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Man, all the nut-jobs are coming out of the closet. I hope they TRY to enforce that lame threat. These folks need to be locked up. They probably don't have jobs, and sit around all day feeling persecuted. Thinking of ways to spend the day in hating something/someone. These are the same folks that rant on youtube with their faces covered. Hiding behind masks. Cowards. SHOW YOURSELF! Don't be so afraid. Try going to a poor Country and see just how amazingly well we have it here in the U.S. These people also probably think the NWO is coming.. Think about it, NO government wants to keep tabs on every single person. Its too costly, and tiresome. lol.
quick question what makes these guys think they can run the country better instead of this shouldnt we try to elect better public officals,kick wall street out and try to re-build america?not being a jerk just asking a real question
Originally posted by Boruma
reply to post by illusions
Look up the word rhetorical please.
Originally posted by illusions
Definately! We can't have poeple running around trying to legally defend our freeedom! What a bunch of nut jobs! [edit on 2-4-2010 by illusions]
Originally posted by Ionized
reply to post by Libertygal
I was being somewhat sarcastic in my reply, of course I care, and of course I have looked into the names of those I could find. I have seen the articles about how Sam Kennedy is not that persons real name, and as far as I can tell Tim Turner uses his real name. There are many many people involved in this, and as I already stated I thanked you for bringing to light more information on another person involved.
Edit: You are assuming that I have a certain level of knowledge by saying things like "You have been shown nothing about anyone signing on. You have been told that, and you bought it." How do you know what I have been shown and what I have not? I do understand your point here though, the public only has secondary witness about those who have during the talkshoe broadcasts verbally claimed to sign, those who claim to be state coordinators who gathered the signatures, and those who have claimed to be a signer during the course of these threads. However, FBI investigating the multiple state coordinators and jurors, and the news articles discussing how the declarations contained multiple signatures, does give credence to the fact that they exist and did sign. Or is that also hearsay?
[edit on 3-4-2010 by Ionized]
Originally posted by 12.13.2012
reply to post by SaturnFX
come on man...this is trying to be a serious conversation on the thread. please grow up and make grown up posts..
ON “The Restore America Plan” T.R.A.P
April 1, 2010 – 1:30 pm
Forward of this post by LB Bork
About the TRAP
As many of you may have heard, there have been many who are promoting a military coup through a thing called The Restore America Plan. The main promoter is one Sam Kennedy, and others are Tim Turner and what appears to be a behind the scenes Clive Boustred.
It was discerned long ago that the route these people have taken is, in a word, DUMB.
One should note that the acronym for this instant project is TRAP. The noted people involved have been questionable in my mind for some time now. All these people have been promoting everything under the sun that has been professed in the "patriot movement" the past ten years. Accordingly, both have been driven by kooky patriot theories and high-dollar schemes and seminars. The thing that is extremely odd is they break the norm and support each other, but yet do not work as a unit. There are only two ways to go with this : Operatives or Money.
As it appears, the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center are now having a heyday with this. One could have guessed this to come into play; the question is, how and why did it come into play. One should see that the answers are obvious.
Sam called us in early March to see if we would consider coming "on board" with the Restore America Plan. The letter below was our answer to Sam, and we hope you will read it to have better understanding of our positions. During the preparation time for this Plan, we did not want to present this letter to the patriot community to influence anyone in one way or another. Each has to make his own choice, based upon his personal beliefs. However, since the due date for presentation of this Plan, as announced by Sam, himself, was yesterday, March 29th, and since everything would be resolved by March 31st, again, according to Sam, we now feel it is incumbent upon us to release this letter.
Yesterday evening, we listened on RBN.COM to the John Stadtmiller "Intel Report" over which Sam, Ralph Winterrowd, John, and another fellow named Ron McDonald discussed the Restore America Plan. If these four people are an example of the "leaders" of the patriot community in this nation, then, this nation will never recover.
People should choose their leaders wisely. The leaders who choose themselves and impose their "leadership" upon the People are not the true leaders. Remember Plato’s Republic in which leadership is given to the man who does not seek or want it. Beware of those who covet leadership and claim to represent your best interests.
Boustred, as a former South African soldier, is apparently Kennedy’s connection to “high-ranking members of the armed forces,” who helped him formulate his kooky “Restore America Plan.”
Norton A. Schwartz, a man occupying the office of Chief of Staff, United States Air Force, and all successors thereto
James T. Conway, a man occupying the office of Commandant of the Marine Corps, and all successors thereto
Robert Gates, a man doing business as United States Secretary of Defense, and all successors thereto Jane/John Doe, men and women occupying the offices of the United States armed forces and/or Department of Defense and to
all others to whom these orders must necessarily apply …