Supe, here's a copy of the U2U I sent you. I hope it's ok to post it here - i don't think there was anything that was personal, and of course it
is very much on topic.
>we saw what looked like a star/orb passing through
>the night sky at a rapid rate. I remembered that
>someone posted something similar on Youtube
>and claimed it as geniune Iridium flare footage.
Maybe, but I wouldn't use Youtube videos as a source of wisdom..! I'm presuming you are getting familiar with satellites by now, and should be able
to recognise them? They do move fast, and look 'high' (although you need to be careful about guessing or 'using your feelings' to estimate height)
Satellites are usually easy to verify:
- they are ONLY seen early evening, or just before dawn, NEVER late at night (for normal latitudes). that's because they are catching the last sun
rays that are then passing overhead of your location.
- usually, you can watch them dim and disappear (or vice versa) as they enter/leave the earth's shadow..
Iridiums are just normal satellites, but every now and then they brighten quite rapidly as the panels catch the sun, then dim back down to normal.
>At first my brother said that it was too high up to
>be an aircraft, the object was way way up there.
Hmmmm Once you get to 10,000 feet or so, there are simply no visual clues that can tell you how high they are. Your brother needs to be objective, or
reveal his secret that allows him to know something that most of us haven't a hope of determining.
>We've got visuals on at least 3 or more terrestrial
>satellietes and it was higher than those?
See above. If you can't quantify it or explain how you 'know' that, you're making a big call there...
>But after having spoken with you on that thread,
>apparently its almost a rarity to see Iridium flares.
Yep. As explained above, the Iridium *sats* aren't that rare - they look like normal satellites until they do the flare thing, and that only lasts a
few seconds. So to see an Iridium satellite isn't rare, but to see one flare..? VERY rare.
>I havent quite got up to speed with my >videocamera
>and besides which i still have
>an issue with color night view in that it records in >slowmotion (seemingly).
I suspect you may have simply hit the technology limit at that pricepoint. It may have to use a very slow shutter speed to get enough light to hit the
sensor. You can't fight physics, and you may need to resign yourself to not getting any better footage until you win the lottery and can afford a
video-capable DSLR or a large sensor videocam.
>That night i saw 3 and tracked 3 of them with >binoculars, one of them made a 45 degree turn at
Satellites don't make turns. Well, they can be maneuvred, but it's a slow process. So perhaps a high aircraft, or a genuine ufo (whatever that
means). A word of caution - if you are viewing overhead thru binocs or camera, it is very easy for you and your camera to 'turn' as you pan
overhead, giving a false impression of motion - so be careful of this trap!
>Most of the time we've seen them have been
>after nightfall between 12 at night and 4am in the
Well, that pretty much rules out satellites. At those hours, there would be NO sun rays overhead, just deep, infinite earth shadow. So nothing there
to light up satellites. No satellites carry illumination.
Next you have to try to rule out aircraft...
>I'm sure by the terms i've set out for myself, there
> is a quite logical explanation
Always deal with all credible ideas first, and after that...
>maybe an astrological phenomena
Please do not use that term in my earshot!
It's 'astronomical' (or atmospheric, i guess!) unless you genuinely mean some sort of planetary
alignment influencing your fortunes...
>for what it is I'm seeing, for reference i've included
> the youtube clip i referred to a while back.
Forgive me as i have to vanish for a while, but I'll revisit these a bit later and of there is anything else I can think of, I'll waffle on so more!
>Please dont bust my chops over this
I hope you don't think I'm doing that.. indeed if you think I'm being too hard, let me know. I can come over a bit 'terse' at times. But I am
impressed by the approach you are taking. Carry on, and I wish you Clear Skies!