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Which States Need to be Removed from the Union?

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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The national debt is sky rocketing, and too many states are cutting their benefits to their citizens because they lack the budget to keep many public programs going. By combining states and reducing the overall number of states would reduce the strain on the system. This would allow states to to become conglomerates in order to reduce wasteful spending while increasing their overall output to their constituents. If the fed can control taxes they need to be given he power to eliminate states borders to create an easier area to control in the event of a national emergency. Many things such as the national guard are costly and if combined would help spread the cost defraying the burden on the average citizen. Keep in mind the goal is to reduce the national defecit and consolidate power into a larger single governing entity to provide better controls.


Im sure i left out some ideas so feel free to leave recommendations and some reasons if possible.

States that should be removed after giving this some thought.

1. North and South Dakota should be combined into Dakota.

2. Oklahoma combined with texas since then it has a better shape.

3. combine washington and oregon, noone would notice the difference to be honest.

4. delaware merged into maryland. delaware is to small to warrant serving any purpose.

5. "new york" should just be "York"?

6. Make Utah nevada arizona and new mexico one state. these states have low populations and so should be combined.

7. combine rhode island with new york since its small like delaware. Strength in numbers and they dont have any for a civil war their so small.




[edit on 30-3-2010 by tigpoppa]




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 05:48 AM
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well it is my opinion that we need to
remove the union from the states
instead



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 05:52 AM
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Kick Texas out since those people are just... different. Also all the horrible Presidents that have irreversible screwed up our country come from there.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 05:55 AM
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I have a better idea. All 50 states should succeed from the union and leave DC stuck with all that national debt.
After we succeed, we can form two brand new unions .. one for the commies (lol), and one for the freedom lovers.
Or we can sell Texas to Mexico and pay down some of that national debt.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by Divinorumus]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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So, you're saying that since 'Joe' has used up all his welfare and sucked his reserves dry-to-the-bone; now, he should be able to come over and help himself to my savings?



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:09 AM
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I hope youre kidding around,
you are kidding right?
The "solution" youre presenting is the "reaction" that would be desired by those seeking to first combine AREAS then create REGIONS, which kind of goes hand in hand with the disassembly required for the proposed
Regional Council Of Governors.
Once that point is reached the N.A.U. is not decades away but hours.
Not a good idea for those wanting a Restored Republic.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by tigpoppa
The national debt is sky rocketing, and too many states are cutting their benefits to their citizens because they lack the budget to keep many public programs going. By combining states and reducing the overall number of states would reduce the strain on the system. This would allow states to to become conglomerates in order to reduce wasteful spending while increasing their overall output to their constituents. If the fed can control taxes they need to be given he power to eliminate states borders to create an easier area to control in the event of a national emergency. Many things such as the national guard are costly and if combined would help spread the cost defraying the burden on the average citizen.



States that should be removed after giving this some thought.

1. North and South Dakota should be combined into Dakota.

2. Oklahoma combined with texas since then it has a better shape.

3. combine washington and oregon, since noone tavels to either state noone would notice the difference.

4. delaware merged into maryland. delaware is to small to warrant serving any purpose.

5. "new york" should just be "York"?

6. Make Utah nevada arizona and new mexico one state. these states have low populations and so should be combined.

7. combine rhode island with new york since its small like delaware. Strength in numbers and they dont have any for a civil war their so small.

Im sure i left out some ideas so feel free to leave recommendations and some reasons if possible.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by tigpoppa]


I'm at a loss.
1. Is there any reasoning for the Dakota merger? Why dont we merge North and South America while we're at it?
2. Why would we combine states for the sole purpose of their shape?
3. Why would we merge two states based on their tourism or lack of it?
5. Why bother making a simple name change when it has no affect on anything?
7. Having Rhode Island join New York would make RI an exclave. It is surrounded by Connecticut and Massachusetts.

I'm sorry, but I am very glad that you are not in any power to make these decisions.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Which States Need to be Removed from the Union?


Only those that want to be removed. Anything beyond that... any forced expulsions make you or whoever decides, just another form of overbearing government.




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:15 AM
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And with further thought,
population and resource demands would not change nor would expenditures,
this proposed solution is cosmetic.
JOBS
MANUFACTURE
PRODUCTION
COMMERCE
Our Government actually working for us.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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I second giving texas to mexico lol can give them georgia too



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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I fell for your trolling yesterday tigpoppa, but it won't happen again. It is somewhat enjoyable seeing people take your ridiculous claims seriously, but the mods might not be as amused.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by InterestedDoubter
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all the horrible Presidents that have irreversible screwed up our country come from there.

Eisenhower and LBJ were the only presidents from Texas, meaning born there. So I can understand LBJ screwing up the country with that whole Vietnam thing but Eisenhower?
Now, had you said presidents from the "south", I can see giving Arkansas and Georgia to Mexico... well, except for what to do with the states in between... and Hawaii is not in the "south" so....

[edit on 3/30/2010 by abecedarian]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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Texas, they gots to go.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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I bet Texas would take over mexico long before mexico could take over texas.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by InterestedDoubter
Kick Texas out since those people are just... different. Also all the horrible Presidents that have irreversible screwed up our country come from there.


I would vote for whatever state you are from since I'm guessing that you think the Bush's were from TX




posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Divinorumus
I have a better idea. All 50 states should succeed from the union and leave DC stuck with all that national debt.
After we succeed, we can form two brand new unions .. one for the commies (lol), and one for the freedom lovers.
Or we can sell Texas to Mexico and pay down some of that national debt.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by Divinorumus]


This is a great idea;
We should all propagate the idea of getting all states to succeed;
protest; spam; phone calls; fliers; billboards; stickers; youtube; social media; websites; newspapers; word of mouth; petitions; graffiti
do everything in your power to reach as many people as possible

If you guys want to see change; this is what it is going to take;
No pussy footing around




[edit on 30-3-2010 by DjSharperimage]

[edit on 30-3-2010 by DjSharperimage]



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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okay two things... I can see rolling Utah Nevada Arizona into one...

Living in New Mexico I can say we wouldn't fit with them... Colorado yes, the other's no...Damn NO to tossing in with Texas...

However you didn't list what states to give the boot to just who to combine with...



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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New York, California, Vermont, Illinois, Michigan, Hawaii.

All these are Kum-by-ah states dripping with progressive socialist liberals.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Well I understand if you want the Union to still exist, it should be more efficient. But if you're going to redraw State lines simply because no one would tell the difference, because a shape looks better, or becasue some names sound better than others is silly.

Maybe you should udnerstand that there are state lines because people in each state have different needs than people in the next. Maybe getting rid of the Federal government is the answer, not redrawing the sovereign state-lines.



posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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This has got to be the most ignorant thread I have ever read. Combine Texas and Oklahoma because it would have a better shape? Dude, seriously, do you have nothing better to do with your time? Get a hobby or something. I sure hope you are a 12 year old child that knows no better. That would make this tripe a little easier to swallow then to find out you are an adult functioning in society.

Good Lord what's this world coming to?

-Nate



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