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Hitler’s and Obama’s health enabling acts

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:38 PM
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Yea, Hitler sure did give all the Jewish people great healthcare while they were in the concentration camps.

Yup, the similarities are astounding!


If you stretched it far enough, you could compare Obama to anyone: Ceasar, Napoleon, Clinton, Carter, Ghandi, Mother Theresa.
Its like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

If there is one thing I give the conservatives, it is tenacity.

They think if they throw Fascist or communist or socialist in the same sentence with democrats enough, they can brainwash people.

Either that or I am convinced they get a nickel kickback every time they say it.




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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Well,I wish I had a nickle for every post that attempts to deflect from those same coincidences!

Good point about the health coverage and the concentration camps!
You just scored one for making my point,even though you meant it sarcastically.

Thanks for the comment.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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The Enabling Act of 1933 and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, literally, have nothing in common. OK, ok, they both have the word 'act'. The Enabling Act was signed by Hindenburg, given absolute power to the NAZI party, Hitler was their leader, thus giving him absolute power...now, let's take that in a similiar sense;
If the President of the United States, Barack Obama, signed some law giving absolute power to the leader of the Democratic party he'd be giving power to Tim Kaine, the DNC Chairman.

You do realize German socialized health care started in 1883, only in 1975 did coverage extend to every last German citizen, right? In fact, Hitler allowed workers whose pay exceeded a certain amount to buy private insurance in 1941...a practice still in use today. Not very socialist, is it?

Note: I'm purposely ignoring the matching dates and religious aspects of your post because I'm neither religious nor do I believe in the significance of a particular date having to do with occurrences on the anniversary of said date. If so I could say the signing of the recent health care legislation was due to the Gemini 3 mission in 1965...or Patrick Henry's speech in 1775, "Give me liberty, or give me death."



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:23 AM
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I think you may be missing the forrest for the trees,but thanks for your comment.

You do know that his health care bill disregards the Constitution by leaps and bounds,right?

And Obama does pretty much hold the power of the Democratic party,right?



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
reply to post by links234
 


I think you may be missing the forrest for the trees,but thanks for your comment.


Maybe I am.


You do know that his health care bill disregards the Constitution by leaps and bounds,right?


I'm not an expert on constitutional law, so no...I don't see any aspect of the bill disregarding the constitution 'by leaps and bounds.'


And Obama does pretty much hold the power of the Democratic party,right?


The most powerful party member is not the most powerful in the party. Otherwise I could say that John Boehner runs the Republican party, but he doesn't.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus

Originally posted by Miraj
Because nobody has used Hitler vilify a politician before! You must be right! Obama is the reincarnation of Hitler!


Haha exactly. All you do when you start calling people Hitler is concede you have nothing of real substance to argue. It's an assertion purely based on paranoia and ignorance.


No one is calling Obama "Hitler",but to not see the similarities is to choose to look the other way.

Your choice.


Do you not see that when all politics fails, people just compare another to Hitler in lieu of reality?

What similiarities? Hitler came into power and began to revive Germany. Obama got into power and he is helping bankers shoot America! People respected Hitler, how many respect Obama?



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
You do know that his health care bill disregards the Constitution by leaps and bounds,right?


I am not a fan of the bill and I believe it to be a highly suspected one.

But where sir, is this bill, does it disregard the Constitution by 'leaps and bounds"....



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by ZombieOctopus

Originally posted by Miraj
Because nobody has used Hitler vilify a politician before! You must be right! Obama is the reincarnation of Hitler!


Haha exactly. All you do when you start calling people Hitler is concede you have nothing of real substance to argue. It's an assertion purely based on paranoia and ignorance.


Gee did you read the article? I almost dismissed it when I read the title and moved on but I read the article and was astonished. I did not know this and it is quite disturbing. I did notice in the campaign that Obama had the ability to mesmerise most of his audience but just chalked it up to brain dead sheeple. Now this information is pretty creepy and a significant development that can't be ignored.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by On the Edge
You do know that his health care bill disregards the Constitution by leaps and bounds,right?


I am not a fan of the bill and I believe it to be a highly suspected one.

But where sir, is this bill, does it disregard the Constitution by 'leaps and bounds"....


There are 17 enumerated powers listed in the constitution given to the federal government. None of them include mandating health care much less forcing individual Americans to buy health insurance. The bill itself is completely outside the scope of authority granted to congress and the federal government.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:15 AM
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None of the 17 enumerated powers don't include mandating health care or purchasing health insurance.

I was going to attempt to read the articles because, previously, I was addressing the OP directly. "Canada Free Press...because without America there is no free world."

Wow...just wow...is that just a way of saying, "I love America but I don't want to give up my socialist Canadian system"?

That article goes on to claim Hitler promised health care for all...well, newsflash, Germans already had health care for all...I mentioned earlier he made the wealthiest Germans exempt from the socialized health care, whereas Obama doesn't. Also, the article states 'President Hitler', Hitler was Chancellor, Hindenburg was the president.

Both articles pull on misrepresentations and historical perceptions to make non-existent connections between the worst person of the 20th century and Obama, who has only been in power for a year.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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"Is health-care reform constitutional?"

www.autoinsuranceviews.com...

I know...it's from an auto insurance site,but they make a good case!



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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IT'S TRUE!



I guess all we have to look forward to is the gas chambers at this point!



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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You know, just because you feel a need to put Hitler and Obama side by side doesn't make them alike.

Maybe you should read your own material, past the title, and get a grasp of just how absurd the whole premise is.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:41 AM
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Yep,you're catching on!

Thanks for the comment.

Sarcasm aside,you help make my point!



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
"Is health-care reform constitutional?"

www.autoinsuranceviews.com...

I know...it's from an auto insurance site,but they make a good case!


The article also illustrates how congress acts outside it scope even in there excuse of using the commerce clause.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:56 AM
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Just one fly in the ointment as far as I am concerned, that after WW2, Britain's PM Clement Attlee got into power on his drive to "Build a New Jerusalem" in Britain, which gave rise to Healthcare for all in Britain.


When Labour health minister Nye Bevan opened one of the world's first and most comprehensive health services to the British people on July 5, 1948, it was the realisation of a socialist dream. The new National Health Service (NHS) was the cornerstone of the post-war Labour government's commitment to build a new Jerusalem in an impoverished Britain, painfully recovering from six years of war.


Equating socialist goals to major atrocities, or the extermination of the Jews is silly and pointless.

As for the socialism part, I can't see anything Socialist in Obama, he has none of the traits, the passion or the drive of real socialist figures like Attlee or Bevan.

To be honest all I see US healthcare as is a tool to get depper into the wallets of the masses so the big corps make even more money..

IMHO there is nothing socialist about that..



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:58 AM
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"Congress acts outside its scope" = "they're democrats so I'm going to complain"



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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after reading the article and some of the replies, I get it. no obama is not going to kill 6 million americans. is there potential for him to tread on the constitution, yes. I think alot of what the op is getting at is the similarities of the public's response to hitler/obama. millions of sheeple line up to defend whatever obama does. there is potential in that to be really evil, but I don't see him taking advantage of it yet.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 04:36 AM
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Hey,I didn't write the articles,I'm just putting them out here for people to make of it what they will.

I never said,"He's going to kill all the Jews"....

However,with the Indefinite Detention laws he passed,among other things,I do not like what this president is capable of.

Time will tell.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 04:55 AM
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I very much doubt they built them FEMA camps for the fun of it!



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