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The Writer of the Health Care Bill is Confirmed

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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The GOP, while their politicians played the game of "broken record" or "endless loop", let Republican Dick Armey's Freedom Works co-opt and work up the TPM to shout what their celebrities such as Palin, Rush, and Beck told them to. Thus the TPM "death panel" assured the death of single payer and public option.


You have got to read this thread desert. It's being ignored by and large. "Someone336" has added some incredible information to this as well.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 30-3-2010 by David9176]




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:05 PM
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More to it,

The original Senate Finance Committee bill was authored by a former Wellpoint VP. Since Congress released the first of its health care bills on October 30, 2009, health care stocks have risen 28.35%]

Then here comes one of the blunders,

The Max Tax: Baucus Plan Fails to Control Growth of Insurance Premiums


Democrats have shied away from regulating premiums in the face of charges from business leaders and Republicans that controlling what insurers charge would be meddling too much in the private sector.

As a result, while states have long supervised what companies charge for mandated automobile and homeowners insurance, the idea has been largely banished from the health care debate. . . .

Nor are lawmakers seriously considering any proposals to regulate what doctors, hospitals, drug makers and other health care providers charge — a strategy used by several European countries to control health care spending


You are right David, Socialization my butt, this was the propaganda to kill the public option that would have actually help many Americans and take away the private insurance monopolies.

fdlaction.firedoglake.com...



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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I am disgusted with this....

And btw - The corporate take over of the US government was pretty much completed by the end of the Viet Nam "police action." We were warned... more than once.

But hey, on the bright side.... uh .... never mind.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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You are right David, Socialization my butt, this was the propaganda to kill the public option that would have actually help many Americans and take away the private insurance monopolies.


And instead of embolding the American people...we emboldened the them. We only got what the health insurance industry and big pharma wanted to give up.

And that IS the truth. Republicans won't fight either industry. They won't even do it now...

[edit on 30-3-2010 by David9176]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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Thank god Obama stuck to his pledge to get special interests out of Washington. Where would we be now if he didn't? He had some really good rhetoric to be the average everyday politician.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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That is because the promise that people got of "free health care", they got obfuscated by" Universal health care", they got lied to with "subsidized health care", for everybody with government help.

The only ones that are helping themselves with is private insurances with tax payer money.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by whattheh
This has been a payoff to the Health care industry all along. No surprise a health insurance company wrote the start of it.


I totally agree.

Unless we up the Medicare/Medicaid payouts for Primary Care Physicians and inact Insurance and Tort refom, it's just more business as usual.

In fact, it's just a Health Care Industry bailout.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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well I am not a socialist -

But in this case, the case of this bill I really wish they would have brassed up and went for the universal plan - opt in style -

Nobodies hurt - everyone has a choice

Fricking Obama shot himself in the sack walking the line trying to please everyone, more importantly he shot us there too...

At least the socialism cries would be truthful, which would rise Americas collective IQ
tremendously



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Actually that is the goal of Obama, he wants to make Medicare the biggest insurance for those that can not be mandate into private insurances.

It was a bailout, but when the financial crisis and the tax payer bailout of the rich and wealthy, a bailout ot insurance would have been too much for the people.

So what a way to get away with gouging the tax payer.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:34 PM
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This is from a Conservative website:

Obscene Health Insurance Company Profits for 2009



The top five health insurance companies reported an average profit margin of 5.2% for 2009. Wellpoint had the highest profit margin racking up a 7.6% in profits. Humana’s 3.4% profit was the lowest for the top 5 health insurance companies.



conservativepatriothq.com...

I guess they needed more!

Well point was the HIGHEST EARNER last year of all the insurance companies!




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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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Whatever happened to the anti-trust issue? Seems it quietly went away.


Two proposals for stricter antitrust enforcement in the health care industry did not make the cut for the final heath care overhaul package unveiled Thursday. Both proposals faced procedural hurdles.

One proposal would have banned brand-name drug manufacturers from making payments to keep competing drugs off the market; the other would have repealed a 1940s law that exempts health insurers from some federal antitrust scrutiny. Both proposals have been offered as stand-alone bills, and have made it part-way through the legislative process.


www.mainjustice.com...



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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Hey no surprises here, anybody that was following the Baucus bill last year knew better.

Why oh my American keeps a blind eye to politicraps and their deals in Washington?.

Top 5 companies, let learn their names very well because they will be the ones controlling Americas health care all over the nation.

Humana (Tricare) Happens to be mostly government subsidized health care for the retirees and military, because they are actually controlled by government on how they charge and are allowed to charge, profits coming from the Military and retirees are hard to achieve.

Then again I can be mistaken.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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IMO, it just goes to show that no matter who is elected, they all work for the CorpGov.


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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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At least the socialism cries would be truthful, which would rise Americas collective IQ tremendously


And that has to change!! People keep repeating garbage from Sean Hannity and Fox News....and it's NOT TRUE.

The only way to get good health care for the majority of this country is to go with a public option IMO.

For as much as I don't want it to go that route...it has become the only option...but quite frankly...it's going to be impossible to do it without campaign finance reform....and for God's sakes everyone...WE HAVE TO FIX OUR TRADE LAWS!!!!

Outsourcing is still happening NOW...even though taxes have gone down consistently for the rich since Reagan. Both parties trashed our trade laws and put our economy on life support....yet we keep following the same policies...this is crazy!!!!

We cannot cut taxes low enough to compete with slave labor without destroying our standard of living!!!

WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND!?!?!?!!?!?!



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:44 PM
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My dear, what else can come from a bill written by private insurance companies.

See that is why after the passing of the bill I kept telling people that this was a failure to the tax payer because the insurance companies were not and never be regulated.

There you have the prof of why they didn't.



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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:48 PM
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Whatever happened to the anti-trust issue? Seems it quietly went away.


They won't touch it....which is another reason why our government has grown so corrupted. Big Business is too big...has too much money...and therefore can dictate and essentially run our government. This is why Wall Street is sitting pretty while the rest of us struggle.

I do hope Obama realizes that if he taxes the rich more...he will have to increase tariffs to offset them leaving the country.

If he does not do it...we are all FOOKED.

Outsourcing is still happening now. What happened to corporate "love" of their country?

Why leave us high and dry when we need help the most???



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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Never mind

edited for pointlessness

[edit on 30-3-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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David, I went here....
www.abovetopsecret.com....

....
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EVERYONE needs to read it. Spend 10 days reading and digesting it if you have to, but READ it!!



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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Instead of got em's and platitudes we need to look at our interests, governments here so are we, so is insurance. Lets start with what we have and make it work for US, this is ALL for US -


Amen.


If we don't come together soon...if people can't break through the BS barrier....then we might as well GIVE UP NOW.

If we are truly as great of a country as we all claim to be...NOW is the time to prove it. NOW is the time to stand up FOR US. If we are the greatest pinnacle the world has supposedly seen....then GOD ******** WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Grayelf2009
I don't think it matters who wrote it...what matters is who voted yes for it. Is there a link for this list? Yoda voice insert Search I will ...I voted Yes for Health Care

If this list is to be believed than NONE of the Dems that voted yes are in danger in 2010...I know that can't be right.


edited to add that I just saw it was a NY Times piece

no wonder

talk about delusional


[edit on 30-3-2010 by joey_hv]



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