Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
I'm sure it will be pretty tough finding you in error.
Translation is one thing. Peoples understanding of what is translated is
another horse to consider.
First things first: My errors are quite a few, even quite many. If you'd do a search for my earlier posts up through the years, you'd find enough to
grant me eternal hellfire. But unlike many others I have a genuine desire to really understand, beyond what traditional theology and justice presents.
I want the undeniable truth or atleast what can be called common sense. Not some compromise priests and scribes have come to during the last few
As for your second sentient here. Indeed. Everything in life, even such simple things as understanding what is right and wrong, what is good and what
is evil, will have subjective understandigs to them, just about everyone living here (and also everyone who are now dead). That's why we have
concepts such as common law and justice. Things we have agreed upon.
However. God's Law doesn't need such human concepts to be understood. When I talk about God's Law, I am not really refering to the Torah, for even
that is subjective, a collection of laws Mosjeh presented before God and which they agreed upon, resting on thousands of years of traditional
religious and juridical practice. Stuff that had proven to be sensible and functional for the communities from where it grew out. It seemed to reflect
Still noone until this day (Jesjuah included) whom we know about has been able to live (normal lives) in perfect and complete accordance to the Torah.
We are all sinners according to the letter of that Law. That's why they had concepts such as Rosh Hasjannah and animal and crops sacrifice. Rituals
made in agreement with God to wash ourselves of sin, be forgiven, thus giving us a way or opportunity to start anew and a possibility to make up for
our sins. The point of the Torah isn't that we should live completely after it, after all we are all human, but we are supposed to always keep it in
mind and TRY. And when we sin, or break the law (since the concept of sin isn't really relevant to the Torah), we must sacrifice, give up something,
pay for our crimes.
Today we use reactions such as fines and isolation, and some states even use more harsh treatments like capital punishment and amputations, physical
torture like public whipping and what not. Things I all find useless and perverted. Had we instead been given the possibility to make up for our
crimes, in agreement between victims and he who had committed the autrocities. Not with pain and isolation, but through work, and giving for no price
from what we are really good at, measured and weighed according to the misconduct or crime committed and ability to repay one way or the other. If we
could rather serve our king if we had delivered a bogus tax report. If we could work for free to help the family we had committed a crime against. If
we could do thngs in return, instead of just being placed in a cell to rot and thus become vengeful and bitter, without ever feeling we or justice had
accomplished anything. Then I believe God would've perhaps cried a tear or two of joy, thinking "that is the good way, the way of my servants. The
way I always taught. The way I always wanted them to live by."
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[edit on 4/4/2010 by Neo Christian Mystic]