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Pet Shop Owner Charged For Selling Gold Fish...

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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Her offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.





Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months.
The punishment is normally handed out to violent thugs and repeat offenders


Pretty amazing you are able to suffer from such a severe crime..for selling a GOLD FISH!

I think it's safe to say this is pretty..hm, what's the word I'm looking for...Insane.

Thoughts?
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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Wait...wait....you have to be over 16 to even buy a friggin' gold fish?! A GOLD FISH?! Not some rare aquatic pet but a goldfish. I find that more outlandish (but not much) that the punishment the woman got for selling the actual goldfish.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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I am tired of breaking this pic out but my God how are we allowing this stuff to happen?



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by GorehoundLarry



Her offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.





Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months.
The punishment is normally handed out to violent thugs and repeat offenders


Pretty amazing you are able to suffer from such a severe crime..for selling a GOLD FISH!

I think it's safe to say this is pretty..hm, what's the word I'm looking for...Insane.

Thoughts?
Source


Ahh Britain.

You were once great....just like we used to be as well.

Socialists have de-nutted both of our proud countries and turned us into laugh stocks.

Next, ten year olds wont be able to buy a super hero comic book because they portray violence against under funded villains.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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A perfect example of ludicrous legislation making criminals of ordinary people, and the unreasonableness of single perspectives (judges) in judgement and sentencing.

This judge was obviously a clown and out of touch with reality. Another might have said, dont do it again now you know its law, and left it at that.
Sentencing should also be a majority call of your peers, like jury duty.
12 people are extremely unlikely to vote in agreement of such a sentence for selling a goldfish. 'As you would be done by....


@ Lol ventian
, the image is apt!


[edit on 30-3-2010 by wayaboveitall]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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what the hell is wrong with the juries that vote on these cases? dont they have sympathy or even morality? you cant sue anyone over a goldfish!!!
whats wrong with people? if i was on that jury i would vote not guilty without a doubt





posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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I don't know, I'm pretty partial to that pic and it accurately sums up a lot of situations here on ATS haha.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Does England have juries?

I know if it happened here in the states, I would be taking it to trial.

Could you imagine a jury convicting? I cannot.

Jury nullification people, remember that.

A jury has the right to decide whether or not a statute is even lawful. It does not matter how the judge instructs you, it does not matter what high faluting bull# they say.

If a jury or even enough of the jury decides that a crime really has not been committed, you can decide not guilty.

For example, if you feel that someone possessing marijuana is not really harming anyone, you can find not guilty.

It is your right and your duty as a citizen of the US of A to make that determination. If you do not believe me, I will supply the SC decision and explanation.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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I am tired of breaking this pic out but my God how are we allowing this stuff to happen?


www.splcenter.org...

For the same reason THIS is allowed to happen?

I am considering moving way, WAY out of the US anyways- this crap makes me happy I dont live in the UK, and propels me out of my former 'home' country even faster..



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by ashanu90
what the hell is wrong with the juries that vote on these cases? dont they have sympathy or even morality? you cant sue anyone over a goldfish!!!
whats wrong with people? if i was on that jury i would vote not guilty without a doubt




There is no jury, She wasnt on trial. The prosecution shows its against a law, and the judge (magistrate) sentences, end of story.
See my post above.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by wayaboveitall]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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Welcome to Gorden Browns crazy messed up UK.... Good job there is an election in a few weeks..

But then again we will probably get Cameron


The craziness continues....

Im moving to Cairns...



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Good point. I love the hell out of my country but between the government, lawyers, and big corporations I have about had my share.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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I say LIFE IN PRISON, everyone knows you don't sell goldfish to under aged kids. gees



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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i was writing that before you posted your thing and i didnt see it otherwise i wouldnt have posted it. i see your point
so why is it that the judge can just do that? i think either he is sadistic, was payed to do it or just plain ignorant



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by ashanu90
reply to post by wayaboveitall
 


i was writing that before you posted your thing and i didnt see it otherwise i wouldnt have posted it. i see your point
so why is it that the judge can just do that? i think either he is sadistic, was payed to do it or just plain ignorant


More than likely he is just a judge exerting his power over the people, or he is legitimately scared of being sued by one of these insane environmental groups.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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I guess someone would get a death sentence for doing this...


[edit on 30-3-2010 by St-Patrick]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by GorehoundLarry



Her offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.





Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months.
The punishment is normally handed out to violent thugs and repeat offenders


Pretty amazing you are able to suffer from such a severe crime..for selling a GOLD FISH!

I think it's safe to say this is pretty..hm, what's the word I'm looking for...Insane.

Thoughts?
Source


Yhep, do'n Gods wurk I tell ya hwat.

I know this didn't happen in the U.S, but that is the attitude that must permeate law enforcement over there if this is a common example.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by warisover
I say LIFE IN PRISON, everyone knows you don't sell goldfish to under aged kids. gees




Right, you have to crack down on these octogenarian delinquents before they run wild with their shocking crimes.! This citizen votes 'Yes', on the Anti 'Granny Crime'
Bill !




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by ashanu90
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i was writing that before you posted your thing and i didnt see it otherwise i wouldnt have posted it. i see your point
so why is it that the judge can just do that? i think either he is sadistic, was payed to do it or just plain ignorant


Well its his perogative to weild his power any way he see's fit within the law itself, so its a matter of personal perspective when it comes down to one person making the descision. I dont agree with that.
It's become quite common, judges being seen as out of touch with reality, or/and biased in their judgements, abuse of power, as I beleive this was, certainly.
Paid or coercrced otherwise, is another matter, I dont know, I think this bloke was just having a really bad day, or had a few too many expresso's on the way to court!



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