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posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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I don't care if any main stream media outlets report it. If you can show me one governor that can confirm that he has been served, I will put some effort into believing it, otherwise, don't just say "nobody will tell you, but you must believe because it's right" and expect me to believe it.

EDIT: I went to your links and found "one governor" (maybe I should have asked for two...), so it appears that "one governor" has received the letter. According to the video in the other thread, they would have "72 hoiurs to respond or immediate action would be taken." Has that been debunked yet?

[edit on 4/1/2010 by SonicInfinity]




posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by The dragon is taking over
My whole thing that I don't get, is they say it's a 'behind the scenes National Movement' If they are trying to restore America , why would they do it behind the scenes?


Most of the work had to be done in secrecy because of various reasons, however the largest reason is this:

People are largely uninformed as to the current status of their alleged 'government', and a slow education process needs to take place before the majority of people would accept this movement as valid.

They would not have been successful in getting this far without years of planning and study behind the scenes. They still are hesitant to push out information beyond their talkshoe broadcasts and few websites, because now that the declaration has been received by the Governors, there needs to be responses, then further action taken if the Governors choose not to take the oath.

If you plan out in the open for everyone to see, then there is a much better chance at failure due to outside influences. This is not an armed revolt, but the restoration of lawful government. In an armed revolt you may want to scream from the rooftops. In a peaceful restoration of power to the people, you want to work calmly and silently, educating those that need it, and attempting not to alienate those who don't want to be a part of it.

EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Ionized
reply to post by SonicInfinity
 


The Governors have been served. If no one will accept this until Fox news reports it, then people can continue living in denial.

The military would likely not openly discuss its involvement in a plan to restore power to the people. Those who are waiting for military officials to come out and talk about it in a press release, may have to wait a bit longer. They certainly know about it. The FBI knew in advance, from the article:

"Deputy Chief of Staff Lynn Hettrick said the FBI told Gibbons and other governors around the country to expect the letters. FBI agents were at the Capitol on Monday when the letter arrived, he said."


I don't want to wait for FOX news. I don't like FOX News. I want to see the articles. I know there is a lot of information on the front page, but to be honest it's very intimidating to go through all those links just to find the information you are talking about.

It would be really nice to post the links to the articles or where to look them up. But saying a part of an article WITHOUT providing a link to it sucks for those that want to read the whole thing.

I don't want to read articles demonizing the movement.

EDIT: I found it. please forgive my ignorance.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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When we went out in the street and elected Scott Brown, we were not electing Scott Brown, a wishy washy conservative, we were participating in the beginning of a revolution. I know. I was there. I'll be there in Boston at the rally as well, I can't wait! I guarantee there will be a massive turnout. We have been one of the bluest of the blue states for a long time but believe me, most people here like most people in America are center-right in their core beliefs, even if they vote democrat because they're union, Catholic, government worker socialists.

It's weird to talk to them. They know right from wrong, and they insist on voting democrat. But not in the Brown election, and not this November.

Come on down if you can! Love that dirty water!

FattyZ



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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I'm curios if my links are not showing up? I posted them right under the part you quoted, do you not see them on your computer?

EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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That makes more sense, I just don't like how they didn't announce it before they sent the letters. Almost like it...man I don't even know anymore. I'm going to stop thinking about it for awhile... haha My head hurts, and being sick doesn't help. xP



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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Here is a fourth article I forgot to link. From it, we have:

"Hettrick said Nevada apparently wasn't singled out, that every governor's office in the country received one of the letters."

www.nevadaappeal.com...

EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ionized
reply to post by The dragon is taking over
 


I'm curios if my links are not showing up? I posted them right under the part you quoted, do you not see them on your computer?


MY BAD.
Sorry i see the quote now. I reread the articles.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Ionized
"Hettrick said Nevada apparently wasn't singled out, that every governor's office in the country received one of the letters."

www.nevadaappeal.com...


Thanks, that link really helps. However, I'd still like to know if the "need to respond within 72 hours or immediate action will be taken" thing in the video in that last thread is true or false.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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No problem.

One glaring misrepresentation from those articles that needs clarification is that most of the Governors were not asked to resign their jobs outright. In reality they were asked to take oath to the true government. The articles are making it sound like they were told to leave office or else, but in reality, they are being given a chance to take an oath before being vacated. Those that are part of the bar association will simply be vacated, those that are not will have a chance to take oath.

All of this information can be found by listening to the talkshoe episodes of Tim Turner, and the others that are linked in the OP on this thread and by me earlier.

The declaration sent to the Governors will likely not be publicly made available at this time, as far as I can tell. For that you will have to wait til things progress good or bad.


Originally posted by SonicInfinity
Thanks, that link really helps. However, I'd still like to know if the "need to respond within 72 hours or immediate action will be taken" thing in the video in that last thread is true or false.


I do not know about the 72 hour thing, I swear that I heard them say more time would be allowed for them to decide, but I am not sure. That is the part we are ALL waiting on, how will they be removed if the Governors decide not take the oath. This is obviously where military involvement would have to come into play, and the major part that will show validity.

EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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This is definitely interesting.

However, the articles don't say the FBI are in favor of the group, just that they feel they are harmless. From previous articles posted by Ionized.

This quote however, is interesting.



The letters are apparently from an organization allied with Sovereign Citizens, which the Anti-Defamation League identifies as a collection of anti-government groups advocating an anarchist ideology. Its followers believe every level of government in the United States is illegitimate and should be eliminated. One of the ideology's adherents was Terry Nichols, accomplice of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

Capitol Locked Down In Wake Of Threats--originally posted by Ionized

EDITED FOR CLARITY

[edit on 1-4-2010 by The dragon is taking over]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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The Tim McVeigh crap is purposeful slander, and has already been laughed at and denied by Tim Turner in his broadcast last night. That is a perfect example why things have to be done behind the scenes, because the media and the Feds will use any means necessary to attempt to slander and discredit real Patriots. Associating Restore America Plan with alleged 'terrorists' is a good way to do so, isn't it?

Please refer to and listen to the two broadcasts i posted earlier today here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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star nd flag

great movements start as a thought, then a step, then a walk, then a run
this site, this thread, these people are the beggining of the return to real freedom for not just america but the world

just saw the late show and he had an elderly lady talking about this movement and how she/the movement was not scary AND non violent

MAIN STREAM MEDIA shows interview with little old lady makin the same points we are makin here wounder if this is to awaken the sheep?

this is the age of the internet poular ideas spread at the speed of lightning
make this idea open peoples minds to the fact we can fix everything in a very logical and lawfull way. when people hear this can be done they will be uplifted and help not critisise



THIS ONLY WORKS IF ITS NON VIOLENT


thank you for all your effort



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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Anyone ever hear of the war of the worlds radio brodcast's, do you doubt that the same can be achieved with the internet, I havent followed up on this story much and there does not seem to be any concrete prof, but if the media is silent on this it's because they dont want the story to spread, only what you hear and see exists. If you want this to take hold you will need to flood the search engines, Make this an issue, that all can see. If not it's just some dudes who found a loophole in the law for whatever reason. Oh and it's funny that the military put its bases on aleart for possible insubordination within abouth 10 hours or whatever, from the story on this, I guess they really are monitoring this site. If your reading this, Hello from the land of the internet monatoring people. hows your day going.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by endisnighe
 


star nd flag

great movements start as a thought, then a step, then a walk, then a run
this site, this thread, these people are the beggining of the return to real freedom for not just america but the world

just saw the late show and he had an elderly lady talking about this movement and how she/the movement was not scary AND non violent

MAIN STREAM MEDIA shows interview with little old lady makin the same points we are makin here wounder if this is to awaken the sheep?

this is the age of the internet poular ideas spread at the speed of lightning
make this idea open peoples minds to the fact we can fix everything in a very logical and lawfull way. when people hear this can be done they will be uplifted and help not critisise



THIS ONLY WORKS IF ITS NON VIOLENT


thank you for all your effort


Thats awesome - At least somebodies media is giving it a fair shake. It would be great if you could post video of what you spoke or maybe find an online vid in the near future. Thanks for your support.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by WWJFKD]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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Yeah I tried listening to it, but would prefer to see it written out. teleconferences and radio shows always seem to go way longer than they need to, and I don't want to hear about ladies going to las vegas and being funny, when I just want information.

You get it? I just don't want to sound rude, it's easier to see everything written down. Do they transcribe their broadcasts? I wouldn't mind that.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by The dragon is taking over]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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I await more news. Going to go lay down, maybe things will be clearer if i feel better. :/ Sorry everyone for dealing with me.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by The dragon is taking over
reply to post by Ionized
 


Yeah I tried listening to it, but would prefer to see it written out. teleconferences and radio shows always seem to go way longer than they need to, and I don't want to hear about ladies going to las vegas and being funny, when I just want information.

You get it? I just don't want to sound rude, it's easier to see everything written down. Do they transcribe their broadcasts? I wouldn't mind that.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by The dragon is taking over]


Goto www.gotfr.com and request an audience with your state coordinator who will gladly allow you to read the pronouncement. Or just drop by the old Governor and maybe they'll give you a peek.



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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I have spent hours upon hours listening and reading. I urge you to do the same. www.gotfr.org... is the closest you will get to the declaration at this point in time, along with several other links already provided in this thread and the others related.

Let me pose an idea about the military, and why this may all be so secretive. Conjecture for yourself that sects in the military have wanted to restore order to the people and away from the corporation acting as an alleged government, for many many many years now. Imagine if they were able to find a group of people who where already on the right path as far as understanding the history of this country and how the true Republic was taken over in the late 1800s. Imagine next if the military perhaps began to instruct this group of people on how to make a new declaration and presentment to state Governors, in order to allow those Governors to come back under the old Republic through peaceful means if they so choose. Imagine if there was specific wording that would allow the military to then take action only AFTER the people themselves have demanded it in the form of signed declaration to all Governors. Perhaps that is the reality behind this situation. But that is just my opinion.


EDIT: I did not at first realize that this thread had mixed several groups with differing ideologies. Some of these groups appear militant, whereas the group I was specifically referring to, the Restore America Plan, is a non-militant, peaceful attempt to restore the Republic.
Please see this post for further clarification:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 1 2010 @ 04:03 PM
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Impeccable thread no doubt about it.

Here is a hearty Star and Flag and bump from me.

I have been ecstatic lately that this is actually going to work.

We should have our country back by 2012, I think.

Optimistic, but achievable with the internet.

Remember we are everywhere, and trying to create a better world.








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