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Bureau of Meteorology images show mysterious patterns on radar system

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posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Yes, the first threads came out at after they started appearing on the 15th of Jan that I mentioned remembering. Thank you for linking this thread for our reference as well (4th link).




posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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check out the blue iced doughnuts over East - U.S.
April 2 12:43am
radar.weather.gov

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posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Smell The Roses
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Think there is a reason it has gotten a lot of attention on here? I say HAARP did this. Provide another theory please if you think you know what this could be, any ideas at all?


Hi Smell The Roses

Sorry....I've been chanelling Elvis & I'm a bit rusty.

I know exactly what those patterns are.

They're errors that are occuring in the processing & the display of the radar information.

That's all it is.

Kind regards



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:52 PM
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All the years we have had this technology and all of a sudden we have display errors like this? Occurring more commonly as well? I don't know, it may not be HAARP but I don't think it is a radar display malfunction happening all of a sudden...



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Smell The Roses
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


All the years we have had this technology and all of a sudden we have display errors like this? Occurring more commonly as well? I don't know, it may not be HAARP but I don't think it is a radar display malfunction happening all of a sudden...


Hi Smell The Roses

I promise you.....

It's been happening for years & years & years.

I watch the radar all the time (I'm a storm junkie).....my IE boots straight into the Australian BOM national radar display.

It's been going on here & overseas (I watch those too) for years & years & years.

I'll U2U OzWeatherman & see if he can add more technical detail for us.

Kind regards



posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:03 AM
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I wonder if anyone from the QuakeWatch thread has seen this,they're pretty sharp on interpreting things along these lines. I think I'll link this thread over there and ask!



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:32 AM
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Earth shattering anomaly - the timing perhaps? Tropical Cyclone Paul made landfall about a week later on the northern coast

NASA Hurricane Season 2010: Tropical Cyclone Paul (Southern Pacific Ocean)

NASA: Tropical Cyclone Paul

If someone could post an animated gif image of the area over the cyclones Ului and Paul, we could quench our curiosities fully. March 22 was a long time ago in terms of the internet and I don't have access to a paid service, and I'm still looking for a good one.

:-o But I digress... Let's see more radar!

[edit on 3-4-2010 by elusive1]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:53 AM
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Maybe is correct...

Radar anomalies have been occurring since pretty much forever...I have Weatherzone always open on Firefox which includes a mini version of the current melbourne radar which I can click on and expand to full page...

I notice at least half a dozen anomalies a month on average, and I'm hardly on the interwebz 24/7...

Doubt there's anything sinister or particularly mysterious going on here folks...



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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March 22 - Canegrowers avoid cyclone damage


Canegrowers in north Queensland's Burdekin region are confident cane crops have withstood the effects of ex-Tropical Cyclone Ului which made landfall early on Sunday morning.

Canegrowers' chairman David Lando says he had been concerned about possible damage across the Burdekin.

He says he has been able to contact several growers and so far the news is positive.

"It's interesting ... 100 [kilometres] away from Bowen and that and they've been affected and we didn't get any rain or even a spit. We're very lucky, being on the northern side ... that's where the advantage has been," he said.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by Smell The Roses
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


Think there is a reason it has gotten a lot of attention on here? I say HAARP did this. Provide another theory please if you think you know what this could be, any ideas at all?


So you're now saying that HAARP causes radar glitches?

Okay they're quite weird radar glitches and little wonder BoM is looking into them. The glitches we get in Britain never get better than a brief 'spoked wheel' effect.

Actually, I'm just wondering whether BoM bought their radar off a dodgy looking guy named Del, down at Peckham Market? What plonkers!



Incidently, just in case anyone was wondering - these anomalies are centred precisely over the locations of radar sites - as can be found here:

www.bom.gov.au...

[edit on 3-4-2010 by Essan]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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Fictional Ionospheric Operator: Cyclone path data loaded into MAMA. Yes. Affirmative boss, I made sure to enable the "snap to nearest radar site" checkbox. We have PD. Do we have confirmation? We have confirmation. We're go in 3...2...1...Target bulge pattern stable. Angel 1 Capacitor banks at 98%. Atmospherics? Delta p is...we're 0.02 pascals below simulation. Cyclone path recalculation in progress... Complete. Target two projected path within tolerances, no relocation required. Magnitude adjustment required. Modulating target two power for gradient correction... gradient correction magnitude calculated. Do we have confirmation for target two? Confirmation received. We're go for alternate harmonics in 3...2...1...dimple pattern stable. Angel 2 Capacitor banks at 99%. Cyclone path recalculation complete. IonosatAlpha confirms bulge patterns filling out nicely...Oh is that the Thai I ordered? Thanks.

[edit on 3-4-2010 by elusive1]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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Found this image that, whilst not quite the same as the pics on this thread, is similar in someways.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly

Found this image that, whilst not quite the same as the pics on this thread, is similar in someways.


Wobbly Anomaly.....

Although that site appears to be blocked from here, I can see it's simply Hoagland BS.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not


Although that site appears to be blocked from here, I can see it's simply Hoagland BS.



Hoagland doesnt usually take the photos himself, just adds an amusing viewpoint (it's not a serious research site ya know !!!) there are a lot of unresearched comments......ironically


anyway, here is another link to the same image




and if that doesnt work, the image search on google is 'gravity waves'



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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Ok, i had to register to write this. I read some where that LHC would make similar kind of pattern if there would be some serious shtf problems. Don't really recall the source and details. It had something to do with earths core and black holes, that affect magnetic field of earth or something like that.

Now there was a similar radar image taken from switzerland with same sort of patter than this. You can find it from Phages links, some of those pages have the image from swizerland, and quess what!

That part of australia is DIRECTLY on the other side of the globe from LHC. It is pinpoint accurate from LHC installation if you go directly through earth, to that pattern we have observed in Australia.

I'm not normally concerned about anything written on this site, since most of it is written by loonies, but this does not look too good to me. Also, glitch in algorithm does NOT make that kind of pattern, i know that.

Let us all hope, my theory is wrong with LHC. If not, we are going to have some problems i predict.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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The antipode of Australia is the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Did they move the LHC recently?
www.antipodemap.com...


[edit on 4/4/2010 by Phage]



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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nope, but i tought i could get someone to a late aprils fool. Heh heh, too bad you revealed my cunning plan.... too bad i didnt get to see any freaked out people.
Maybe i should drink little less. *Throws the beer away...



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by BellaMente
Those aren't typical interference patterns by the way.

Actually, I have never seen any interference patterns even remotely similar...


You may not have but I have


These are all normal radar anomalies, some are more rare than other, like the ring of fire one we caught on our radar recently (first time sighted on a BOM radar). There are several causes of these, each different to the other, ranging from problems with the magnetron, to simple inteference.

Really people, its nothing unusual, we see them on a weekly basis on our internal RAPIC images before the public gets them, but I guess its ATS tradition to think the most sinister, most unusual thoughts for something they cant understand.



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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Hey Oz glad you got on this thread.

To be honest I was a bit intrigued by them.

Can you provide links, photos screenshots that are similair in size and type, with known causes from previous years then?

How often then would you say these type and size of anaomolies come up?

Is each case investifgated till the source is found, or is it a case of "Thats probably...." and left to that?

Many many radar operators around the world have come forward and admitted when strange things are seen esp in relation to also visual sightings by reliabel witness etc pilots etc, and a Radar track has occured to in the UFO cases, that the next day some guys in suits and miliatry passes take the records away.... would that maybe lead to the above question being an modus operandi for analogies?

These images on the thread are they produced from Satellite Radar or from joining many differant ground based radar images together?

How on earth could image 2 be caused by normal interference, of a non directed, deliberate and spinning/moving source?

Lastly, without being too personal how long have you been reading weather radar tracks officially? (this is not anything to do with your credibility, just interested if the "training/education" system of what to do with such glitches got changed over the years to reflect the high incidence of unknown returns etc)

Looking forward to your feedback on this one.

Elf



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Can you provide links, photos screenshots that are similair in size and type, with known causes from previous years then?


We dont log images of radar anomalies, our radar techs are more interested in fixing them rather than analysing the pictures.



How often then would you say these type and size of anaomolies come up?


Depends on the anomaly, some are more frequent than others



Is each case investifgated till the source is found, or is it a case of "Thats probably...." and left to that?


No, the problem is investigated and then fixed. You cant fix something unless you know what is causing the problem



Many many radar operators around the world have come forward and admitted when strange things are seen esp in relation to also visual sightings by reliabel witness etc pilots etc, and a Radar track has occured to in the UFO cases, that the next day some guys in suits and miliatry passes take the records away.... would that maybe lead to the above question being an modus operandi for analogies?


Well weather watch radars dont operate the same way as other radars. Its highly unlikely that a weather watch radar will pick up much more than precipitation and in a few cases, chaff, smog etc. You cant really track anything larger, (ie planes or UFO's) as the radar isnt set up for that.



These images on the thread are they produced from Satellite Radar or from joining many differant ground based radar images together?


Thats incorrect. The radar images are showing the rainfall (the coloured areas), and thats overlayed onto satellite imagery taken from weather satellites. These satellites have absolutely nothing to do with whats seen on the radar.



How on earth could image 2 be caused by normal interference, of a non directed, deliberate and spinning/moving source?


Again, its equipment malfunction caused by problems with the magnetron, IF attenuator etc, NOT normal inteference. Normal inteference shows up as a completely different picture than when there is an equipment malfunction of failure.

Here's what our top radar tech said when I asked him about one of the images in question, (I posted this on another thread when it occured)



Nice to hear from you. Nice picture. There is only two techs in Australia that would be able to identify that radar fault. I am one of them.
Its is called the ring of fire fault. coined by Harvey Edwards. It was seen in Indo radars by him and me. It is caused by severe arching inside the pulse forming network of the Radar. Never seen it here before.




Lastly, without being too personal how long have you been reading weather radar tracks officially? (this is not anything to do with your credibility, just interested if the "training/education" system of what to do with such glitches got changed over the years to reflect the high incidence of unknown returns etc)


Ive been with the Bureau of Meteorology since 2005, including 9 months training. We are taught to read the radar images as we need to monitor them almost constantly. Any malfunction or anomaly is usually dealt with by our radar techs, who specialise in fixing them. Weather radars are extremely complex machines, and due to the large number of software, hardware, mechanical and other parts, often cause problems to occur frequently.

Im kind of sick of people thinking that these are some kind of sinister plot or some kind of HAARP based BS, so Im going to head of this thread for the time being.

If anyone wants to find out anything about weather radar, google WF100, WF44 weather radars



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