reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
Compare that to the story of Noah, who had nine mothers from Eve to his own mothers, and fathered three sons, one being black, and how God placed the
rainbow in the heavens after the Great Flood. It's the exact same story. Which makes me believe that the Norse gods were infact patriarchs of the
Torah, and that the whole Norse religion is infact based on the Bible or the other way around.
I'm starting to see a certain pattern developing. If one were to accept the Norse tradition as most ancient that would explain much. The World Tree
is key here. Greek myths are most closely similar to Norse, being the result of two successive migrations from the north. Almost all stories one for
one, yet Mount Olympus became substitute for World Tree. Similarly, in desert areas Mountains as places of worship of gods became dominant. Flat
desert areas, Mesopotamia, Egypt, man made mountains, tower of Babel, Pyramids.
The Turkic Shamanic traditions stretching from Mongolia to Turkey had the world tree and mountains. Seemingly, the only place in Hebrew scripture the
World Tree re-emerges is in Daniel and in some parables of Jesus, that most likely from Persian influence, importing from Turkic tradition.
As far as hell goes, comparing disposition of the dead is instructive. Burial or entombment implies a belief in a physical re-animation of the actual
dead body at the Day of Resurrection , whereas cremation or leaving the dead in trees to be eaten by carrion birds implies a belief in ascension to
Starting with Abraham, it seems Hebrew traditions quite consciously demean the concept of ascension. Gehenna is 'the dump' for instance, the
Amorites 'don't bury their dead', 'cursed is any one hung on a tree', bodies left for birds of the air, etc.
There is a gulf between concepts, what others consider noble, the Hebrews consider a thing to be ridiculed. Some Christianitys merge concepts of
resurrection and ascension, as in two parts separated at death, held in separate holding cells until rejoined at resurrection.
I guess the point is that the idea of being tossed into Gehenna may seem really bad to some and not such a bad thing to others, at least not as
horrible as what is being implied by those issuing threats of hell at others. Kind of on a par with being ridiculed for being bow-legged, when to the
bow-legged person it is a mark of distinction, as being a great horse backed warrior. What can you say then to the insult but 'thank you'.
[edit on 3-4-2010 by pthena]