Teen Violence Tomorrows Nightmare?

Land of Broken Hearts

For many it's todays reality.Extremely violent teenagers. Have you noticed? We are seeing so much more violence out of todays young people. All kids are guilty of bad behavior from time to time. However it's ongoing hostility that can be a big clue that a young person is in trouble. Headed down a dark road so to speak. No one can deny todays adolescents and even our adult teens, are constantly bombarded wth scenes of violence.

The movies are everywhere seen easily by even preteens. I can't even believe our kids can go to bed with the T.V. on, watching cartoon channel, you walk out of the room. The channel that was showing Sponge Bob, ten minutes later changes it's format to adult swim.

All of a sudden your kids watching these violent Satanic looking adult cartoons that have this dark nightmarish feel to them.
To me seems like the kind of stuff a real weirdo would stay up to watch. That's just me.
We all know how violent the video games are. I really have to wonder what's up with all this violence being pumped into todays youth. Most of the articles in todays media that ask the question ( Are video games making our teens more violent?). All seem to end saying exactly the same thing. It is not known if video games make teens more violent. Right and I'm in grass up to my azz.

One thing that should be known by everyone who comes to this site, is how much we are constantly being lied to about everything. That is why, we must seek the truth. It is the parents responsibility to know, what their child is exposed to.
In the mean time, the media is making violence impossible to miss. I'm sure everyone will agree, that the level of this violence is completely over the top. Movies like Saw and many others, that promote violence aganst women. Fancy little tricks like adult swim make sure most kids are exposed. No matter what the parent does.
If you can't see a conspiracy in all this yet?


Name not Given Sparta . Sept.17 2009 8 p.m. Three sixteen year old boys kick and stomp a 14 year old youngster
causing severe lacerasions and fracturing his face. Charges filed.

Derrion Albert 16 Chicago Il. Sept 24 2009 beaten to death near Agapa community center by a teenage mob. This kid was an honor roll student for cripes sake. Looking to give life a real go. His funeral was Oct. 3 Charges filed.

Micheal Brewer 15 Deerfield beach Fla. Oct 9 2009 beaten and then doused with alcohol and set on fire. Four young teens charged as adults because of the cruelty involved in this brutal attack. Micheal is recovering nicely. Working through his therapy with a determination described as unprecedented.

Josie Ratley 13 Deerfield beach Fla. Mar 17 2010 Broward Sheriff's Office deputies arrested a 13-year-old girl who is believed to have instigated the attack of Wayne Treacy on Josie Ratley on Wednesday after school at Deerfield Beach Middle. She remains in critical condition with part of her skull removed.

Treacy, who attended Deerfield Beach High, was rumored to be dating the 13-year-old, who is charged with aiding and abetting. Details are sketchy on what brought on the attack, but new information links text messages to the drama.
Ratley reportedly sent some mean text messages about Treacy's recently dceased brother, who committed suicide in October, just after Treacy's birthday. Michael Bell was found hanging from a tree. The comments sent Treacy into a rage and that's when the 13-year-old pointed Ratley out to him.
He then attacked Ratley at a bus stop, savagely beating the girl and kicking her in the head with his steel-toed boots until she was unconscious. The 15-year-old didn't stop until a teacher pulled him off Ratley, who was out cold
Ratley was taken by helicopter in critical condition to a Fort Lauderdale hospital. She is in extremely critical condition.
Treacy was in court Thursday and was ordered to juvenile detention for the next 21 days for now. His next court date is March 26 and he will likely face attempted murder charges if Ratley pulls through.
Reenie Brewer knows more than she'd like to about youth violence.
Ratley was once a classmate of Michael Brewer, who was the victim of a similar act of violence between schoolmates in Deerfield Beach. He was nearly burned alive.
His grandmother has used the recent teen violence episode to shed light on the troubling trend in South Florida.
"He looked at me and said 'I told you Gram,' as if to say, 'it's going on all the time, Grandma,'" Reenie Brewer said.

Meanwhile, students returning to classes today received a talk from their principal, who made a crisis counselor available for any students who might need one.
"Everyone's sad," classmate Jeffrey Jeanty told the Sun-Sentinel. "It was kind of shocking to see this happen on school grounds."
Irate parents were left wondering why the beating wasn't stopped.
"It's bad that you have to worry about your kid when they go to school, how can you let someone come onto campus and do this and nobody stop it," parent Evette Simon asked.
For Grandma Brewer, the latest case of teen violence is yet another wake-up call for parents and grandparents.
"I think we need to be more aware of what's going on in our children's lives," Brewer said, "and that doesn't mean just getting involved with their homework, that means getting involved with them socially."

Credit Miami Ari Odzer, Brian Hamacher and Todd Wright for this story.

Who is this kids Dad? One kid kills himself and the other pulls this crap.beats up a girl. What a piece of work he must be .I hear the youngster will face charges as an adult. Two lives changed forever. One selfish act of suicide.


Their seeing violence in the schools everyday. Many are becoming extremely depressed do to drug and alcohol abuse. Depression can cause anyone to become violent. Especially a teenager. Often they will turn this violence on themselves. A thing called cutting is an example. If you ask me, it is
a very simple fact, that this constant concatenation of violence is taking it's toll. I think we're only beginning to see it's results. Soon teen violence, I believe is going to explode at an atomic level and it's way to late to do anything about it. If something could be done. Then what will be left will be
America land of the broken hearts.

I originally intended the list to be much longer. I decided I would be better off not including any of the many pics and
videos obvious school shootings. Reading about little Josey still critical and Micheals determined
recovery. Derrions funeral, I really must say in all sincerity, I'm not as tough as I used to be.:shk:
This is the definition of a conspiracy. The beginning of a prison planet. IMO

Don't get me started on gang violence, only to say I think some vigilantees are needed.
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Those are teens attacking other teens or young twenty somethings - theywould have a very rude awakening if they tried the same thing with a pised off over taxed mid thirty to seventy year old. If you are past 50 with no priors then you should have the right to pack- no questions asked.

The appetite for blood
is in the cartoons now, and regular TV.
This is necessary to prepair this generation for war.
I'm surprised anyone else has noticed, this worries me a lot.

:|
David Grouchy

Stop blaming the kids and take full responsibility.

After all the kids are the ones who are watching the wars created by older men, the movies and dramas and cartoons and music created by older people... Porn was developed by older people, guns and weapons are advertised by older people...

Blame those over the age of 45 - because they are the ones who are creating confusing laws, bad examples and draconian prohibitions.

Take some god damn responsibility and realise that the kids are mimicking what they see...

news.bbc.co.uk...

YOUR FAULT!!!

Check out the link and then wonder why so many youths don't take life seriously...

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YOUR FAULT

I feel you might have misinterprated. The last thing, I would ever do is make a thread that points fingers. Is that what you are saying? Or possibly
I misinterprate?

Who is this kids Dad? One kid kills himself and the other pulls this crap.beats up a girl. What a piece of work he must be .I hear the youngster will face charges as an adult. Two lives changed forever. One selfish act of suicide

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I can't even believe our kids can go to bed with the T.V. on, watching cartoon channel, you walk out of the room. The channel that was showing Sponge Bob, ten minutes later changes it's format to adult swim.

I strongly dissagree with violence on TV is in anyway effecting the Kids today.
Here is a cartoon that was on in the 30's

very violent

Now lets take a look at the best cartoon on adult swim

I would not say one is better than the other.
But what is in school now that was not 30 years ago????
Psyciatric Medication.
Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007 Asa Coon: School shooting/suicide was on Trazodone.
Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005 16-year-old Jeff Weise: School shooting/suicide was on Prozac (he was one of us www.abovetopsecret.com... )
El Cajon, California – March 22, 2000 18-year-old Jason Hoffman: school shooting was on Celexa and Effexor.
Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2000 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush: School shooting was on Prozac
Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999 18-year-old Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold: The columbine shooting Eric Harris was on luvox Dylan's autopsy is confidential
Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999 15-year-old Shawn Cooper: School shooting was on Ritalin and an unnamed SSRI.
Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998 15-year-old Kip Kinkel: School shooting Prozac.

This goes on and on.

Their seeing violence in the schools everyday. Many are becoming extremely depressed do to drug and alcohol abuse. Depression can cause anyone to become violent.

Well yes and no. Ever read the side effects of any "anti=depressant"? One of the side effects of almost all anti-depressants are depression and suicidal thoughts which is why all anti-depressants come with this new black box warning
mikestanton.files.wordpress.com...

The idea that violence in TV and movies is now somehow magically effecting the young of today is absurd to me. Since we first had TV we had westerns where cowboys would go around killing each other and indians, before that is was on the radio.

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I strongly dissagree with violence on TV is in anyway effecting the Kids today.

Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about.

The movies are everywhere seen easily by even preteens. I can't even believe our kids can go to bed with the T.V. on, watching cartoon channel, you walk out of the room. The channel that was showing Sponge Bob, ten minutes later changes it's format to adult swim.

Do you understand the contrast. For the love of........


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I agree with you 100% randyvs... Great OP... S+F

However, i think that you fail to realise just how unpopular your opinion will be...

People LOVE violent movies.... People LOVE violent games (me included) and people LOVE porn!!!

All of these media formats stimulate areas of our brain acting like a drug. And when somebody accuses these media formats of doing harm to society people react like a junkie protecting their stash... regardless of the consequences to children!!!

Although, i believe, that this is all in the subconscious... people do not realise that this is the reason they defend this type of media format. They don’t know that they are addicted... and therefore argue passionately using excuses such as "freedoms" and how it "never done me any harm"

All empty arguments in my opinion that often ignore the FACT that these media formats DO harm children by desensitising them to violence and over sexualising them at younger and younger ages!!!

i think that it is not only the content that has changed compared to 50 years ago, but also the availability. Bugs bunny was no less violent then as it is now, but kids of 50 years ago were not seeing the violence all day. They were outside or with their friends more often und were thus somewhat balanced and didn't watch TV for hours without interruption.

Today, TV and computer are often massively overconsumed, with sometimes massive timespans spent before them. I'm talking about up to 8 hours per day in front of the box. This was clearly not the case in the 50ies and 60ies.
But as long as parents delegate the responsibility of raising their kid to games and videos, the situation will become worse, because perceived violence is no viable rolemodel.

Give them bread and circuses! This is where we are, just like at the end of the Roman Empire. I noticed that some time in the late 1970s, when punk rock, goth started and then up to the mid 1980s when rap came to the suburbs, is about the time that violence among teens started getting a lot worse. About a decade after the summer of love comes the era of hate.

reply to post by randyvs

Teen Violence Tomorrows Nightmare?

No, probably not. Historically, youthful violence has ebbed and flowed with pop culture. At one end of the spectrum, there was the hippie age when peace was preferred to violence and there was a general comradery.

Then like those of today, were the years both immediate preceding WW2 and those after, when street gangs and biker organizations were first born.

I suspect that the current trends towards violence will eventually give way to another of the opposite polarity and like the 60s and 70s, we will again see a decade or so of gentleness.

Kids always grow up to be the opposite of their parents.

Originally posted by randyvs
Teen Violence Tomorrows Nightmare?

Oh, we can probably guarantee that will happen, once they become adults and tax paying citizens and realize the amount of national debt the grups (grown-ups) have stuck them with. I wouldn't blame them if they tossed all the grups into a volcano and burned everything to the ground. How dare we stick them with having to pay for our irresponsible mistakes, our entitlements, our national debt. Born into slavery, that's what we've done to them.

Every day I make it a point to remind a youth about what we're doing to them and their future. Like, the next time you stop at taco bell, tell the kids working there that you can eat that crap now, because obama has you covered with his new health care reform .. and remind them that THEY will have to pay for your next coronary artery bypass surgery .. and then laugh at them while you walk away. Yup, let them know the truth about what we've done to them. That makes them real mad to hear the truth too.

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Oh, we can probably guarantee that will happen, once they become adults and tax paying citizens and realize the amount of national debt the grups (grown-ups) have stuck them with. I wouldn't blame them if they tossed all the grups into a volcano and burned everything to the ground. How dare we stick them with having to pay for our irresponsible mistakes, our entitlements, our national debt. Born into slavery, that's what we've done to them.

I really have a hard time with the use of we in your comment. I have no
say so what the leaders [slash that) rulers and lawmakers are doing to both us and them. That's political though.

Muckster

Always good to see you respond to one of my threads friend. The clarity of
your comments is hard to find around here. I read everyone I come across. Indeed your response is sadly very true. Definetly shedding light
on this darkness is my intent.

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Ask the new generation
about violence and watch how quickly
they show you that their hearts are made of stone.
"I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between what's fake and real".
If real people are killed, they won't care, because it's not them.
Don't agree? Then why are the Darwin awards so popular. Pop morality is winning.


David Grouchy

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This thread is so true it is frightening. The violence is everywhere but the overlaying problem is the fact that the parents or either A. Letting there kids watch and listen to this crap. B. Are divorced and trying to buy the kids out by trying to be the better person instead of working together to provide the best outcome for their kids. or C. Too busy to pay attention or spend time with their kids. Pointing fingers aside, it is a terrible situation and with the media pushing an agenda for parents to be outside the norm it doesn't seem like it will get better. It really scares me that we are heading into Clockwork Orange territory.

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Clockwork Orange territory.

A Clockwork Orange. That just about nails it huh. Indeed a very prophetic
movie. Moral decay is always prominent at the end of most great civilizations.


"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."

Will Durrant

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Very awesome thread R. I know that if I study a subject, and really want to learn it, I have to immerse myself in said subject until I dream about the same subject. Hmmm. We are immersed in a variety of media, so take your pick. If a program is on that we find inappropriate we are still exposed to that for at least a second or two before we change the channel. What some psychologists agree on is that our subconscious remembers everything we see, hear, taste, smell, and feel.

You make a very compelling argument with this subject.

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I don't know if the fact they can get away with a wrist slap as punishment is making them bolder.

I really think its time to reconsider the under 18 law...I think it should be under 10 law.

Sorry but adultswim is not the cause of teen violence. The cause of teen violence is more often than not the previous generation, or parents if you will.

And to insult the minute amount of the majority human intelligence by inferring that violence is emulated from family guy is dumb enough to be a joke on said show.

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You make a very compelling argument with this subject.

Thanks Conc.
I think so too. I expected more disagreement though. Maybe a sign people
are starting to see things have to change somewhere. They don't say,
"Violence begats violence " for no reason at all.

reject

I really think its time to reconsider the under 18 law...I think it should be under 10 law.

So you concur that there is problem in our society if it is producing this
much violence in our youth.

xemplar

Sorry but adultswim is not the cause of teen violence. The cause of teen violence is more often than not the previous generation, or parents if you will.

Don't get me wrong I really don't mean to place the blame on adult swim.
I'm positive another network could handle that type of programming
more responsibly. That's all Im really saying. I can't agree with you placing blame on the parents with what I have identified as working against them. That is just wrong.

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