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No Plane Hit The World Trade Center On 9/11

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posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions."

I am not saying that there were no planes definitively, I surely do not know. I am just trying to research everything. Most of the consumer technological advances have been a result of military, weaponry research.
50 years ago, the internet, cloning, etc. were science fiction. People ridiculed those that contemplated the advances of the future.

It seems that technology is advancing so quickly( Moore's Law of exponential rates ), we can barely keep up with it, as a consumer or a technician. So who can say what top secret technology exists?

If the corporate owned politicians in the 70's, allowed our sons to sacrifice their lives in Viet Nam, The Gulf War, etc, including innocent people, why would they hesitate to sacrifice the people of 9/11?




posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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Hey, let's be serious, just for a minute and pretend that we aren't arguing like champs on the internet. Take into consideration that this is like trying to figure out how a [black] magician pulled off a rather sickening trick. The world is not truly as we see it, and much information has been hidden from us, not to mention the PTB's full power potential, and where they draw their power from.


It's weird, wide world, kids.



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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this whole concept is an insult to all of us who were directly effected and STANDING right there.!!!!!!!!!!

to many people are relying on fantasy BS and denying the fact that i saw a f...ing plane.??????????????????????????

o wait two planes holy Sh.....t!!!!!!!!

what made the sound bottle rockets / giant speakers ?
so many saw it comin thru manhattan but you children are even entertaining this ???

o i need names and bs statistics an blah blah blah this is so obvious and to beleive there was no plane or whatever the intention here is so insulting and ignorant that I couldnt ignore the thread.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the plane crashed into the building you ridiculous doe dows, and watch here comes the rederick o well wheres my evidence.
really??
really??
seriously?
o this is ats and your having a scientfic discussion ?
REALLY??
Seriosly?

I know that all of you who beleive this bull crap have alternative motives you hate your government you have psychological issues ..

heres my question to all you truthers..........

find a fire fighter or well any new yorker that was standing right there and purpose this BS theory and see how long it takes them to punch you in the face then maybe you will GET IT.

NO PLANE ???? i should tell my freinds mother she a victims advocate always on the news CNN and the other major network COX and maybe her tears on camera will help you ignorant idiots.....................

disgusting behavior...



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Please, what cheap grass is the OP smoking here??

Thousands of people on the streets and in buildings all around Manhattan witnessed those planes coming in and hitting. They're all liars too huh?

Disinformation like this only makes humans in general look unintelligent. To the families of those hurt or killed that day, they deserve better than being called liars.

[edit on 8/16/2010 by MadDogtheHunter]



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 11:47 AM
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you are the only sane person here finally someone who isnt totally dillusional !!



i meant what did i hear a record playing over the best speakers ever did i see some super high tech hologram

yeaaah that makes more sense then the actual truth it was a plane no wait two lanes holy molely these people who say truthers are the biggest BS liars and so childishly ignorant with there ufo s did it and thermite i doubt most even know how any products have ehhh no point theyll never see clearly they have paranoia or anger towards the government because that makes more sense ......holograms for real? this isnt buck rodgers or star trek there is no hollodeck captain KIRK!!!


stay awake my freind.......




posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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and just cause i think you truthers are full of ignorant BS !!!

doesnt mean i support or side with the government !!

enjoy your science fiction !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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yeah the power that be is issss are in cahoots with david copperfield to give psuedo conspiracy theorist water cooler talk .


god i miss the days of UFO s that got me here at ats this BS hologram fake plane thermite demoltion crapola is starting to truly ruin this forum!!!!

i



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Really? I'm going to tell congress. Surely, now that you've made this breakthrough discover, they'll pull the troops out.



posted on Aug, 16 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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lol right on man its almost like five year olds waiting for santa clause!!!

lol they are telling each other howits possible to deliver all his gifts how the sled flys and how the reindeer are a pivotal point in the operation



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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All of the videos from eye witnesses that were, "used" could have been pre fabricated. All of the witnesses who called in could have been pre-planned and given scripts. It is possible that faked plane's were only used to hide the initial explosion that weakened the buildings structure enough for it to come down after the thermite did its job of cutting other lesser beams.
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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Debries have been found although in case with the pentagon, the size of the Turbine recovered was more on the scale of a predator drone. This is just one more point that people who believe in the official tale are going to use to dismiss the whole thing and are going to argue, if there were no Holograms then wtc7 collapsed into its own footprint due to office fires.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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This is dumb.. you realize that? Why would she have to hear the plane? She's in new york, lots of noise she probably wouldn't notice the sound of a plane. She didn't see a plane because she didn't look up until there was an explosion. As for them coming in at different angles, I bet you can show one example of that with vids.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Cassius666
Debries have been found although in case with the pentagon, the size of the Turbine recovered was more on the scale of a predator drone. This is just one more point that people who believe in the official tale are going to use to dismiss the whole thing and are going to argue, if there were no Holograms then wtc7 collapsed into its own footprint due to office fires.


No it wasn't. Here is an analysis by an aerospace engineer :-

www.aerospaceweb.org...



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Cassius666
Debries have been found although in case with the pentagon, the size of the Turbine recovered was more on the scale of a predator drone. This is just one more point that people who believe in the official tale are going to use to dismiss the whole thing and are going to argue, if there were no Holograms then wtc7 collapsed into its own footprint due to office fires.


You might want to do some better research on the subject of jet engines. The turbine hub that was found is much too large for a Predator. It, however, appears to be just the right size to be part of a RB-211 jet engine (you know, the type of engine that is on a Boeing 757)
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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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(you know, the type of engine that is on a Boeing 757)


Specifically, on the B-757s that American Airlines operates. Some airlines (operators) opt for the Pratt & Whitney engines (United, for example).

It is important to note (and possibly a source of confusion??) that American Airlines acquired TWA and its assets in 2001.(April). When TWA bought/(leased) their Boeing 757s, they came equipped with the PW 2037 engines.

Operating a mixed engine fleet like that is complicated, for pilot and mechanic training and currency (recency of experience) reasons. Also, in maintenance issues, the cost of maintaining parts inventories for two different engine models.

So, eventually AAL got rid of those old ex-TWA jets, getting out of the leases, sub-leasing, etc. (The business down-turn post-9/11 made it even more imperative)....

Point of all this is: The airplane that was American 77 on 9/11 was an original AAL acquisition, with the Rolls Royce engines. Just to clear up any misconceptions that may pop up.

American Airlines fleet matrix

Airplanes that went to other Operators

American Airlines B-757s written off

Note, please ways to identify the sub-"species" of a particular model airliner. The -XXX suffix, after the "Boeing 757". Those are how Boeing keeps track of specific configurations, as order by option, by their customers.

Also, note the "N" numbers...another clue. Anyone owner/operator may request "personalized" N-numbers, and whenever possible some companies reserve blocks of them, in a certain format that they chose. Hence, many of the ex-TWA airplanes N-numbers end in "TW", and American's in "AA"...etc.



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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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Even at 7 am it is likely a private camera is pointed at the towers. Plane or no plane is of no relevance at this point. Every expert who has not been bought off sustains that the scenario of all support structures to fail simultaneously on both towers and more suspiciously, the wtc, for the buildings to collapse in the fashion of a controlled demoliation, due to fire, is of such a low likelyhood, that it can not be taken into consideration as something that happened on that day.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Was a web cam in Brooklyn by an German artist named Wolfgang Staehle focused on WTC which took
pictures every few seconds. Caught the approach of AA11 into North Tower. This was in addition to Naudet video and several others.


Wolfgang Staehle is an early pioneer of net.art in the United States, known for his video streaming of the collapse of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.



posted on Nov, 14 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Well, it would take a whole lot of poof an explanation for me to ever believe the NPT, but i must admit, i'm sure the technology exists to pull this off. Even for the people who wittnessed it. All they can really say is that they saw something that looked and sounded like a plane that hit the towers. There are a couple of things that make me think when it comes to this.

- If you look at the impact holes of WTC 1 & 2 they're almost exactly the same as if they were copy pasted. The tilt of the wings is nearly identical with the right wing up and left wing down. Now, what are the odds that both planes would hit with the same wing tilt. They also impact at almost the same spot horizontally with one of the wings coming close to the east side of both buildings and flames beings shot out of both sides of the east side of each building. Then you have the case for the missing black boxes for both planes that hit WTC 1 & 2.

- Also, i watched that video on the "Mysterious Ball" and he made some intresting observations. One, was the object that hit the south tower was traveling about 22O miles per hour based on his 3D analysis. Now, before i even seen this video, i tried to calculate the speed of the airplane from one of the videos of the South Tower impact while watching "September Clues" because the plane just didn't appear to be traveling fast enough. I came up with 440 mph, atleast a 100 mph slower than what the official speed was said to be. I even emailed this guy about this and he replied that he thought some of the videos shown on TV may have been doubled in speed which was exactly what i came up with.

Like i said, it's just hard for me to ever believe the NPT, but there has been enough written and shown to peak my intrest and to really take a closer look.



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posted on Nov, 14 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by triplescorpio
this whole concept is an insult to all of us who were directly effected and STANDING right there.!!!!!!!!!!

to many people are relying on fantasy BS and denying the fact that i saw a f...ing plane.??????????????????????????

o wait two planes holy Sh.....t!!!!!!!!

what made the sound bottle rockets / giant speakers ?
so many saw it comin thru manhattan but you children are even entertaining this ???

o i need names and bs statistics an blah blah blah this is so obvious and to beleive there was no plane or whatever the intention here is so insulting and ignorant that I couldnt ignore the thread.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the plane crashed into the building you ridiculous doe dows, and watch here comes the rederick o well wheres my evidence.
really??
really??
seriously?
o this is ats and your having a scientfic discussion ?
REALLY??
Seriosly?

I know that all of you who beleive this bull crap have alternative motives you hate your government you have psychological issues ..

heres my question to all you truthers..........

find a fire fighter or well any new yorker that was standing right there and purpose this BS theory and see how long it takes them to punch you in the face then maybe you will GET IT.

NO PLANE ???? i should tell my freinds mother she a victims advocate always on the news CNN and the other major network COX and maybe her tears on camera will help you ignorant idiots.....................

disgusting behavior...



thank you. new yorker who watched it from his corner. had friends and family working downtown. all saw what happened. this is so insulting to us, you have no idea...



posted on Nov, 14 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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NO, you are mistaken as to many things, to include the angle of bank of each airplane on impact, and the specific alignment with the Tower facades....


WTC 1 & 2 they're almost exactly the same as if they were copy pasted. The tilt of the wings is nearly identical with the right wing up and left wing down. Now, what are the odds that both planes would hit with the same wing tilt. They also impact at almost the same spot horizontally with one of the wings coming close to the east side of both buildings and flames beings shot out of both sides of the east side of each building.


United 175 had a much steeper bank angle than American 11. Look again.


Then you have the case for the missing black boxes for both planes that hit WTC 1 & 2.


The Flight Recorders (a DFDR and CVR, each Tower) would have come to rest somewhere within the inferno, somewhere inside the buildings, as all the airplane debris that remained inside came to rest.

THEN, the buldings collapsed. Do you realy expect to find the Recorders, then? After all that mass and mess fell in upon them??






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