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A comment on one of my other posts influenced me to write this article about acceptance for value (A4V), or using your birth certificate to pay your bills.
Huh? Did he just say “using your birth certificate to pay your bills?”
That’s right folks, apparently you can use numbers off of your birth certificate to pay your bills.
Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
Looks like it's a Canadian thing. Least that's what I gather due to the "legal agreement" stating The Bank of Canada.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Did you see that comment that guy made?
This is a trick. Like a carrot on a stick.
That carrot is not worth giving up every last argument you have for your own freedom, now is it??
Originally posted by Foranki
Star and flag.
I've seen this before too. Hopefully we can get some more info to see if it is legit.
Regan May 3, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I was reading the response letters to 96 is your fix, and thought they were interesting. I realise this post is old, and you may already have the info you need but here is my 2 cents anyway.
#1 What documentation did your friend send in?
#2 The birth certificate alone is not enough to set off dept, after sending the B.Cert
to the minister of finance/ treasury, you must aslo send in a set off bond and aslo an indemnity bond for good measure, then you will use the set off bond to set off dept. the process is alot more involved then this, and requires an administrative procedure to have the treasuries acceptance. after these things are in place an administrative procedure is required for each A4V so it is recomended that you bundle a bunch together to cut down on the cost of completing your admin procedure. If your looking for sucess stories and process info download the Creditors in commerce audio class sessions for free at creditors in commerce.com. you can also download all relevant forms and examples. there are many living men and women who are continuing to have 100% sucess with the A4V process, but it requires a good deal of study and knoledge of the process involved.
#4 If no one will accept your birth cert. with bankers acceptance in canada, lodge it with the U.S. treasury, as they are used to it over there.
#5 call Canada Revenue Agency and ask them what department you send set offs to, this is where you send A4vs, but they will require a fee for processing them, so you need the right form so they can access your bond and pay themselves. some people have sucess sending ther A4vs to the cheif financial officer of whatever corporation you get the alleged bill from, because the C.F.O has the ability to act on the private side, but you will likely only recive a response from someone else in the corporation, but if they keep the a4v and only give some lame response then they have been paid, and it’s only a matter of expressing this and holding your mud.
Also because there is no lawful money, no one can demand payment in any particular form, and so you have the choice to pay in any form you choose, and if you offer payment (A4v) and they send it back to you, they have just refused payment and so you no longer owe anything !!! Again, you dont really need any forms lodged with anyone, no form will ever make you soverign, to get anyone to accept anything you send them you just need to know who you are, and have a good working knoledge of contract law, specifically Acceptance, Conditional acceptance, refusal, and silence.
there is a legal maxim which states that ignorance of the law excuses no one. but there are over 3 million law books written on any subject you can imagine, and you can hardly be expected to read even one without falling asleep. So in my studies the 4 points of contract stated above are in my opinion the most important key to all I have learned so far. For this leagal maxim to be true it implies simplicity and I think that we all make things alot more complicated then they really are. Anyone can remember these 4 points, and this knoledge combined with an understanding that everything is by our consent will make anyone who truly takes the time to study these things a force to be rekoned with.
#6 Always respond to any response you get from anyone, or you are accepting by silence everything that is stated in their response. Always set the terms of the response that you require from them so that if they respond in any other way you can send it back with REUSAL FOR CAUSE written across it. Everything you receive from them as a response is an offer and must be treated as such. If you have not sent them back a response of your own, or sent them back what they sent you , including the envelope they sent it to you in with REFUSAL FOR CAUSE written across it as well then you have accepted their offer.