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Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
Maybe...maybe not, thanks for the post - I think Ignorethefacts makes some fair points on this thread...although you may be right about his commentary getting a little colourful (and emotional) of late.
There's a question on that thread which I'd be very interested to hear the answer to - let's hope he responds to it.
First of all, because I am consistent with my postings you call me parrot-like? Who am I parroting?!? I'm consistent, the same as everyone else on here with their opinions. I guess we are all parroting ourselves. I look forward to reading your posts from now on to make sure you never say the same thing more than once.
It's called conviction. We all have it. It's called consistency. We all have it. You want me to change my mind on every thread I post in so as not to sound like a parrot? I would expect you to do the same. You post wishy-washy statements in almost every thread your in, too timid to commit to anything...afraid you will be too polarizing I guess, but I'm not running around calling you a parrot just because your consistent am I?
Originally posted by kidflash2008
That is a good point as I worked as a security guard and none of the cameras were hand held.
He advised that the UFO had been videotaped by a guard at the guardshack on NOVEMBER 24, 1994 (two weeks after the CLERMONT COUNTY RECORDING). He said that the situation was perceived as a security matter, and that the FAA was contacted and advised of the event.
He said I should make an FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) appeal with DOE (Department of Energy) to acquire the report on the incident.
Enclosed as an attachment was a large 11 x 17" sheet of paper bearing seven poor quality black & white images taken from a video camcorder. The date and time of the recording is tagged onto the video, and the information indicates the date as November 23, 1994 (the informant had earlier stated November 24) and the time listed is 5:48 a.m
I had contacted Mr. DALLAS at Fernald Security and announced the nature of my call. According to Mr. Dallas, Lt. Disney was unavailable until Wednesday, June 4. Dallas knew of the UFO sighting but was unsure of a report filed on the incident. Dallas said, "The guys on third shift made a claim and a videotape of a UFO sighting."
When asked whether or not the information would be retained with Fernald or Firmco, Mr. Dallas said, "It's all the same," adding that the records would be accessible to the public. "If they kept anything, whether it be videotape or written reports, you would be able to get that."
Days later I finally contacted Lieutenant Disney, who also confirmed hearing of the UFO sighting and to have seen photos. Disney said that he had heard stories of a "ball or something in the sky" that was photographed, but didn't know what had become of the material. He said he had seen the photos "floating around" from time to time.
Disney wasn't sure how available this information would be. The cameras used by the security staff are fixed cameras, but are moveable and remotely controlled from a monitor room.The information is recorded by means of a time-lapse recording system. When asked, he responded that the guards "do not use video camcorders and do not bring camcorders to work with them."
Regarding the videotape, she didn’t know if the Fernald security systems embed a date and time stamp onto their video recordings, but said she would find out for me. She said that the Fire & Safety people retain a personal camcorder at all times, and they may be the ones who recorded the video.
Dave Matthews, supervisor of the Hamilton County Communications Center, confirmed that the call was received and also furnished an ‘incident advisory’ which states the time and nature of the call, plus the name of the two officers that handled the report. A notation on the log states: ‘strange sphere with strange lights sighted over Fernald.
Inside the store, three passersby responded eagerly when asked for directions to Fernald. The clerk commented, "Just follow the glow."
This was greeted by some laughter and more jokes until I had humorously added, "Well, actually, we're looking for UFOs anyway."
"You may want to talk to some people at the Fire Department, I've heard they saw them," came the sober response. Although the clerk offered no specific details , he knew of information that could be acquired through the fire department.
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Some reason long ago UFOs and nuclear anything started to go hand in hand, and rumors have spread. Why? Most probably because someone made a giant leap of logic to connect Roswell and nuclear weapons... from that point, everyone and their mom started seeing UFOs next to nuclear facilities because they wanted to see that.
Originally posted by mckyle
Yes that's the Royce I mean He's a good guy, and I hope he comes back to Ufology after he has recharged his batteries. He is sorely needed.
As for Kenny, he contributed so much to Ufology: the Trumbull County UFO incident is a great one! As are many others.
I think you said something along the lines that this was not the best UFO case out there. I agree - but then again - how many 'great ones' are there?? Very few, if you use the scientific standard as a yard stick.
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from The Condon Report's content, namely, that a phenomenon with such a high ratio of unexplained cases (about 30 percent) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study."
"From a scientific and engineering standpoint, it is unacceptable to simply ignore substantial numbers of unexplained observations... the only promising approach is a continuing moderate-level effort with emphasis on improved data collection by objective means... involving available remote sensing capabilities and certain software changes."
Ronald D Story - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UFO Subcommittee -New York: Doubleday, 1980