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Deadly explosion goes off at Moscow Metro station

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posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by charlie_the_loafer
 

Kadyrov is just the person we put in charge of the region. The separatist groups functional independently of him, despite our hopes to the contrary.

Here is recent quote from Kadyrov clarifying who those "separatists groups" are and who is training them:

"The West is interested in separating the Caucasus from Russia. The Caucasus is a strategic frontier of Russia. Taking the Caucasus away from Russia will mean taking half of the country away from Russia. Now they are sending groups of foreigners to us. We are fighting U.S. and British special services in the mountains," Kadyrov said in an interview with the newspaper Zavtra (the transcript of the interview was published on the Chechen president's and government's websites on Thursday)."

The British and US regimes succeeded in annexing Serbia's Kosovo & Metohija province to Albania using the exactly the same methods, arming and training the KLA terrorists to attack local police and civilian populations. I'm sure that all citizens of southern Russia, whatever their religious background, know which powers are behind the destabilization of their region.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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Wonder if its the same "so-called" terrorist network that was behind the train bombing of last year involving an express train from Moscow. Think it was a few hundred miles outside Moscow before the bomb went off.

I'll have to do some digging around an see what I can find out. Ill be keeping an eye on this post.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
It's always sad and disheartening hearing things like this.

Why do people do this? Killing innocent people you don't know that pose no threat to you... it's so nonsensical and cowardly. Disgusting.


Angry and desperate people do crazy things, haven't you seen it in your streets?

One individual just outside my University was so angry that he lost it at an old man, pulled him out of the car, started punching him in the face.. Later on I found out in the news that the old man died in hospital.

People over there are pissed off, they have the right to be pissed off, and the worst thing is that they can't do anything to the people who they are pissed off with (example Russian Government, Army, Secret Service, puppet regimes etc etc).

Look for the core problem, through its effects. They teach that in every profession, even IT, Electronics, Networking, Medicine, Engineering, etc.. You can fix a problem either short term, or long term. Short term you can just relief the pain, for example pain killers (the Chechen rebels are the pain, and the troop is the pain killers, etc).

aaaah this is not worth it.. People are more stupid than they seem..

[edit on 29-3-2010 by oozyism]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:24 AM
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Third Explosion:

www.nowpublic.com...


I live in Moscow and just received a report that a third bomb has gone off. Not sure what metro station or casualty report.


-Kdial1



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:30 AM
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The terrorists campaign is russia, is probably being done by the west.

They seem to have the most problems to do with terror than any other main country.

We all know its the west doing it.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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oh andy1033, yet again, your paranoia is reaching dangerous levels.

Russia has a history of terrorism, before you started watching infowars and believing everything Alex Jones prints. Terrorism in Russia goes back decades, to the days when Alex Jones was a militia member.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:28 AM
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Caucasus Region. The Caucasus region, includes Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia and the Muslim regions of Southern Russia...


isn't south Georgia a NATO plum, being coerced into the western war machine despite the citizens preference to remain under Russian influence?

Chechnya may be the patsy


~~~ADD after the star given~~~~


Status: The region broke away from Georgia in a 1991-92 war. A peacekeeping force with 500 peacekeepers each from Russia, Georgia, and North Ossetia monitors a 1992 truce.

www.rferl.org...


i recall the north Ossetia and south Ossetia near-war, Georgia-Russia-USA/NATO & the planned deployment of the missile shield


[edit on 29-3-2010 by St Udio]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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Summery: Russians want to take over Georgia ---> False flag ---->War
Possible? lol
In my opinion this could -very much- be a false flag attack.
Its not only the amount of people who dies that count.
Russia is a kind of nation that could possibly start a war with georgia over this.

[edit on 29-3-2010 by freebourn]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:36 AM
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WEll we can now curb our false flag appetite. BBC news has just reported that it was two female suicide bombers. The FSB some security offices were above the station.

[edit on 29-3-2010 by Tiger5]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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LOL how does this change the fact that it might be false flag?
Women cant be brain-washed?



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by Tiger5
BBC news has just reported that it was two female suicide bombers.



Would these be the 'breast bombers' that is getting noteriety of late.
~ testing the detection perimeters of implanted bombs?
seeing as how suicide vests are yesterdays method



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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They say the explosions were done by suicide bombers, explosion power 2 - kilos of TNT, and they were supposedly nail-bombs.
Explosions were rigged in 2 metro stations ("Lyubyanka" and "Park Kulturi"), in the time when train stops and its doors are open, to maximize impact.
Confirmed causalities are 37 dead and 102 injured.

NEWSRU

Vladimir Putin said LIVE on Russia Today from Siberia that they are going to maximize security in metro and overall. More CCTV cameras. BIG BROTHER.

TO give my opinion terrorism won't come to an end in Russia until they get out their troops from Chechnya, Ingushiya and Caucasus in general, or at least stop terrorizing them.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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I love (hate) how when stories like this break, everyone is so eager to blame the average scapegoat for this.....Muslims...Chechyns...Etc.

Some are so easily programmable to accept the usual Boogiemen without ZERO research or investigation.

AL QAIDAH!!!! AL KAIDUH!!! AL KAYEDU!!!



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 05:56 AM
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I love (hate) how when stories like this break, everyone is so eager to blame the average scapegoat for this.....Muslims...Chechyns...Etc.

Some are so easily programmable to accept the usual Boogiemen without ZERO research or investigation.

AL QAIDAH!!!! AL KAIDUH!!! AL KAYEDU!!!



Well what investigation can we do? They say that suicide bomber faces are intact and they will identify them later. But everyone is saying that they might be from Caucasus.

So you are saying that these women were brainwashed by Russian government? They don't need to brainwash people by other means than terrorizing their families, their neighbors in Caucasus. Why brainwash people for terrorism while you have million people in occupied, suppressed territory in your country that are ready to die just to avenge their nation, their families?

[edit on 29/3/2010 by archasama]

[edit on 29/3/2010 by archasama]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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My condolences go to those who suffer today, the innocent civilians just going about their business.

Well whoever or whatever the cause of this is, it is very worrying as the almost 9/11 immediate designation of the people who did it.

No One has claimed responsibility, but already the Russians are making the accepted belief within Russia that it is the North Caucasus.

There will now doubt be popular support for any further action there.

With the false flag we saw in Georgia Recently found here:

Hoax Broadcasts - Georgia - Russian Tanks Invading,

The fact that just after that event this month this happened:
French railway mistakenly Announce Train Explosions

Seems very coincidental indeed.

Besides that angle The Caucuses have worried me for some time.

It is the place in the world besides Korea/Afgan-SwatValley with the most danger of a conflict between the world superpowers.

You only have to look at a map of the area and consider,

Turkey is a Nato Country, the proximity of Southern Caucus to Iran, Iraq and the middle east, the face of in Georgia and the reports of both US and Israeli Special Forces interfering with Georgia. The fact the Ukrainian president had an attempted assassination attempt by the Russians with a Virus/Bacteria (hence his pock marked face), and a host of other events.

If Russia is to back up any Palestinian middle east conflicts, which seem to be on the cards again with recent events in Jerusalem and the west bank, or at least tacit ally support Iran in any coming invasion or military action, that is feared, the only way is for them to go down through the Caucus.

This area is one of the most unstable but strategically important in the world.

Time will tell if this will be used to garner support for any actions or moves south by the Russians, and I doubt after this Georgia will be stable for long. If however the blame is laid in Chechnya hopefully any retaliation will be based just there, such a pity as a ceasefire has held for nearly a year.

There is some more information on players in this region, and the build-up, and meddling by the US and Israel etc in the region here:Georgia*Russia*Poland ATS resource Thread

Also info on a very under the radar as far as MSM or what we here, but strategically, and politically very powerful part of this area:

Kazakhstan The Most important Country on Earth?

Wishing very much, the whole region does not become a stand off or political game of Russia & USA etc....

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 29-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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"In a televised meeting with President Dmitry Medvedev, Federal Security Service head Alexander Bortnikov said body fragments of the two bombers pointed to a Caucasus connection. He did not elaborate."

"In the Park Kultury blast, the bomber was wearing a belt packed with plastic explosive and set it off as the train's doors opened, said Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for Russia's top investigative body. The woman has not been identified, he told reporters."

So according to not DNA but body fragments, they know this was the Chechnyian Connection. But later on in the same article it says that female bomber has not been identified.


FYI, Chechnya is 50 miles from Georgia

www.globalsecurity.org...

From CNN:

"A Web site associated with Chechen separatists claimed responsibility for the attacks. Chechnya is located in an area of Russia known as the North Caucasus, located between the Black and Caspian Seas."

No link to website means no sustainable evidence.



[edit on 29-3-2010 by filosophia]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by MischeviousElf
The fact the Georgian president had an attempted assassination attempt by the Russians with a Virus/Bacteria (hence his pock marked face), and a host of other events.


Hi! just one small silly correction to the protocol!


It wasn't the Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili that got poisoned with dioxin!

It was the Ukranian President Viktor Yushchenko that got poisoned — and has since then been recovering from the dioxin poisoning that left his face bloated and pockmarked in 2004.

[edit on 29-3-2010 by Chevalerous]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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Hey sorry missed that, had lots of windows open and watching News of Moscow whilst typing, my bad....


Ta & edited.

Elf



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 07:23 AM
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posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 07:50 AM
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Here is another video update of these two coordinated terrorist attacks and is available below the text. It is very interesting that the FSB offices are in the general location, and the next attack followed 30 minutes during rush hour. This station is the most used and second largest after the Tokyo system. This is attack is certainly an act of cowardice and will only embolden the Russian government to converge on Chechnya in force as they have done in the past.

This was a bold response by whomever was responsible, but I am not going to say terrorists or Chechens, because it largely only speculation and unconfirmed. However, the response by the Russian security forces will be quite ferocious and vicious given their past. Hopefully, the response is coordinated on those that are responsible and collateral damage is left at a minimum. Killing and torture of civilians is only going to lead to more of this in future if the Russians respond in a knee-jerk reaction.





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