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New mileage rules: Pay more for cars, less at pump

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posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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WASHINGTON – Drivers will have to pay more for cars and trucks, but they'll save at the pump under tough new federal rules aimed at boosting mileage, cutting emissions and hastening the next generation of fuel-stingy hybrids and electric cars.



The new standards, announced Thursday, call for a 35.5 miles-per-gallon average within six years, up nearly 10 mpg from now.



Touting the plan, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said, "Putting more fuel-efficient cars on the road isn't just the right thing to do for our environment, it's also a great way for Americans to save a lot of money at the pump."


Well, I dont think Ive even heard of this on the news at all. I never even heard of this being talked about or anything. It just popped up out of the blue for me.

I think it sounds like a good plan, but unfortuantly, how do we not know gasoline is going to be $5 or more at the pump when this takes effect. Im just going to have to wait and see how this all works out in the next few years.




posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687
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WASHINGTON – Drivers will have to pay more for cars and trucks, but they'll save at the pump under tough new federal rules aimed at boosting mileage, cutting emissions and hastening the next generation of fuel-stingy hybrids and electric cars.



The new standards, announced Thursday, call for a 35.5 miles-per-gallon average within six years, up nearly 10 mpg from now.



Touting the plan, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said, "Putting more fuel-efficient cars on the road isn't just the right thing to do for our environment, it's also a great way for Americans to save a lot of money at the pump."


Well, I dont think Ive even heard of this on the news at all. I never even heard of this being talked about or anything. It just popped up out of the blue for me.

I think it sounds like a good plan, but unfortuantly, how do we not know gasoline is going to be $5 or more at the pump when this takes effect. Im just going to have to wait and see how this all works out in the next few years.


Sounds good to me. Obama is really trying to govern from a practical big-issue approach. I think it is fair to implement this on the heels of opening up shoreline drilling. There are more pieces to his comprehensive energy program, as well, and much stimulus money is pouring into alternative energy development.

It's real smart if you think about it. Although not much oil will ever be extracted, the crude market is so psychological that prices will hopefully be depressed by the move short-term. Also, taking this approach softens the short range economic hit that the transition to the future will likely necessitate to some parts of the economy. Meanwhile, we can finally start making progress towards increased efficiency in the medium turn, and transition to the next generation of energy medium-longterm. If gas is $5/ gallon, those increased MPG will be looking even better.

Man, it will be so good for the US to be somewhat energy independent. I'm glad it appears Obama is staying focused, and not letting the ditto-heads yelling, 'rabble, rabble, rabble,' from his implementing the big issue solutions we desperately need.

Best,
Skunknuts

[edit on 4/1/2010 by skunknuts]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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If the government wants to help out, they need to take a bigger step than "35" MPG.

The last hybrid I drove is like this.

Electric battery runs the car up to about 10 MPH. Then, it switches to gas (about 25 MPG range). If you are at high speeds and not decelerating, it will switch to electric also.

That is a hybrid car. We need some real technology. 50 MPG at the minimum, and if that is not possible we need to look in other technologies...and not ethanol again.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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While the Boomers still live, there will be a KAR KULTURE...once they are gone, the saving, salvaging, refurbishing of antique autos will come to an end.

If you want to see one of the oldies, you'll have to go to a museum.

The outdated, high pollution emitting internal combustion engine propelled vehicle will be ultimately banned from road ways.

The push, which is more like a sharp shove off of a cliff towards "hybrid cars" is an omen of things to come. Give it ten years, and the older gasoline powered cars of today will be history. Cash for Clunkers was a gimmick that really accomplished nothing. What is next, is forcing you to buy a "new environmentally friendly car" or ride mass transit, walk, or ride a bicycle.

Eventually, the age of the vehicle will cut it off from being re-issued a license plate.

Under certain conditions, an older car could be re-licensed, but there will be a stiff tax imposed on it, making it very expensive to drive. Gasoline will be 7.00+ @ gal, and the reformulated Syn-Petro fuel will not burn well in the old V8 powered gas guzzler. So Profiling down the Strip in a gold metal flaked `84 Olds Cutlass will be nearly impossible.

As a good "comrade" of the Socialist Republic, you'll have a choice of a nice car, or a nice place to live. But not both. For you have both at once, you'll have to pay a heavy tax. The government allotted car will be small, cheaply made, fuel efficient and as non polluting as can be made. Only high officials of importance will get to have Mercedes Benz's or Top End BMW's. The common comrade will get something like a Electric-diesel 2 cyl. YUGO in white or gray-blue enamel. Top speed; 140 KPH. The cost of this jewel will be 20,000 Euros/Ameros, taken from your monthly pay check. The ownership is really nothing more than a glorified rental program. Once the car is ten years old, it will be recalled and scrapped. Then you get to buy (rent) another new one, if you still qualify.

If you want a nice place to live instead, in the city near where you work, you'll have a choice of a one or two bedroom flat/condo. ( birth rates will be limited to one child as it is in China) It'll have the basic's for a comfortable life, without being ostentatious. Simple is the word. The average footage of your flat will be 900 sq.ft.

To own a house out in the country side that is three, four or more bedrooms, with four other usable rooms, with a pool, a four stall garage, you will have to be either a corrupt politician or a high ranking official.

Common Comrade will not be able to afford the taxes on such a place.

Right now the average cost a decent car is 25 to 30,000 dollars. A really great high end car will set you back $65,000 plus... In the 1960's a full optioned Cadillac convertible was $3,900. A Chevy Impala w/V8 was $2,400. A Ramble American Wagon 6 cyl. auto was $1,900. A Ford Falcon 6 cyl. three speed manual was $1,000. A Chevy Corvette was around $5,000. A Super Charged V8 powered, four passenger, Fiber-glassed Body, 160 mph Studebaker Avanti was $5,500. A Chevy Corvair Convertible was with every available option was less than $2,200. In 1972 a Ford De Tomaso Pantera was $10,000. In 1966, a Jaguar XKE was $5,200. In 1965 my fathers dressed out Harley Davidson was $1,500 off of the floor.

Today, the cheapest piece`0 crap car you can buy is $10,000+ easily. Which is why I try very hard to maintain my cars and keep them in good running order. I can't afford to replace them at the same level. Not unless I want to live on beans and pan cakes for five years!

You can thank the unions for the cost of a vehicle today.

The average cost of a new 1,300 sq ft home w/ three bedrooms in the 1960's was $15 to $18,000. A home like it in 1950 was $10 to $12,000. Some homes that were 980 sq ft were $9,000. Hundreds of thousands of these cheap starter homes were built.

In 1900, a full blown mansion on estate grounds could be built for under $20,000. Unless the owner wanted very special amenities that were of imported and rare origins, then the costs escalated. A $50,000 mansion was nearly unheard of, and made the news when one was built.

Today that same little 1,200 to 1,300 sq ft. home is $200,000 plus depending on what city it is in, and where.
The old mansions are multiple millions...

Brand new 5,000 to 7,500+ sq. ft. Mc Mansion homes are a Million dollars minimum. You can thank the Construction Trades unions for the excessive costs of a houses today. $25 to $35 @ hour labor costs for the guy behind a framing nail gun! Finishing Carpenters get double that. Forget the Plumbers and Electricians...they charge what ever the hell the want and get away with it.

We have greedily screwed ourselves, and the costs will only go up and up, until everything is government owned, controlled and allocated.

Therefore Comrade, I wanting my Yu-Go " Luxe Edition" in blue-gray with plaid broad cloth interior, the canvas sun roof, and optional silver enamel wheels in the white wall tire. If please you, could I having the decoration of body pin stripe in red? I will pay! My cousin can for me buy the chromium custom exhaust pipe cover. It will be looking sweet.



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