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The Writer of the Health Care Bill is Confirmed

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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ANd you'll never believe who it was...

Was it a communist socialist? Marxist maybe? I know...it just HAD to be Chairman Mao's ghost...

NOPE..

NONE OF THOSE.

It was Liz Fowler.

Who is that you say????

She's the former VP of Wellpoint and was hired under Baucus to write the basis of the bill.....

Check out Wellpoint.com. www.wellpoint.com...

Baucus Thanks Wellpoint VP Liz Fowler for Writing Health Care Bill






I wish to single out one person, and that one person is sitting next to me. Her name is Liz Fowler. Liz Fowler is my chief health counsel. Liz Fowler has put my health care team together. Liz Fowler worked for me many years ago, left for the private sector, and then came back when she realized she could be there at the creation of health care reform because she wanted that to be, in a certain sense, her profession lifetime goal. She put together the White Paper last November–2008–the 87-page document which became the basis, the foundation, the blueprint from which almost all health care measures in all bills on both sides of the aisle came. She is an amazing person. She is a lawyer; she is a Ph.D. She is just so decent. She is always smiling, she is always working, always available to help any Senator, any staff. I thank Liz from the bottom of my heart. In many ways, she typifies, she represents all of the people who have worked so hard to make this bill such a great accomplishment.



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OMG IT"S SOCIALIZED MEDICINE....NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll leave the rest to you guys. I wonder if there stocks have gone up....will she return to her old company??? HMMM....how about a lobbyist once again?

Check out these threads:

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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[edit on 30-3-2010 by David9176]



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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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No offence but do you believe everything they tell you? The truth is sometimes not so simple and clear. And I bet we are not going to see a clear picture on this one now or ever.


And in reality it does not matter who wrote it. The facts still remain the facts. This bill is bad for many reasons but the main problem I have with it has to do with personal freedom.


The only reason we are seeing new health care reform is because f the baby boomers it would have crashed the system with so many of them getting premium care. So they needed a way to weed them out. This is the truth and no amount of spin will change it.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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No offence but do you believe everything they tell you?


Only when Glen Beck tells me...then I know it is truth.




And in reality it does not matter who wrote it. The facts still remain the facts. This bill is bad for many reasons but the main problem I have with it has to do with personal freedom.


Who exactly is trying to take your freedoms?



The only reason we are seeing new health care reform is because f the baby boomers it would have crashed the system with so many of them getting premium care. So they needed a way to weed them out. This is the truth and no amount of spin will change it.


Source please.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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I don't think it matters who wrote it...what matters is who voted yes for it. Is there a link for this list? Yoda voice insert Search I will ...I voted Yes for Health Care


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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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So...she's the head of a health insurance company.

Big surprise there


Country + Corporation merger COMPLETE.

(thx for posting)



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Just to add some links to your info ^_^.

Elizabeth J. Fowler PHD, JD

Edit to take out WellPoint site url, was already posted in OP ^_^.

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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I don't think it matters who wrote it...what matters is who voted yes for it. Is there a link for this list? Yoda voice insert Search I will ...I voted Yes for Health Care


You can vote them all out....it won't matter. Not when the ones who fill the seats are still being lobbied by corporate powerhouses that don't give a S about the little man. Term limits will change nothing but the faces of corruption. The lobbyists writing the bills behind the scenes will remain hidden and will continue to go in/out of the revolving door.

We need CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! We have to have it or it will never matter.

Quite honestly, if this was a Republican President....Republicans would have passed it as well. That is why none of them are criticizing the health insurance industry or big pharma.....and they can't after all...they've been defending them for the last year!

So they will stay silent and just call it socialized medicine and hope to gain seats in 2010.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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She played a key role in the 2003 Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act (MMA).


WOW.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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Again with the Glen Beck did you know that you are the only one I ever hear about him from. Kinda ironic dont you think. And I think the progressives are making a play at power just like they did during WW2. Look around and see what the change really means. I doubt it is what you want.

Less freedom and more war is not a good thing. If your guy Obama truly wanted to change things why would he keep fighting the wars? And why would he sign the patriot act? They have lied to you and yet you still do not see it.


Bush=Obama prove me wrong.

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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I think that Obama=BushX3.

Spending wise anyway.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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This has been a payoff to the Health care industry all along. No surprise a health insurance company wrote the start of it.

The drug companies helped write a little. There is a 12 year protection for drug companies that bans all generics for 12 years after a drug comes out. Now is that suppose to lower drug costs? No it will increase them.

The insurance companies got congress to take the elderly off their hands because they were costing them too much money. That was Medicare.

Then they realized that if they get the healthy to pay, they will again increase their profits. So now everyone has to buy insurance. So they now get the healthy which are mostly all profit to have to buy insurance.

Medicaid was restricting how much they would pay, so they got congress to to drop federal funds for it and make the states pay for more of it. We are laying off teachers cause we can't afford them. So now Medicaid will drop and they will get everyone to pay them whatever they want to charge.

Pre-existing conditions with no price cap simply means they will charge you 100 thousand a month. All they have to do is cover you, no one said what they could charge.

Scam Scam Scam!

My brother and his wife recently had a baby. He was laid off and they were only working her part time. So Medicaid paid all of the costs. No out of pocket at all. WIC covered baby food.

I hate to break it to you all but we had healthcare for the poor already.

But they told us all how many people didn't have insurance and that we needed them to be covered by the greedy medical insurance companies.

They told us it was reform but in reality it should be called the anti-generic drug bill and the insurance mandate bill.

this is not socialized medicine!!!!

This is capitalism at it worst. The greed has taken over to no end. 2 Trillion dollars a year was not enough. They wanted more people paying them and less getting covered by the government. And they got it!



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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Well are you going to answer my simple questions? Or are you taking the 5th on this one?



It is funny just how big this glass house has become. I ask myself when will you see the simple truth? The wars still wage the economy is really bad and they do nothing and they sign our freedoms away with the patriot act. Is this the change you wanted?

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 04:05 PM
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Wasting your time ST
Facisim looks good to some or else it wouldnt exist in the first place.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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If your guy Obama truly wanted to change things why would he keep fighting the wars? And why would he sign the patriot act? They have lied to you and yet you still do not see it.


How the hell is he my guy? Where the hell do I go around promoting Obama on this website?

I've criticized him constantly ON BOTH ISSUES. I did NOT vote for him.



Bush=Obama prove me wrong.


For the most part....yep. This is the kind of bill Bush would have done...and REpublicans would have voted FOR it.

Obama is running around the country criticizing the health insurance industry EVEN THOUGH he cut deals with them (he would have never gotten the votes without them)....and the insurance companies/big pharma themselves stay silent...ALONG WITH REPUBLICANS.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Anything that forces people to do something whether it's mandatory vaccinations or getting insurance is CORRUPT and WILL be taken advantage of by Fortune 500 Companies.

The world is already run by corrupt individuals, so what makes anyone think any new bills and legislations would be fair?

This is like your local pedophile trying to run the day care center, which by the way is a true story with the Child Protective Services who kidnap kids and sell them to the highest bidder. (Search Senator Nancy Schaefer who was just murdered a few days ago because of her information about C.P.S)

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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I already thought there were too many give-aways to the insurance giants; this just confirms it.

Of course, the whole bill was not written by one person. There were many authors of many different parts. That doesn't mean most of it wasn't written by lobbyists from various corporations, however.

My philosophy thus far has been that some progress is better than no progress at all. Now I'm not so sure.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
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Bush=Obama prove me wrong.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by Subjective Truth]


FOX NEWS SOLD BUSH'S AGENDA AND WAS KEY IN MAINTAINING PUBLIC SUPPORT
FOR THE patriot act, GITMO, FISA, 2 WARS, Rendition Etc...

GLENN BECKS PAYCHECK, SCRIPT WRITERS = FOX

FOX = BUSH'S AGENDA

SO if?


BUSH=OBAMA

then...

You need to stop watching FOX my friend, for the 20th time, you want freedom, free yourself



[edit on 30-3-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Thanks David for that we all know that after the baucus bill was passed in October their stocks got a boost.

I posted the link of the HCR to the lawyers of Private insurance companies every time I could.

But still people doesn't believe it.

Now is time to show who rules in America.

Private insurance companies lawyers wrote the bill that is now to be ram up to every tax payer and hard working America in this nation.

We all know who is to benefit from it is not you or me



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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Baucus thanking her....excuse me while I puke....
,,,,you old fool, Max!!

Contrary to protestations of needing more time, the health care debate has been going on since 1993. What LizMax did was to provide a softer landing for the insurance industry, when health care reform looked like it would be a real possibility.

The GOP, while their politicians played the game of "broken record" or "endless loop", let Republican Dick Armey's Freedom Works co-opt and work up the TPM to shout what their celebrities such as Palin, Rush, and Beck told them to. Thus the TPM "death panel" assured the death of single payer and public option.

While there are a few good things that came out of the reform, it is shameful that the Dems and GOP played good cop/bad cop in the charade of HCR.

As long as politicians accept lobbyists money (or corporate assistance for which they need to thank!!), or corporate "grass roots" groups sway citizens' minds, Americans will never have the health care they deserve.



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