reply to post by nomorecruelty
In brief, what you're preaching to others is what's been preached to you. You've swallowed it and now you're expelling it. In one end, out the
You obviously regard yourself as a passive, unthinking parrot ?
You say you don't question
And you appear to feel others shouldn't question either
Because in your world, in one end and out the other
is considered 'good' and 'pious' ?
Has it occurred to you that not everyone is prepared to be a human parrot ? NOt everyone is prepared to put their brain on ice for the duration ?
I expect more from any God I worship than for him/she/it to expect me to be a non-questioning human parrot
Can't you understand that the authoritarian religious mode is no longer working ? And for some, it never did work
This isn't the Middle Ages. People expect a lot of a God these days. They aren't prepared to accept jealousy, revenge, threats, favouritism,
contradiction or insanity in a god. In fact, it makes you wonder why they ever did. Maybe they were of the human-parrot variety ? And of course, the
church held a lot more power back-then and was prone to tearing out fingernails, burning children and other insane, sexually-perverted tortures. The
Church isn't so powerful these days though, is it ? My, how the mighty have fallen. Lucky they have people like you working for them, still
deluded, still preaching blind obedience, 'just because'
My God is NOTHING like the God of the Old Testament. Nothing
My God is a genius without parallel ... beyond comprehension
My God is the embodiment of enlightenment and is far, far removed from fanatics who cling to stuff written piecemeal, plagiarised, distorted, etc. by
a thousand or more vested interests over thousands of years of ignorance and fear and lust for power over the masses
My God does not hide behind the 'one size fits all Free-will disclaimer' any time someone points out the illogic and discrepancies
If God created me as a conscious act, then God is responsible for all my foibles. My God would not dream of blaming me or passing the buck on a Satan
which itself is a creation of the fear-mongers
This 'personal God, Special-planet, Sun revolves 'round Earth, Heaven/Hell divisiveness'
is out of time
It's a big space out there, or 'in here', as the case may be
Organised religion has made profit from the 'isolationist' message it's preached. Just as it's profited financially and power & control-wise from
it's claimed monopoly on the God & Afterlife Industry
Look around. Millions have died in the past decade in Iraq alone. Do you believe God is in favour of that ? If so, what sort of God would he/she/it
be ? Suffering defines this planet. The place is soaked in blood. And that's not because we're 'evil', or 'greedy'. It's because we're
animals of the most predatory kind. It's in our genes. And we didn't install those genes and I strongly doubt any 'god' did, either
Maybe we were seeded. Maybe we blew here from someplace else.
Evolution hasn't even scratched us. We're up to teh same tricks as the cave-men. Only the clothing and hair-styles have changed. We're mad dogs,
dangerous -- go to a department store during the sales and see it for yourself
We can't help what we are. It's what we are. Telling us to change our ways makes as much sense as expecting lions and alligators to change their
Maybe God regards us as we'd regard a tank filled with sharks --- fondly, compassionately, yet with a bit of a wrinkle of the nose. We are the human
zoo: breeding, fighting, competing, snarling and at the same time ashamed of ourselves for being as our Creator created us --- and denying what we are
and aspiring to what the clergy claims are God's expectations of us
Well hey, if the Creator wanted us to change, don't you think he/she/it would have done something to effect a change by now ? And that change would
require to be programmed into our DNA, because we have as much chance of changing our human nature as we have of willing our noses to disappear
Yet some try to explain it all away with the notion of a 'Debil' who was expelled for being naughty and now works to make us naughty too. And
others suppress their natural intelligence and try to believe that
Most of the creatures on this planet exist by killing something else. You noticed that ? Do you have an explanation for it ? Do you think it's a
'peaceful model' ? If you were provided the oportunity to create a world, would you design a world where most things exist by killing something
This world is a rough neighbourhood. Would you knowingly send your children to such a world ? How would you expect them to survive it ? Would you
judge them if they adapted to their environment ? Would you blame them for adapting -- bearing in mind that intelligence is defined as 'the ability
to adapt' ? Because that's what humans have done ... adapt to their environment
So who's responsible for the situation -- the one which created the environment AND those who exist in it --- or those who fight to survive that
Would I like a Disneyland environment where Bambi is safe and everything lives in harmony ? You bet. And I'll also bet I have lots of company
But we weren't provided a Disney environment, were we ? Instead, we struggle with despair, torment, depression and hopelessness caused by what we
experience and see around us 24/7
Not the clergy though. By and large, they're spared the necessity to get out and find a job, pay their bills, deal with the true reality. Instead
they reside in their inner sanctums, catered to by house-keepers, their food and lodgings provided, their pensions secure, all cover for each other
and professing to tell the real world how to comport itself and laying blame left and right
I have no fear of meeting 'God'. I'm confident he/she/it understands why I feel and speak as I do
The Biblical Jesus Christ didn't mince words and didn't mind getting physical when he believed the situation warranted some tough-love
And the Biblical God was no master of restraint, huh --- slaying entire cities, tossing plagues and pestilence at entire nations, etc.
You believe a God like that wants mealy-mouthed humans who wring their hands and fall on their knees ! ?
Or did that God never exists, outside the imaginations, fears, lust for power etc. of the thousands who manufactured the Bible --- and those who
peddle the propaganda to this day in order to render millions obedient and afraid ? Yes ... that's what I think, too