory to me.

Thanks.



[edit on 4/3/2010 by ladyinwaiting]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Alaskan Man

Cassell told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday he wasn't questioning patients or refusing care, because that would be unethical. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it," he said.


he'll still help you even if you do support Obama, sounds like hes just hoping it will turn Obama supporters away.

emphasis is mine.


edited to add: and that's in the 2nd paragraph, talk about selective reading.

so he made it clear he doesn't support the health care bill, hes not actually refusing care to anyone, god forbid someone in the health care profession make there views on the subject known



[edit on 4/3/2010 by Alaskan Man]



Even the mere fact that he is making the people who voted for Obama uncomfortable by doing such a thing is extremely unethical and childish.
I know he's still willing to treat them, but he is still making them uncomfortable in hopes they won't go to him if they voted in Obama.


People voted in Bush, are they at fault for the Iraq War and such?
No, they voted who best fit their political choice, they have no real direct control over what Bush chose to do. They're not at blame.



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