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Jesus has been Ressurected

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posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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I have to add my $0.02.
Because that's about what it's worth.

Jesus was not a white (caucasian) man. He was Jewish.
That in itself is NOT a conspiracy.

The Shroud of Turin, according to scientists, IS real.
Real Blood, real stains. No conspiracy.
Scientists wanted proof of the authenticity of the Shroud.
Well, they have it.

Whether it was Jesus of Nazareth in the Shroud, is one's own opinion.
No one said you HAVE to believe it is.
It does seem to me that there is undeniable evidence of a crucified body put in the Shroud.

It matters not what any one single person believes.
Mankind stretches everything to fit his lifestyle.


So, in summary.
Everything you see and read is up to you to decide to believe it.

Period.





posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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I immediately thought, Is this how they will resurrect him?

They also spoke of the image being made through radiation and something about only light could have made it,

Is that Video available on line yet, I can't remember the details.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:21 AM
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It does seem to me that there is undeniable evidence of a crucified body put in the Shroud.


I'm convinced.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by havok
 



It does seem to me that there is undeniable evidence of a crucified body put in the Shroud.

I'm convinced.


I hope you are not being facetious.
My post was only to say that even secular scientists say for certainty there is.

[edit on 31-3-2010 by havok]



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:31 AM
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I believe that there is something special about the shroud, I doubted before,

I believe yes, it was a burial shroud, perhaps kept and preserved,

The followers of Christ would have been likely to do such a thing.

Now they found only the linen wrappings,

If the body was stolen wouldn't they have taken the wrappings with the body?

"So Peter and the other disciple went forth, and they were going to the tomb. The two were running together; and the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first; and stooping and looking in, he saw the linen wrappings lying there; but he did not go in. And so Simon Peter also came, following him, and entered the tomb; and he saw the linen wrappings lying there,"



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:33 AM
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I am just happy to discuss the subject, I just want to talk about it, I found the show very moving.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by havok
 

I am just happy to discuss the subject, I just want to talk about it, I found the show very moving.


Awesome, because I sense some sarcasm in this thread. (not from you)
The show was particularly moving, because I too, doubted the authenticity.

At least we have both sides agreeing on something. Secular vs. Believers.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Faiol
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just because a criminal named Jesus MAY have existed, doesnt mean he is related to GOD;



MAY?

There is no question that Jesus existed! The only question is his significance. Not whether or not he was a real person!

It amazes me that people would somehow eliminate the existence of a man in order to "prove" religion doesn't exist.


The historicity of Jesus concerns the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth. While scholars often draw a distinction between the Jesus of history and the Christ of faith, and while scholars further debate what can specifically be known concerning Jesus' character and ministry, essentially all scholars in the relevant fields agree that the mere historical existence of Jesus can be established using documentary and other evidence.


Link: en.wikipedia.org...



[edit on 31-3-2010 by lpowell0627]



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:44 AM
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prove to me jesus existed...

I have a birth certificate and I have "proof" I exist...

prove to me that hesus existed.....

links would be helpful.........

evilbible.com

peas



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Faiol
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


lol just stop

just because a criminal named Jesus MAY have existed, doesnt mean he is related to GOD.


Jesus the criminal?

Do you actually believe this tripe? Who taught you that one?

Never mind. I already know.

~ Zeus



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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The show was particularly moving, because I too, doubted the authenticity.


I am looking forward to the show being available on you-tube, that will add to the discussion.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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The fabulous stories of Jesus to which there is no scientific support, evidence or proof whatosever.

Jesus was born of a Virgin
Jesus's dad was GOD himself.
Jesus was resurrected after being dead for three days and ascended to heaven.

Or in other words the corpse went missing. Imagine that.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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I agree with you and Havok. Even though we have no proof that it is Him, there is proof that someone under that shroud was definitely crucified.
I keep going back and looking at Him, and every time I do, I am overwhelmed.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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wasnt he executed ? in that culture, he was a criminal, no? whatever

I wont discuss with people that live by a book;
I dont believe one book can answer all the questions, I dont believe a book can be interpreted in just one way, so thats why I dont get the whole movement, it doesnt make any sense;

I can have my own interpretation from the bible totality different from the mainstream view, since its a book and it all depends on the perspective;



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Faiol
reply to post by Zeus2573
 


wasnt he executed ? in that culture, he was a criminal, no? whatever


In my humble opinion, he was murdered.
He was innocent. He had done nothing wrong.
Oh, by the way I live by more than just a book.

As far as my feelings on this shroud of turin, this doesn't really prove anything. I'm on the fence about it.
Back then, crucifixion (being nailed to a cross) was common practice. Honestly, it could be anyone. My opinion on this is, the fact that the "modern day" scientist is making a big deal about it is a huge red flag to me. I smell deception.

Although to be nailed to a cross is the most extreme of crucifixion, there are many way's for a person to be crucified. To crucify means to treat cruelly.

In a way, the modern day Christians such as myself, are in fact being crucified in the name of Jesus Christ.

~ Zeus




[edit on 31-3-2010 by Zeus2573]



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by havok
 


I believe that there is something special about the shroud, I doubted before,

I believe yes, it was a burial shroud, perhaps kept and preserved,

The followers of Christ would have been likely to do such a thing.

Now they found only the linen wrappings,

If the body was stolen wouldn't they have taken the wrappings with the body?

"So Peter and the other disciple went forth, and they were going to the tomb. The two were running together; and the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first; and stooping and looking in, he saw the linen wrappings lying there; but he did not go in. And so Simon Peter also came, following him, and entered the tomb; and he saw the linen wrappings lying there,"


Wow, great point! If the shroud is really what Christ was buried in, then it would have undoubtedly been stolen along with the body.

But doubters will just say, "well they stole the body with the shroud then unwrapped it, discarded the body, then replaced the shroud in the tomb!"

Unbelievers will always deny it no matter what the evidence.
As for me...i believe.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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I thought I'd let you know, that in the documentary, they mention the fact that most often, people were not flogged and crucified.
As the story goes, Pilate did not want to crucify Christ, so he had him flogged, hoping that would appease the people, and when it did not, he had him crucified.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
there is proof that someone under that shroud was definitely crucified


And what would that proof be?

I surely don't see any evidence that someone was "definitely crucified" under that shroud.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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We are not called to live by a book. We are called to live in or by, the Spirit. It is our choice, each of us, whether we do or not.

If we choose to live by Spirit, we come to a point in our walk with God where the spiritual evidence for the Truth of the Risen Christ is undeniable!

This helps us to revisit the book with refreshed perspectives.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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Watch the show Sat., and it will explain it. I have no other source than the show. I do not know what sources they used.



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