Obama Sets Sights on Merging Mexico and US?

Obama Sets Sights on Merging Mexico and US?

After more than a year of campaigning, President Obama (left) finally won much-needed and long-overdue changes to our health care system. Achieving what four other presidents could not, Obama broke through the political impasse to obtain health care coverage for the vast majority of uninsured Americans. The president now needs to take this mandate and act quickly on what should be the next major item on his domestic agenda: modernizing our immigration system. Comprehensive immigration reform requires a balanced and measured approach that includes a broad legalization component, a foreign policy that promotes meaningful and equitable economic development in the region, and humane enforcement measures that strengthen, rather than divide, local communities. Any comprehensive immigration reform bill thus must hold as its centerpiece a fair and practicable legalization plan that recognizes and respects the diversity of our communities. The clearest option would be granting undocumented immigrants, including LGBT domestic partners, broad access to permanent resident status so they could work and travel freely. It is only when we remove the fear of deportation that we truly remove the burden of second-class citizenship. While the word "amnesty" is politically unpopular in some circles, its true meaning is reprieve or absolution. Amnesty does not mean a free ride, as people must still pay fines, wait their turn in line and comply with whatever new rules are developed. – SFGate.com

Dominant Social Theme: Painting the canvas of future greatness. The great uniters will unite all.

Free-Market Analysis: This article is the story of a canvas now being painted. It may even end up with a portrait of an international couple being married. But it is not a pretty picture by any means. Investors with holdings in the United States – dollars, bonds and stocks – will have to beware of what is coming. Some of the largest markets in the world could be further destabilized in the near or fairly-near future.

The problems have to do with the Obama administration's focus on upcoming legislation. While financial reform is an interesting topic, US President Barack Obama and those behind his administration are aiming, in our estimation, at a bigger prize - immigration reform. They seem to want to introduce such legislation soon, and while it may not go anywhere after a divisive health care debate, we think that it will come back again and again, as it is important to a larger agenda. This article will concentrate on immigration reform and its eventual ramifications, financial and otherwise.

To start, one has to grant continuity between this administration and the last (a Republican one) and grant also that each party is a continuation of the other. The players behind the scenes are a power elite that continually seeks further consolidation and concentration of wealth (in its hands) at the expense of the middle class and other influential factions of a participatory democracy.

If one does grant this, the picture steadily reveals itself, even if it is not finished. What one sees, however, if one looks hard, is a potential finished work that will be one of amazing trickery and false perceptions. Yet, it is not a new effort. In fact, it's been going on for decades, but the health care bill was doubtless a major advance. Here's a Fox News story that reveals more of the big picture:

Immigration Reform Could KO Health Care ... While Congress voted to overhaul U.S. health care and provide universal coverage, 15 percent of America's uninsured population remains uncovered and unaddressed: illegal immigrants. Democrats are expected to introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation this spring, and when they do, health care costs will once again be front and center. Under the new law just passed, illegal immigrants are not entitled to health care. That means undocumented workers will continue to get care the way they always have, showing up at county clinics and hospitals for emergency treatment. According to cost estimates submitted by various states, that costs taxpayers and ratepayers about $4.3 billion a year.

Read the full article here

I don't know what to think of this... I mean immigration legislation sounds like something good to conquer next for Obama doesn't it? But I can't attest to what he is going to do... of shall I say the shadow government?

If, and I say this with a grain of salt, IF Obama were to merge Mexico with the US in any way, shape, or form I think that would be it. And yes I know people say this about a ton of stuff - but seriously, merging our country with another, unless done correctly and with the OK of the citizens, would be a terrible, terrible idea that would usher in a lot of crime to say the least.

What do you all make of this?

Oh and by the way, I love how they're trying to use the failed war on drugs as a reason for new legislation. You cannot stop a drug user from using, they will find drugs, steal drugs, make drugs wherever they are at no matter what cost. If anyone thinks that merging the US & Mexico would be the best way to stop drugs and/or drug violence they are very sadly mistaken.

[edit on 29/3/2010 by highlyoriginal]

Oh No a US invasion and annexation of Mexico? What's next Canada? Is the US becoming the new colonial power of the 21st century?

[edit on 29-3-2010 by starwarsisreal]

I will go against the grain here and say...

cool.

I would love to travel down to mexico whever I wanted, no passport/visa nonsense required, and force those mexicans to adopt a minimum wage so we can have a greater stable economy.

Frankly, I would love a united world though...no passports needed, just come and go where you want...if you want to live and work in Berlin one year, so be it...florida the next year, then moscow, then tokyo...etc.

But hey...I am just seeing things through the eyes of a human on earth verses an american in a state...I keep forgetting to be xenophobic.

reply to post by starwarsisreal


It sure seems like their trying, eh? Like I said, IF this were to be passed it would be hell (and no I don't have any problems with Mexico, or Mexicans so don't be calling me a raciest I just believe we each have our different countries and it works the way it currently is).

In the article they mention how if the legislation is denied they will more than likely keeping throwing it in trying to get it passed. Think about how the HCR worked, did the first version get through? No! But once they gutted it down it passes, and now it will just be fixed back up the way they want it. And I'm saying "they" because I don't feel like starting a democrat vs. republican debate here. And I ask you all who reply to do the same and be respectful to all parties unless you want to bitch about both, you're more than welcome

reply to post by SaturnFX


Hey man, what you just said sounds wonderful, but it all needs to be done properly and you know how the government does their [dirty] work. I'd love to be able to travel anywhere anytime and work anywhere anytime. But it's not that simple.

You make it sound beautiful, but it will never be that easy, not in our lifetimes at least.

Funny how the last straw is usually the most sensible. We sit around and allow ourselves to be spyed on, and the patriot act gets renewed and no one says a word. Last time I checked the federal reserve still prints our money. The CIA helps run drugs into the U.S. and it appears they are pumping opium and heroin into Russia. But what are we angry about?
Universal Healthcare (I'm against the bill they passed, but c'mon) and mexicans coming here? The U.S. hasn't been sovereign for years, get over it. This isn't new either, remember talk of the NAU in 2005? But Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Bill O Reilly direct the anger in this country it seems. As Bill Maher put it "Rush Limbaugh scares white people as they get into their trucks to go to lunch". Pathetic.

[edit on 29-3-2010 by time91]

I'm all for it. Have you ever been to Mexico? Its beautiful. Especially down south. The bad thing is that the US is only doing this for one reason. Resources. We have used up the US and now they are fixing their gaze elsewhere. Mexico has tons of land and no way to fend off the US.

Originally posted by Darkice19
I'm all for it. Have you ever been to Mexico? Its beautiful. Especially down south. The bad thing is that the US is only doing this for one reason. Resources. We have used up the US and now they are fixing their gaze elsewhere. Mexico has tons of land and no way to fend off the US.

Incorrect, we have more natural resources than we know what to do with, coal to oil conversion could supply the US with liquid fuel for over 200 years alone. We also have HUGE oil reserves. The land these resources are on are now all "Federal lands" as politicians have found it is easier to invest in overseas companies and reap financial rewards when we import and make sure we are unable to develop our own resources. How to secure your overseas investment? Easy, make sure domestic supplies cannot be touched.

the day he starts that he and his little cabinet of wanna be dictators .... are done..... nuff said

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I will go against the grain here and say...

cool.

I would love to travel down to mexico whever I wanted, no passport/visa nonsense required, and force those mexicans to adopt a minimum wage so we can have a greater stable economy.

Frankly, I would love a united world though...no passports needed, just come and go where you want...if you want to live and work in Berlin one year, so be it...florida the next year, then moscow, then tokyo...etc.

But hey...I am just seeing things through the eyes of a human on earth verses an american in a state...I keep forgetting to be xenophobic.

You know something, the problem is, there is no government modeled here that I would allow this, because their economic systems of minimum wages, bank, corporations, slave labor, and realtors are exhortion. In the monied system, the world would need to be like Scandinavia, and Finland has the best consitution in the world.

The US is not anyone's model.

If I were chosing a model for this, I would get the Native Elders From around the globe to work with the Venus Project and think tank an equal world without money, providing for everyone, volunteering, no demands, and high education, with absolute respect for nature, clean technology, and train all the children to take shifts in management. No one left out, all vulnerable people equally provided for.

As for anything else, NOT A CHANCE!

I also believe all borders were created by wars and are invalidated. And that people should be able to move freely in this world. Just not going to allow these elitists slave systems to dominate.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by highlyoriginal


I think merging(or at least creating a better relationship) mexico and the US is a great idea, if done properly. I say this based on one point...we share a huge border with them.

The quality of life disparity between the US and Mexico is just too big to ignore. The reason we have Mexican residents streaming over the border is because the quality of life here, is so much better. Most illegal immigrants are only trying to do whats best for their families. I cant say that I wouldnt do the same if I were in their shoes.

We blame Mexico for the drug trade but US law(prohibition) is what has created the black market for drugs. Our prohibition laws create a value that would not be there otherwise.

Embrace our/your Mexican brothers and sisters. We share a continent and it is our duty to help bring them out of poverty and improve their quality of life.

I am a firm believer it is going to happen and I don't believe it will be a rush job.

IMO, the US has learned from the the merging of countries that now form the EU.

If citizens from countries that joined the EU were able to accept the merger, why would it be any different for the citizens of Mexico and the US and possibly Canada?

Europe has done it, South America is doing it, Africa is talking about it as well as the Middle East and Asia. It is a growing trend and I expect we will ultimately follow that trend.