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Originally posted by l neXus l
i believe in a higher power, and i also believe in aliens, nobody ever said you cant be believers in both.
This video is for all you Alien and UFO obsessed people. May GOD lead you all in the right direction cuz you're so naive.
(from the video) I will kick evolution people every chance I get.
All well and good in what you say, but you didn't need someone like videoman, using the strawman arguments+ a rant + a rave now and again did you? you just said what you think. Videoman is intolerant, "Evolution is a Lieeee" Alfred Russel Wallace simply had an idea, a proposal, so where did the lie come from? It is quite obvious that videoman has er, fallen out of his tree, and that we, as more advanced Monkeys should do the Christian Monkey thing, and put him back into his tree.
Originally posted by Northwarden
Oh happy happy joy joy, another thread bashing established religion.
If God is real, which He is, some people have some eventual reckoning to do. Look what complexity we have, what potential in our undiscovered design, and how intelligently we were crafted. Is it so hard to believe we were created, not evolved? Read some Emerson and be amazed, because you're not even holding a matchstick to the sun of his genius. Yes, please spare us your rants, and realize that nothing is going to last for thousands of years and become a life-centering religion for billions upon billions of intelligent humans without any merit. In this deceptive age of scientific and political agenda, of cheap culture and moral lassitude we are witnessing the destruction of our every moral boundary that used to protect society as a whole. Let's face it, this is a decaying decadent culture that has already seen its best days. Now injustice and judgemental control over others are everyday trials, create-your-own-religions assert themselves as reality, and our societal problems have become exponentially worse. Don't you think, even if you are unsure, that's it's a matter worth reserving a doubt and being respectful over?
I used to debate about my religion, in-depth, point for point with people until I was blue in the face and even hated for my tenacity at times - I learned my lesson too. No matter how well-explained, researched, or sensible it was only perceived as an insult by those who refused to see.Unless someone wants some guidance, you will not see most spiritually-minded people who believe firmly in God engage in a heated arguement. It's not because you "silence" anyone, it is perhaps because what is precious to us will not be thrown out before those who intend to simply tear it to pieces, no matter how well-stated. It's to not add fuel to a ridiculous fires. It's because most who love God, Know Him Personally in our Hearts and hear His guidance would rather you attack us than God. But no, with reckless fervour many an athiest of such a nature would prefer to insult their Maker, without whose gift of life they could not exist, and heap curses upon themselves. As my old neighbours explained once to me (ages 80 and 95) - they credited their longevity to plenty of sleep, eating plenty of fresh fruit, and not argueing about religion.
I'm also well aware of the dichotamy in Masonic tradition and others to undermine, seed enemy agents among, and discredit Christianity for hundreds of years. It's a shame that people don't wake up to the perpetualized bs which works behind the scenes. Empirical evidence and observation has replaced faith in this Christians life - so many answered prayed, the loving prescence of the Holy Spirit among us, healing, pre-cognizance and warnings, accelerated reactions and intelligence, conversations with angels, testimonies in the thousands from others, and on. A real and living God who loves and supports us! All I have to say to them is Too. Damn. Late.
That's not totally unlike what Carl Sagan has to say about religion and UFOs starting at about 2 minutes into this video:
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Both the god-believers and the alien-believers are simply anthropo-morphising the observable universe. One sees a god, the other sees aliens, but they're both doing the same thing. So, having one cult outing the other as naive is, well... naive.
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
There really isn't much more to say. Though the "Owned!" part does add a laughability factor this thread would have otherwise been lacking.
Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
There's an interesting video here about the two subjects.
Originally posted by spikey
Religion is a cult, whereas a belief in ET's or UFO's are not for the reasons given above. Not unless one starts to worship those ET's or UFO's or course, then that would be the tipping point into a cult-like belief.
Long story short, the two are not the same thing at all.
Originally posted by BroketheWall
ok, tell yourself this if the rapture does happen the church will be the ones going...if anyone knows that they will know christians were right and the "crackpots" were wrong.
so then by your faith we can repent and be saved.
but if people who do no justice to the furthering of are spiritual nature are left behind...then all the christians will see they were wrong and will follow the lead.
the second scenario is highly unlikely to happen though. they will probably continue their spiritual evolution elsewhere, instead of knowing the truth about are spiritual rights.
i beleive most of humanity will realize we are all one...from the sun to the micro organsims that make up everything...its all connected.
its anyone who harms the whole by keeping the cycle of good and evil going that will be taken.
he says it only tries to debunk christianity thats false it debunks every religion known to man! the message does not say christians will leave...its anyone not supporting the greater good of mankind that will be taken
he interprets their message wrong...the people who are taken are not allowing the whole to break the cycle of good and evil, therefore disrubting the harmony. the ones still on earth can handle these changes because they will be in harmony with these changes...why do you think they want the open mind open heart to stay around for the biggest disaster the world has ever seen??
Because death will be an illusion to the ones still here and we will ride along with the new frequency wave instead of stopping the evolution of this planet and our consciousness.the people took on the ship are taken because they will not allow this process of spiritual evolution! ive always heard they would receive the frequency to but if they reject it than they cannot receive it and will die. only to be reborn again to start all over.
i can even explain with the bible these principles if you want me to.
even if they are evil by your faith if we rebuke them in the name of christ they will go...but what happens when they just look at you and say i am of christ and so are you!