ALERT!!!!!!! Provost Marshals serve governors

nothing bad is going to happen because of this.

The letter to the governors was not threatening. Even the FBI said it wasn't but they said they were worried some people might use it to justify violence(reasonable IMO).
Oh, and not everyone who believes in liberty and the constitution is a 'paranoid christain right wing gun-toting extremist'.We talk about the MSM being biased and manipulating public opinion here on ATS all the time. Then we turn around and place labels the media invents on people and we spout govt./media propaganda on what is supposed to be an 'alternative' site?

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs

-1984

reply to post by time91


Well said! I appreciate the fact that you bring the concept of doublethink into this discussion, as it is pertinent to this realm of events. Orwell has given us INCREDIBLE insight into current affairs. we need only to apply these basic logics to clearly understand what the roadsigns say is just ahead.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

No ST, I am an opinionated ass pretty much wherever I go. Last time I checked, I had that right under the 1st Amendment. But I guess I was wrong, and I don't have that right anymore. No problem guys, Ill just stop talking. It's apparent that your side of the issue is the only side of the issue that has the validity of the 1st Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech and any dissenting viewpoints should not be discussed. I understand now.

^^ well, I attempted to communicate to you that your opinion was welcome (minus your stance on what you believe true about other posters), but it seems that you just ignored all that I said so you could continnue to stay off topic and further the meaninglessness that this thread is starting to become. In a simple experiment to examine whether or not your 1st Amendment rights have been trampled, lets take a look at what we've got so far: you stated your opinion, and no legal action or otherwise was launched as a direct result of your application of your 1st Amendment right. Yep, looks like your 1st Amendment rights are still fully intact. Having this as a "proof" of your 1st Amendment rights still being fully intact, I would like to humbly request that you refrain from being butthurt because noone has turned against you. It's merely an example of others also choosing to advocate THEIR 1st Amendment rights. See how beautiful it is? THAT is the true beauty of America!! Now, all we need to do is harness this incredible power (i.e.: return back to what it once was) and we can all enjoy the fruits of this INCREDIBLE nation and all it has to offer.

ATTENTION!!!!


Please discuss the topic and not each other.
Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

I have been watching these threads with a bit of interest but, I have to say, I think someone is playing games with you.

I know what a Provost Marshall is. It's is a Military Police office in charge of the MP's on a military base. Without betraying my location, I will tell you that I live by one of the largest military bases in the nation (in the top 5 actually). We are about a hour north of the capital. Really, someone would have heard about this. The PM can't just leave the base and serve people. He has no jurisdiction outside of the base (well, up to road just outside the gates now for car chases). Nor can he go arrest anyone outside of the base and certainly not anyone who is not a member of the U.S. Military. S/he can go pick up someone from the clink outside the base and escort them back to the base, (often the case with AWOL soldiers) but they cannot legally make an arrest outside of the base.

Someone is obviously putting a lot of time into this. Have you ever stopped to think this is conintelpro? That you are being massively played? I don't now why, but this whole thing makes me really uneasy.

reply to post by DontTreadOnMe


may I ask: which part was too far off track from topic? I think everyone just wished to express their ability to flex their 1st Amendment rights, as to further the magnification of the topic at hand. Please notify me if I should veer to far away, as I would like to further explore this topic, while also recognizing others opinions.

reply to post by Merriman Weir


So what is your remedy? EVERYTHING being done here is lawful and according to the constitution. Are you prideful of the fact that our country is doing the great swirly on it's way to the final flush? What is It with you people, all happy that we have Obama motors federated healthcare and bailouts on top of bailouts that your grandchildrens children will be slaving to pay off. You deserve everything you get. But let me tell you something brother I will NOT pay my unfair share of that bastard bend over and grab your ankles abortion. You can sure as hell put money on that. My children and grandchildren will never foot the bill for your fascist leveling of the playing field. If you can't tell the temperature of the country and the level of disgust, then you foot the bill all of you that are happy with he status quo.

YouSir

reply to post by antonia


This is one of the most intelligent responses I have heard thus far. Sadly, I believe this to be the case. It may be possible that this is the msm and disinfo spin to allow for the swift yet incremental allowance for a "martial law" scenario, as a result of peoples' re-action(s) to this information.

I for one hope this effort achieves some support. Since at the present the effort is peaceful and in accordance to "The Law". While those that are dying to get it on with the US Government are the idiots that don't understand that this kind of action has to have support by law with the US Military and the US Supreme Court.

In this way we are going to see just where the Military and the US Supreme Court stand because if our system of government is truly broken beyond repair, this is how we are going to find out while adhering to current law and is considered peaceful and the final right of any American who wants Sovereignty returned and a strict return to moral and ethical adherence to Constitutional Law.

You see, only when this process is pursued which was developed by the military, will we see whether the US Military JCS and the US Supreme Court are already co-opted beyond repair. Only then, will America truly know that it is time to put up or shut up. This is when will we know just where we stand with those that supposedly represent us and who swore an oath to this nation to protect and defend the Constitution of the USA against all enemies, foreign and "Domestic", even if they are people we know and have come to despise.

Hold on to your hats folks....we could be headed into a vicious storm front with high winds and damaging hail. Time will tell but there are too many issues on the plate for me to think that this issue isn't on the Obama radar, because he already knows and has sent forth his FBI/SS style henchmen to go stir the pot while he fiddles with his phony press releases about something he thinks he's done beneficial for America and his corporate masters while violating the very Constitution he swore to uphold.

Oh well, we will see one way or the other, I am sure of that just. Thanks for the posting.

Hmmmm is hard to know what is true and what is not any more ,its all lies and spin the truth is so far out of grasp i doubt few even know what the truth really is anymore.

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reply to post by 12.13.2012


to further elaborate on this possibility: it may all be just as she said as a massive disinfo umbrella, but the pieces of this puzzle have not been played, therefore we cannot yet fully understand the full picture, because without the missing pieces here, we could not understand what the puzzle is. An example would be: an actual jigsaw puzzle, consisting of mainly one color in the picture on the box. without the picture on the box, we are shooting in the dark as to how the pieces fit, and we have still not been given several pieces. it will remain a mystery until all the pieces are on the table, then we can (in hindsight) compare the "completed" puzzle to what we would assume the box MUST look like. then, Im sure it will make plenty of sense.

What I truly find interesting are reading everyones comments (Non ATS members) about these articles...

Check it out on Yahoo..

news.yahoo.com...

reply to post by berrygurrl


wow, the yahoo crowd actually impressed me this time. Some of those posts were suprisingly intelligent. That leads me to believe that a majority of people were not as asleep as I had believed. GOOD FIND!

reply to post by 12.13.2012


Yeah I do not know what power the provost marshals have beyond their area. If the military was actually going to serve notices and restore the constitution, wouldn't the notices be better served by a 4 star general? I think it is just a group that mailed them in, maybe one of them was a marshal, who knows? Maybe they just claimed that to get some attention.

All of this resistance does seem rather suspect. I don't agree with almost anything that is going on, but where was this resistance when Bush was in office? The patriot act is a CLEAR violation of the constitution. The Iraq war was based on a LIE. But then again, maybe it just took the public a while to realize what was going on, and we're connecting dots that aren't supposed to be connected... just speculation either way.

reply to post by whatukno


Well, yes. First, removal would be a last resort. Before that happens, they will be given the opportunity to sign on and take an oath relative to the Constitution. If they refuse to swear their oath to the Constitution and sign the appropriate declaration, then they are guilty of a criminal act and will be removed. You must remember that many states are Corporations as well.

If you are accused of committing a crime, it only takes 12 people to agree on a conviction, the population of the state doesn't get to vote. This is a citizen's Grand Jury established under appropriate Constitutional authority and capable of handing down indictments.

Originally posted by time91
reply to post by 12.13.2012

 

Yeah I do not know what power the provost marshals have beyond their area.

It's really easy: None at all. They have no authority to arrest or serve anyone outside of a military base of operation.

I have green money that says some Rightwing, M. Savage devotee and follower of this provost marshal BS, will get likkered up, gun up, and kill a Governor or other politician and bring the wrath of God down on us from Law enforcement agencies that we don't even know about. Even harsher restrictions on travel, communication etc. All this adolescent macho swaggering is going to come to a bad end.

It won't be false flag or agent provocateur but some dumb yahoo carried away with his selfish ideology that others votes don't count.


[edit on 2-4-2010 by whaaa]

Originally posted by time91
reply to post by 12.13.2012

 

Yeah I do not know what power the provost marshals have beyond their area. If the military was actually going to serve notices and restore the constitution, wouldn't the notices be better served by a 4 star general? I think it is just a group that mailed them in, maybe one of them was a marshal, who knows? Maybe they just claimed that to get some attention.

All of this resistance does seem rather suspect. I don't agree with almost anything that is going on, but where was this resistance when Bush was in office? The patriot act is a CLEAR violation of the constitution. The Iraq war was based on a LIE. But then again, maybe it just took the public a while to realize what was going on, and we're connecting dots that aren't supposed to be connected... just speculation either way.

^^ yes, I can agree with alot of what you said here^. I also wondered where was this upheaval of resistance when Bush was in office? You are spot-on about the Patriot Act and Patriot Act 2, as well as the war in Iraq. Again, I'll state my belief that this is disinfo, to further tighten the tourniquet of police state control by using this as a means to inflict martial law in this country- just as 9/11 was staged to motivate people to back the war in Iraq. tptb know they cannot kick off martial law if they do not have sufficient public support.

What I dont understand is this movement part of the military? Are these guys actual military people? I need more info on them I am interested but this story seems like it has many holes.



My main question is are these people actual military members?