CNN Opinion Piece calls OathKeepers "HATRIOTS"

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I watch them all. I often wonder what logic people use when they limit their information sources. No logic at all it would seem. To lazy to learn I guess.

They all have their trapped audience who don't know any better. That's why they have these emotional, one sided shows; to trap people for ratings.

Watch them all. Check out what they say and never take their word for it. Assume they are lying until you know otherwise. Otherwise, why bother watching anything?

As a retired police officer, military veteran, and concerned citizen, I believe the members of Oath Keepers have crossed a significant line and violated their own oaths of duty. Oath Keepers who are members of the military should be immediately discharged, as they can no longer uphold their obligations. Alternatively, they should be court martialed for treason and sentenced appropriately.

Oath Keepers who are employed as police officers, sheriff's deputies, or other public safety personnel should be immediately terminated from their position. Taking the Oath Keepers pledge places them in direct conflict with the Peace Officer Code of Ethics, and therefore makes them unqualified to have such authority.

I know the Oath Keepers will claim that they are just supporting the Constitution, but their pledge proves otherwise. These people can't be trusted with any level of official authority or power. They are likely to eventually violate their official obligations, and it would not be surprising if they were found to be diverting firarms, ammunition, and other ordnance from their branch or agency into the hands of some extremist groups.

I find it incredible that some people here don't understand that by using terms such as hatriots or libtards or any other derogetory label is an attempt to diminish the message being sent by those groups or individuals. If you can't legitimatly attack the idea then you attack the person or the group. It's a trick that everyone learns on the playground in school and continues to sway many people opinions throughout thier lifetime.

reply to post by SkippingDog



That's bull. It is perfectly legal to belong to a militia. Just because you are a member of a militia does not constitute an attempt to overthrow the government. I doubt you are a poliice officer, propbably just a troll who is saying that to legitamize his opinion.

Originally posted by SkippingDog
As a retired police officer, military veteran, and concerned citizen, I believe the members of Oath Keepers have crossed a significant line and violated their own oaths of duty. Oath Keepers who are members of the military should be immediately discharged, as they can no longer uphold their obligations. Alternatively, they should be court martialed for treason and sentenced appropriately.

First comment on the forum and you state this? What exactly is this oath of duty? You do know that most officers of the government and all the men in the military are sworn to uphold the Constitution?

Oath Keepers who are employed as police officers, sheriff's deputies, or other public safety personnel should be immediately terminated from their position. Taking the Oath Keepers pledge places them in direct conflict with the Peace Officer Code of Ethics, and therefore makes them unqualified to have such authority.

Please show us this POCofE. Does it say anything about reaffirming ones oath to the Constitution. If it does not, what is your purpose here?

I know the Oath Keepers will claim that they are just supporting the Constitution, but their pledge proves otherwise. These people can't be trusted with any level of official authority or power. They are likely to eventually violate their official obligations, and it would not be surprising if they were found to be diverting firarms, ammunition, and other ordnance from their branch or agency into the hands of some extremist groups.

Next you claim Oathkeepers will divert equipment. What again exactly is your purpose here?

Wow, I believe we just found another CIP.

Please give links to anything you have asserted here. Please, we want to know your vast knowledge and intellect you espouse here. Really, we are all interested in your viewpoint.

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

Larry, you are assuming that these "patriot groups" are republicans. My guess is that these are largley 3rd party supporters. For you to still be falling for or preaching a democrat/republican paradigm is quite naive IMO.

If T-Rex and Bimbo Hockey Mom MILF were running this country, I assure you, these douchebags would not be forming "militias." Instead, they'd be glad bowing down to grandpa McCain.

reply to post by endisnighe

Here here! That was beautiful. I'm sure there will be no response.

reply to post by GorehoundLarry

Prove it. You can't. You've got nothing.

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by Lilitu

 

Which constitutional right would be violated were his employer to fire him?

That is beside the point. He was paid for an opinion piece which he had probably already written. They no doubt already knew his sentiments with regard to "wingnuts" prior to paying him.

This isn't going to go away you know. Expect more of this. Much more. The Hatriots have made their bed and now they are going to have to sleep in it. Sleep with the dogs, wake up with the fleas.

reply to post by Lilitu

Judging by the responses on this and other forums I've got to say that the wingnuts are not hurting for support. The desire to have the government live up to and be limited by the constitution is definetly striking a chord among mainstream america. If you don't believe it check the ratings out for the news chanells. The more conservative your message the higher your ratings. The guy that wrote the article and liberal parrots are the wingnuts here.

reply to post by Lilitu


Glad to see one of the Coffee drinkers is here to teach us logic.

You state one thing and then when called on it you do what? "Well that is beside the point".

No really, back pedal much?

Then to start spouting hate and drivel created to disparage anyone not following your doctrine of idiocy.

Classic!

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

Prove it. You can't. You've got nothing.

o...kay....


Prove that most tea party "protesters" and "militia" members would be McCain supporters?

Where were they when a Republican was in office? Where were they where Bush was removing liberty after liberty?

Ohhhh yeah, Democrats are Socialists...and Marxists..and Nazis..and Fascists...and Communists. Yep, they all somehow fit Obama according to Glenn Beck followers. Are these individuals retarded? Most likely.



[edit on 30-3-2010 by GorehoundLarry]

reply to post by GorehoundLarry
Stockpiling ammo.
I can't speak for all of them but personally I was not a supporter of Bush and have been voting 3rd party for years.
Are you really under the impression that militias are a new thing? The militia movement is as old as our nation and the constitution. The fact that the powers that be are fretting about it now should give you an indication or THIER intentions not the militias.

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by Lilitu

 

Judging by the responses on this and other forums I've got to say that the wingnuts are not hurting for support. The desire to have the government live up to and be limited by the constitution is definetly striking a chord among mainstream america. If you don't believe it check the ratings out for the news chanells. The more conservative your message the higher your ratings. The guy that wrote the article and liberal parrots are the wingnuts here.

Get real! If you weren't a minority Obama wouldn't be POTUS and Democrats wouldn't have control of Capitol Hill.

reply to post by endisnighe


It is beside the point for the reason I have already stated.

Originally posted by SkippingDog
They are likely to eventually violate their official obligations, and it would not be surprising if they were found to be diverting firarms, ammunition, and other ordnance from their branch or agency into the hands of some extremist groups.

If the current situation doesn't resolve itself peacefully and democratically, this activity you describe here would mean that things have gotten way more tense between WTP and the USG. It would mean these members of law enforcement have chosen a side. I, for one, would applaud them.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

Prove it. You can't. You've got nothing.

o...kay....


Prove that most tea party "protesters" and "militia" members would be McCain supporters?

Where were they when a Republican was in office? Where were they where Bush was removing liberty after liberty?

Ohhhh yeah, Democrats are Socialists...and Marxists..and Nazis..and Fascists...and Communists. Yep, they all somehow fit Obama according to Glenn Beck followers. Are these individuals retarded? Most likely.



[edit on 30-3-2010 by GorehoundLarry]

Militias have always been around. Do you recall all of the crap Bush took from ALL sides when he was in office? Ohhh, you conveniently FORGOT? How many people on ATS think the patriot act was a good thing?

Typical of a liberal to resort to name-calling.

Originally posted by SkippingDog
As a retired police officer, military veteran, and concerned citizen, I believe the members of Oath Keepers have crossed a significant line and violated their own oaths of duty. Oath Keepers who are members of the military should be immediately discharged, as they can no longer uphold their obligations. Alternatively, they should be court martialed for treason and sentenced appropriately.

Oath Keepers who are employed as police officers, sheriff's deputies, or other public safety personnel should be immediately terminated from their position. Taking the Oath Keepers pledge places them in direct conflict with the Peace Officer Code of Ethics, and therefore makes them unqualified to have such authority.

I know the Oath Keepers will claim that they are just supporting the Constitution, but their pledge proves otherwise. These people can't be trusted with any level of official authority or power. They are likely to eventually violate their official obligations, and it would not be surprising if they were found to be diverting firarms, ammunition, and other ordnance from their branch or agency into the hands of some extremist groups.

Really why don't you point out specifically what in the Oath Keepers Pledge violates thier obligations and why? You make so very grievous accusations of treason and ethics violations etc. so back them up!

The very invention of this new slang term "hatriot" is concocted to label anyone who disagrees with government policies as a "hater" by it's very definition. Buzz words like this are very strong subliminal messages connecting two opposite ideas with the only realistic goal of creating confusion.

If I ever heard a neo-conservative Orwellian term, this is it.

I don't want to hear this word ever again. Shame on the MSM. If Anderson Cooper says this, he is a sell out.

For SHAME!

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

Prove it. You can't. You've got nothing.

o...kay....


Prove that most tea party "protesters" and "militia" members would be McCain supporters?

Where were they when a Republican was in office? Where were they where Bush was removing liberty after liberty?

Ohhhh yeah, Democrats are Socialists...and Marxists..and Nazis..and Fascists...and Communists. Yep, they all somehow fit Obama according to Glenn Beck followers. Are these individuals retarded? Most likely.



[edit on 30-3-2010 by GorehoundLarry]

Militias have always been around. Do you recall all of the crap Bush took from ALL sides when he was in office? Ohhh, you conveniently FORGOT? How many people on ATS think the patriot act was a good thing?

Typical of a liberal to resort to name-calling.

Typical of name calling? I'm not a liberal but thank you for the compliment

And No, these morons would not be complaining about McCain in office. They'd be happy they have a white Republican running the country.

But...since we have a black Democrat, the ill minded mentally unhealthy gun waving right wingers are going crazy.

Bitter is the word that comes to mind.