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posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:39 PM
I am bringing this from this thread-
Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States? Restore America

From this comment-post by autowrench

Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by PACRIM
From my understanding, the Constitution as written before 1868 along with the original 13th amendment is the one to be followed.

In 1868 the Constitution was rewritten by Congress without ratification by the States. That was the period when the United States of America was changed to the Corporation of the United States. Compare the 1868 version to the current Constitution and you will see the differences.

The original 13th amendment was tossed aside and replaced by the Abolition of Slavery. This seems strange since after the incorporation, we as citizens became over time slaves to the corporation.

Some links for you, may answer your questions fully.

The Declaration of Independence 1776

Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union 1777

The Constitution For The United States - Its Sources and Its Application

Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death - Patrick Henry, St. John's Church, March 23, 1775

The Anti-Federalist Papers

The Federalist Papers


United States Constitution Amendments Article II of the Bill of Rights

The Real Thirteenth Article of Amendment to the Constitution of the United States - Titles of Nobility and Honour

Additional Links to Data on The Original Thirteenth Amendment

The Virginia Ratification of the Constitution of the United States

Virginia, to wit:

We the delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected in pursuance of a recommendation from the general assembly, and now met in convention, having fully and freely investigated and discussed the proceedings of the Federal Convention, and being prepared as well as the most mature deliberation hath enabled us, to decide thereon, Do, in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known, that the powers granted under the constitution, being derived from the people of the United States, may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby, remains with them and at their will; and therefore no right, of any denomination, can be cancelled, abridged, restrained or modified by the congress, by the senate or house of representatives acting in any capacity, by the president or any department, or officer of the United States, except in those instances in which power is given by the constitution for those purposes; and that among other essential rights, the liberty of conscience and of the press cannot be cancelled, abridged, restrained or modified by any authority of the United States. With these impressions, with a solemn appeal to the Searcher of Hearts for the purity of our intentions, and under the conviction that whatsoever imperfections may exist in the constitution ought rather to be examined in the mode prescribed therein, than to bring the Union into danger by delay, with a hope of obtaining amendments, previous to the ratification: We the said delegates, in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, do by these presents assent to and ratify the constitution recommended on the 17th day of September, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-seven, by the Federal Convention, for the government of the United States; hereby announcing to all those whom it may concern, that the said constitution is binding upon the said people, according to an authentic copy hereto annexed.


Thomas Jefferson's Inaugural Addresses

Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political;

Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none;

The support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies;

The preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad;

A jealous care of the right of election by the people — a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided;

Absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism;

A well disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them;

The supremacy of the civil over the military authority;

Economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened;

The honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith;

Encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid;

The diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason;

Freedom of religion;

Freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected.


Internal Dangers to Individual Liberty

"If the liberties of America are ever compleatly ruined, of which in my opinion there is now the utmost danger, it will in all probability be the consequence of a mistaken notion of prudence, which leads men to acquiesce in measures of the most destructive tendency for the sake of present ease. When designs are form'd to rase the very foundation of a free government, those few who are to erect their grandeur and fortunes upon the general ruin, will employ every art to sooth the devoted people into a state of indolence, inattention and security, which is forever the fore-runner of slavery-- They are alarmed at nothing so much, as attempts to awaken the people to jealousy and watchfulness; and it has been an old game played over and over again, to hold up the men who would rouse their fellow citizens and countrymen to a sense of their real danger, and spirit them to the most zealous activity in the use of all proper means for the preservation of the public liberty, as 'pretended patriots,' 'intemperate politicians,' rash, hotheaded men, Incendiaries, wretched desperadoes, who, as was said of the best of men, would turn the world upside down, or have done it already."

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending at all hazards: and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood; and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy upon the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle; or be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men. Of the latter we are in most danger at present. Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity; and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, WHICH IS THE WISH OF OUR ENEMIES, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude and perseverance. Let us remember that "if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom!" It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that MILLIONS YET UNBORN MAY BE THE MISERABLE SHARERS IN THE EVENT."

"The tragedy of American freedom, it is to be feared, is nearly compleated. A tyranny seems to be at the very door. It is to little purpose, then, to go about coolly to rehearse the gradual steps that have been taken, the means that have been used, and the instruments employed to encompass the ruin of the public liberty. We know them and we detest them. But what will this avail, if we have not courage and resolution to prevent the completion of their system?"
--Samuel Adams


All Weblinks from the website of Barefoot Bob. May he Rest in Peace.
Barefoot's World

A few more....

The Lieber Code of 1863 (Martial Law Still Exists)

UCC: uniform commercial code

America’s Two Constitutions (One for the Rich, One for the Poor)

Declaring The Intent of America's FOUNDING FATHERS

Welcome to

Hope I have answered yours, and everyone else's questions here.

posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 11:41 PM
Bringing this in from this thread-Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States? Restore America

From this comment-post by hawkiye

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by PACRIM
From my understanding, the Constitution as written before 1868 along with the original 13th amendment is the one to be followed.

In 1868 the Constitution was rewritten by Congress without ratification by the States. That was the period when the United States of America was changed to the Corporation of the United States. Compare the 1868 version to the current Constitution and you will see the differences.

The original 13th amendment was tossed aside and replaced by the Abolition of Slavery. This seems strange since after the incorporation, we as citizens became over time slaves to the corporation.

Close but not exactly. The earliest constitution we have is 1789 AD as amended.. Anything before that was burned or stolen by the British in the war of 1812. That is when the original 13th amendment went missing and dozens of versions of the Constitution appeared. Congress enacted the Organic act of 1871 which incorporated the District of Columbia and this corporation was the beginning of it all. Gradually the republic faded and the corp took over and expanded its reach and incorporated the trade name "THE UNITED STATES" which is the main corporation it operates under today. At some point and I don't remember the dates the corporation adopted the constitution as it's corporate charter with some subtle changes and have continued to change it and amend it AS A CORPORATE CHARTER not the organic constitution. So every amendment after the original 13th is just corporate charter and null and void. We had some vestiges of the Republic up until 1972 but most of it we sh!t canned in 1933. The republic still exist but there is nobody home so to speak.

This is why they ignore the constitution and implemented a socialist democracy, changed how senators were elected, and even how the president is elected it's all just corporate policy changes. The vote is just a dog and pony show so the people think they have a voice. It's all predetermined! How does any corporation make a change? Do they ask the employees to vote? Or do they just circulate a memo? This is why the CEO of the US corporation whom everyone thinks is the president of the republic just issues executive orders. They do just enough to keep the people deceived into thinking they are still in the Republic when they are nothing more then employees of a federal municipal corporation and treated as such.

You got to hand it to them they have done a magnificent job of deceiving the people into thinking they were free while robbing them blind of all their wealth and property while they scramble for left over crumbs. The plan is diabolically ingenious and the majority of the people are still hoodwinked by it and they even come on here and pooh pooh posts like mine explaining it.

The good news is the plan has a self destruct sequence built in and that is the fiat money from nothing currency. It has ended badly every time in history and I believe these arrogant bastards thought they were different and could perpetuate it indefinitely in spite of all history to the contrary. It is failing and in its death throws now and it is only a matter of time before it hits critical mass and the whole thing collapses.

People can voluntarily leave the corporation and go back and operate on the republic and this is the way to peacefully change things however most don't believe it so refuse to try.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:02 AM
reply to post by boondock-saint

Haha! Female, here, Boondock...antique one, but female, nonetheless.
Well I promised myself I'd get some sleep tonight, so I bid you all adieu.
I'd like to say that in scouring the web the past several days concerning the Restore America Plan--I have come to the conclusion that this site, by far, has the most important and up-to-date information...

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:06 AM
reply to post by boondock-saint

Boondock- Do you have a working link to the source of the military confirm. its not working in the link provided

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:08 AM

we have done it


This is a Martial Law Round-Up

according to the Continental Congress 2009 Agenda

ANYBODY who signed these are going to jail
as being a terrorist

A concerted effort was made to set-up the entire patriot/constitutionalist/militia movement into formally making terroristic threats which would have (and still holds some) potential to trigger the justification of declaring martial law and the round-up of all patriots as terrorists.

The Scheme:

Robert Schulz , through his We The People Foundation, whether voluntarily or under duress, organized a Continental Congress 2009 consisting of 105 duly elected citizen delegates representing 48 of the several states. The Congress was held in St. Charles, IL from Nov. 11-22.

Manipulated by a pre-planned agenda, the delegates formed sub-committees to draft “reports” which would become part of a finished document entitled, “The Articles of Association” (since changed to “The Articles of Freedom”). The pre-determined format of these reports was to include instructions to the Congress, the State Legislatures, and the People.

Instructions to the Congress included the formation of an unelected/appointed “Advisory Council” to which all legislation was to be submitted for Council approval before enactment. Such statements within these initial reports did not immediately raise “red flags”.

Subsequently the final document of the “Articles of Association” would include (under a section entitled “Instructions for Civic Action”) a call for the mobilization of millions of American citizens pledging to simultaneously carry out across America such acts as: to stop traffic on highways, bridges (George Washington Bridge, NY, etc.), tunnels; to close Congress, State Houses, IRS offices, TV stations, etc. This was not readily realized by the delegates who were swamped with initial reports, then found themselves voting on reports they were not afforded the opportunity to read due to “lack of toner in the copy machines”.

One delegate made it a point to read a written copy of each of the reports and the initial proposed “The Articles of Association”. In reading all of the fine print, he realized that the entire agenda boiled down to a manipulation of the delegates into making a demand on Congress to submit to an unelected authoritative body under threat of “serious public inconvenience”. (See Black’s Law Dictionary “terroristic threat”) This is very similar to the communist tactic of making a demand for power under threat of national labor strikes.

This final document package from Continental Congress 2009 would serve as a means to marginalize and demonize the entire patriot/constitutionalist/militia movement in the eyes of the American people. It would give a perceived justification of rounding up millions who signed the pledge.

The delegate stopped the proceedings by calling for a “Point of Information”, requesting a legal definition of the term “terroristic threat” and consideration of that definition in relation to the Continental Congress delegates being charged with the felony offense of “conspiring to commit terroristic threats”. He was immediately ruled out of order by the President of CC2009, Michael Badnarik. The Sgt of Arms was instantly called to escort the delegate from the podium. As he was being escorted out, another delegate (who had been trying to bring out information about the 14th Amendment) stepped up to the microphone and began reading the requested definition from Black’s Law Dictionary. That delegate was also immediately ruled out of order and the microphone grabbed away.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:12 AM
reply to post by endisnighe

Damn, did Boondock just call the bluff was this truly a round up, think he just tried to discredit the info too. No attack on him, guess it was just personalized.

Sorry Boondock nothing against you..just making a point

I still have my doubts about the movement, I do believe it could be a round up of all the patriots who signed on and support it. Who really knows.

Even thought this article is a few months dated it wasnt that long ago and fits in with some beliefs website name was funny

Few more days to weeks to see what happens with this declaration

[edit on 2-4-2010 by KonigKaos]

[edit on 2-4-2010 by KonigKaos]

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:40 AM
reply to post by boondock-saint

Yes, if you wanted to go by the actions to be taken after the redress has not been addressed.

By Constitutional Law taking arms or actions against the "Rightful" or "Lawful" officials is an act of treason or sedition.

Here is the thing though, if the government will not address the grievances of the people, the officials are no longer the lawful government. They are in fact usurpers of the government acting against the Constitution.

Of course if you do not take this into account the usurpers can use the color of law codes to throw people in jail. Yes it could be a trap, but it may be a trap for the government itself also.

Of course I would like to see the link for that info you just commented here.

edit to add-
Alright, if this is actually Peter F. Boyce's writing explain how on this page-

Resist Net

Why is there a pledge bar for the Articles of Freedom on this page.

And here is his page on that site

Peter F. Boyce Resist Net

You have to dig deeper. Anyone can post a supposed paper and paste a name address and phone number.

So ask yourself, was it really him that wrote that? Kind of makes me suspicious when he is on Resist Net and there is a link to the Articles of Freedom on that site.

Plus, so acting to disrupt or hold rallies now is sedition or treason. Sounds kind of flimsy. Almost like a cointelpro maneuver to scare people away from the movement.

Keep an open mind and question everything.

[edit on 4/2/2010 by endisnighe]

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:42 AM
we truly are doomed

there is no hope

this is nothing short of entrapment

targeting an individual's Patriotic
side to end the corruption in government

this is why it's not in the MSM

cuz it's a Gov Sting

I am a Patriot and I love my country
and want to make it better
that is my only crime

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:44 AM
I renounce any and all involvement
with this Restore America Act and the
Articles of Freedom.

I will just sit at home and wait to die like
everybody else.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:44 AM
Boondock, do you have that Military Confirm video link that works from a page or so ago

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:46 AM

Originally posted by endisnighe
Of course I would like to see the link for that info you just commented here.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 12:51 AM

Originally posted by KonigKaos
reply to post by boondock-saint

Boondock- Do you have a working link to the source of the military confirm. its not working in the link provided

it has been removed

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:06 AM
reply to post by boondock-saint

Hey, the threads are for examining the topics people, not random discussion. Now look at the two links I posted and tell me why they have a link to the Articles of Freedom and Boyles is a member there.

I think you have dug up the first propaganda to be developed.

Sorry about the snip, getting tired of the crap the MSM and # are pulling. Remember when you could actually get real investigative reporting, instead of the reporters just parroting what the government tells them?

[edit on 4/2/2010 by endisnighe]

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:22 AM
Security increased after Utah governor receives threatening letter

SALT LAKE CITY -- Law enforcement agencies say they're looking into threatening letters received by at least two western governors -- in Utah and in Nevada -- and possibly governors in all 50 states.

The letters come as a prominent national watchdog warns about a growing danger of anti-government violence.

Gov. Gary Herbert's spokesperson said the governor's office received that letter on Tuesday.

Notice how immediately they lump sum this into the Hutaree story, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with RAP.

BUT, it appears to be one more state that was indeed served.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:25 AM
reply to post by TrueAmerican

Well, we all said the first maneuver was going to be that they would demonize it. Well, they are going to run with what they know, lies and propaganda.

Oh well, if that is the way they are going to go, I guess we all better just give up and not go on the 19th.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:31 AM
reply to post by endisnighe

hell no. Nothing would deter me from going!

I am going, i don't care how hectic it may become, im still going! I am bringing my cam, and my voice!

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:31 AM
Ok. There seems to be a misconception about the Guardians of the Free Republics. the Continental Congress 2009 and NESARA.

As I understand it none of the three are affiliated. Their aims may be similar in many respects but not co-joined.

The letters being disseminated to the 50 Governors is being done as part of the Restore America Plan under the Guardians of the Free Republic. I will not bore you with the details - if you have not read from their site by now, you are not going to. Non-violent - repeat - for those of you in the back row NON-VIOLENT. read it for yourselves.

I cannot speak to the Continental Congress 2009 nor NESARA neither of which I am affiliated.

And please take 2 things into account - the new info came from a blog and let us not forget what day it is - or was.

As far as denouncing my involvement in the Restore America Plan - I would no sooner denounce Jesus.

just my .02

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 01:31 AM
Wisconsin and Vermont received the letter too:

No security increase after Governor receives letter asking for his resignation
Posted: Apr 01, 2010 5:16 PM EDT
By Katie Rosenberg

MADISON (WAOW)--Governor Jim Doyle (D-Wisconsin) is not reacting to a letter asking him to resign.

According to several news outlets across the country, a sovereign citizen group that advocates removing all state governors from office sent letters to at least 30 governors.

Carla Vigue, the communications director for the Doyle Administration, confirms that Doyle did receive a letter this week asking him to resign. Doyle's security team notified the FBI and they are monitoring the situation .

However security has not been changed or heightened.

Meanwhile in other states Governors are taking the threat more seriously.

In Vermont Governor Jim Douglas increased security according to the Burlington Free Press.

So that's at least 4 states that got it that we know of.

posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 02:07 AM
OP it is OK, thanks for the reply

Just to add so its here, so we know what we can do, worldwide in less than two weeks we can choose to be part of the PEACEFULL and easy change, and finally get the power back from those wever let enslave us for generations!

(Prior to Patriots Day April 19)


* Our future depends on restoring our rights. Plan ahead, ask for time off, use vacation days or whatever it takes. Get school assignments for your children, who will able to learn about our Constitution through online programs. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST GO TO WORK, THEN GO! PARTICIPATE IN THE OTHER STEPS. DO WHAT YOU CAN!! LEARN ABOUT THEARTICLES OF FREEDOM& OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! - IT'S A MONEY GAME - THEY WANT OURS, TIME TO CHANGE THE RULES.







Worldwide Strike 15th-18th April

With the fantastic information OP has brought to this thread, we can see there is rumblings not just in general society, but also within the institutions themselves.

THE EMPORER HAS NO CLOTHES, or is very nearly naked, looking forward to seeing the truth of nakedness soon! just after the 18th if we do something rather than just talk, follow the guidlines above, its just sooo simple!!


posted on Apr, 2 2010 @ 02:15 AM

I have a severe clarification to make.

I was contributing to this thread without realizing that it had mixed several of these groups with different ideologies into one thread. I have been talking very specifically about the Restore America Plan and Tim Turner, which has nothing to do with the groups involved in these April 19th protests. Please understand all comments I made in this thread involve ONLY discussion about the Restore America Plan.

In my eagerness to contribute information about Restore America Plan, I did not realize I would be adding to the confusion about this group being equated to other groups. Please accept this apology for any confusion this may have caused. Again, ANY contribution by me has been ONLY in reference to Tim Turner and Restore America Plan, including any links provided.

I'm re-posting here what I just posted in the other thread related directly to Restore America Plan:

"I'm not sure where this April 19th thing came into play, maybe I missed something on one of the Tim Turner broadcasts, it is not like I have seen every bit of info out there, but I have been listening to all of the talkshoe recordings.

My point is that I don't believe I have heard Tim Turner or any of the others that directly talk about the Restore America Plan, ever mention anything about getting millions by the 19th of April, or any protest whatsoever. From what I can tell they still want this under wraps until something happens with the Governors, and then the education campaign can begin.

I have a feeling that several of these groups are being mixed together in peoples minds, there are a lot of things happening concurrently and perhaps some of the wires got crossed.

I would appreciate if someone could point me to the information showing that this April 19th protest has direct involvement from Restore America Plan, as I am currently under the impression that is an entirely separate event/group. I will go back and try to find where people are making this connection now.

edit: it appears some of this confusion might be coming from the other thread about April 19th, in which several of these different groups are being discussed together. So I remain under the impression that the Restore America Plan is not related to whatever protest is set to happen on April 19th. "

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]

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