Why I Left NASA: A Curiosity of Spirit

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
This guy is telling the truth and I will tell you why.

Not one post from Phage.

Not one post from weedwacker.

Not one post from Chadwickus.

Not one post from Ozweatherman.

If the four winds aren't blowing, the lamp isn't blown out.

Peace

Flawed but funny

~~ ONLY 5.5 HOURS UNTIL WE LEARN ALL NASA SECRETS ~~

Originally posted by jrmcleod
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I like how you seem compelled to tell everyone else how they are wrong to believe what this guy has to say, he may be right, he may be wrong, the decision is for every individual to decide for themselves...you dont get 'Brownie Points' for trying to disprove everyone when you have no evidence what-so-ever that he is lying...oh wait, you did use the usual "big words, elaborate sentencing" etc.

The fact still remains that whether he is correct, incorrect or whatever, it is still an insightful short story that can make people smile with anticipation, which, no disrespect is far more than i can say for your negative attitude towards a captivating short story and thought patterns of 'knowing he is wrong'.

Right, and I wonder how you went with the riddle

"How do you keep a fool in suspense?"

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
This guy is telling the truth and I will tell you why.

Not one post from Phage.

Not one post from weedwacker.

Not one post from Chadwickus.

Not one post from Ozweatherman.

If the four winds aren't blowing, the lamp isn't blown out.

Peace

So, you don't really trust your own judgement on this? Just leave it to the experts? You believe everything those guys say?

But I have to agree that, if they were to post, they'd be trying to make an honest point, not simply bitch about being kept in suspense, indulge in name-calling, and state as fact that the guy's a scammer without being able to identify any specific inaccuracy.

The fact that Mr Mask has been able to sway so many people simply through the force of his skepticism shows how many weak-minded people there are on ATS.

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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
To the alleged OP NASA man -

Cut to the chase already and stop acting all NASA on us...

Lol, one case where Never A Straight Answer is actually fitting

Meh, I'll wait for the cliffs on this one...

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It was really just a joke. Any thread I have personally done that has anything to do with space has one of those 4 or all of them all over it. Because I am not a "NASA" guy, it is very easy for them to pick things apart with technical Jargon and thus "blow out your flame" regardless of you having anything or not. They are "official story" guys, so If you're not echoing the official story...the four winds blow.

If they haven't challenged him, he must be saying something they can't refute. That is all I meant.

Peace

Well, as for the veracity of this story, I dont know anything about the kind of software NASA would use in a robot, but what the OP said about cosmic rays chimes with stuff my father, who was a senior engineer specialising in avionics, told me about the limits of computational power on sattelites. As for the idea that there could be an unknown, possibly secret, device on a piece of NASA equipment, I'd guess thats very likely. I'll bet there's something of the sort on most of their gear. FTL coms tho? I'm fascinated to know how you came to that conclusion John. Like a few others, I'm also impatient!

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Sorry, sincere apologies.

I was being unnecessarily harsh... but the thread put me in that kind of mood, I'm afraid.

Seems to me like AstroEngineer is trying to tell us someone is reviewing the pics coming back from space, either to protect the fact that TPTB already have space vehicles/installations out there, or, there are other craft, other beings.

TPTB would want to make sure one of these pics didn't slip past them.

Since the thumbnail takes less bandwidth, it would reach earth first, before the real picture, allowing for real time damage control.

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Originally posted by Signals

~~ ONLY 5.5 HOURS UNTIL WE LEARN ALL NASA SECRETS ~~

In case you missed it because of all of the BS in this thread, he’s already posted again:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

In case you missed this too, he’s not saying that he knows “all NASA’s secrets”. Nor is he saying, what he is saying should be taken as proof positive of anything.

My experiences and the stories I've been told are not individually incontrovertible proof of anything. How much simpler life would be if they were. But each one is suggestive, and their totality constitutes (for me at least) proof.

So, unfortunately, your little dancing banana man is probably going to be let down if that is what he's expecting.

nobody else find it odd that the OP hasnt commented on this thread once since posting it? not even attempted to prove anything. he must have read some of the posts debunking his claims if i had somethin major to tell the world id try a little harder to make people believe me.

i think im on the side screaming hoax for this one.

sry just my opinion

Hmmmm, well. Ok, I'll say this, writing a good story is a pretty addictive process. You know where you want your story to go, the clincher moment. But the process of writing is so engrossing and enjoyable. You find yourself adding little details here and there to pad out the script because you know whats coming, but you want to hold of as long as you can.

That to me seems what is happening here, which is just my personal feeling I get. I can forgive the OP for the dragging out process, especially if this is a great sotry he's planned for a while. It almost seems his excitement is building as with those who are willing to go along with him. Rather fascinating in its own right. BUT this really aint the place! Please get on with the story/and or report and answer some questions put forth, otherwise you won't be taken seriously, which would be unfortunate.

I find this thread intriguing, but in his initial post, he states:

"For those who don't want the suspense of not knowing where this is going, and may feel my posting in installments is manipulation instead of slow fingers attached to a slow brain, you can read my post last week where I tell you in advance what we discovered."

Does anyone know where this post is, where he tells us in advance what they discovered?

If the OP really did want to spill the beans he would've done so already.

Put yourself in this guy's position for a moment, if you had some explosive information to reveal to the public and decided to post such sensitive information online would you bother taking this long to get to the point? In the process losing the interest of many members of the public and raising concerns about your credibility? Not a very smart approach in my book.

If you were a real whistleblower you wouldn't jeopardise your well being by posting such information, which can easily be traced by TPTB, in the first place. You would more than likely go through someone you trust who can spread the information to a wide audience. Your information would be relayed via a 2nd or 3rd party at least to protect your identity. There's no security for you if you post on the net.

The OP has offered us nothing but a short story with a lot of technical jargon so far. Some find it captivating I find it tedious.

In my opinion if something were to come out, it would come out by accident, through someone making a mistake and information being leaked, not from someone claiming to be an ex NASA employee posting on a conspiracy website.

I am a self-proclaimed fence-sitter thus far. I am beginning to wonder that if challenged,
AE would submit any evidence to substantiate his credentials. I believe this could be done without divulging his true identity. (It is obvious he intends to remain anonymous by his blog, no bio etc.) I am not sure he is blowing any lids off other than opening a can of worms.

I was highly impressed by the observation of one poster that the "usual-skeptics" have not arrived. (I'd add Ignore the Facts to that list.) Coupled with the fact that AE seems to be "insulated" here with kid gloves. Makes me wonder.

Having said all that, I will say AE doesn't seem to be afraid of stoking controversy as evidenced by his blog. Some of which runs parallel with ATS.

Excerpts below:

Werner Von Braun and the Meatball Pin......There were Nazis in NASA’s early days, and I’ve learned things that make me suspect there still are.

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i agree even tho i have stated in some previous posts on this thread i do believe this has all the signs of a classic hoax i am willing to see it play out and then the mighty hoax forum axe will swing ..or not.....

may i take a seat on the fence with you? .. i tell you tho i am leaning to one side a little bit.

to answer your question .. many times individuals have gotten in touch with springer or SO to prove their identity to them , they do not divulge the information but they would come on and tell everyone 'this guy is for real'

this can be accomplished without him having too blank out Id cards or posting anything that he might feel would jeopardise him in the future.

The major thing for me is in his introduction post he states he may 'write a book' from his memories ... this rings alarm bells for me straight away...

People come here gather a following who start visiting his blog.. that expands into a site .. and its not long before the books and dvd's follow .. great marketing strategy imho.

This whole situation is a 2 edged sword.... if it is a hoax it gives future potential whistleblowers a bad name and they will be treated worse and worse as ATS members get fed up of hearing the same stuff over and over.

so i call him out .... Prove your credentials to the Owners of this site, they are very good at looking after members correctly if you are genuine.

Or move this thread to creative writing (short stories) because until then or evidence is supplied this post is just that .. a story ...

Yes, this could be just a marketing ploy. I mean, if he actually says anything, but nothing at all, then i guess he could think that people will want to know more by buying his book. I am not saying this is the case, but i have seen this time and time again. Because there are alot of people out there who will believe anything, it makes this subject a money making machine. It is a shame because all the crap gets mixed in with the good, and thats why the subject is laughed at. And at the end of the day, its down to the people who will believe without evidence.

Originally posted by rich23

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
Why cant the guy write it all up offline and upload it at once? Instead of blaming slow fingers....

Why can't you drop your unreasonable demands? Why should he kow-tow to your need for incontrovertible proof? There's no such thing in cases like this.

Probably because Ha' la' tha has the audacity to expect proof when newbie posters come here and make extraordinary claims with nary an article of proof - or conclusion for that matter - to back up their questionable claims.

I guess Ha' la' tha is guilty of the heinous crime of demanding a reasonable level of proof. How dare he!

Originally posted by rich23
And I liked the story about Von Braun's SS logo on the back of his NASA pin. Not that I 100% believe it, but it's a cool and unusual idea.

Von Braun was as anti SS, as one could be during his employ with the Third Reich - and there is plenty of evidence to support that! The SS logo story is absolute codswallop!!!

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Originally posted by StevesResearch
If the OP really did want to spill the beans he would've done so already.

Put yourself in this guy's position for a moment, if you had some explosive information to reveal to the public and decided to post such sensitive information online would you bother taking this long to get to the point? In the process losing the interest of many members of the public and raising concerns about your credibility? Not a very smart approach in my book.

If you were a real whistleblower you wouldn't jeopardise your well being by posting such information, which can easily be traced by TPTB, in the first place. You would more than likely go through someone you trust who can spread the information to a wide audience. Your information would be relayed via a 2nd or 3rd party at least to protect your identity. There's no security for you if you post on the net.

The OP has offered us nothing but a short story with a lot of technical jargon so far. Some find it captivating I find it tedious.

In my opinion if something were to come out, it would come out by accident, through someone making a mistake and information being leaked, not from someone claiming to be an ex NASA employee posting on a conspiracy website.

I just had to quote you in your entirety because you hit it right on the head old mate.

Spot on!

Anyone with a modicum of sense would be talking to the top level investigative journalists - not the less than discerning main stream of ATS.

Unless of course one was more interested in building a podium to gather the choir.

Hmmm. I wonder......

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Hey great post man, can't wait for the next installment.

Just goes to show the true colors of people on this site, they cry HOAX before you finish your story. I think the main reason is "THEY WANT THEY WANT AND THEY WANT IT NOW"

I respect your work and your brilliant writing ability, even I followed the story and put pictures to words. Love the way you broke the story up too, I can see that pisses some people off and I love watching people get angry over nothing.



S&F

Faster than light communication is possible, as is energy transmission using the same technique, and I know what's it's being used for, in the case of the rover.

This device downloads to Earth all the images that the rover has taken in an imaging session. Angelos (a murderous, global, secret male-only society related to the Roman Catholic Church) then examine the photographs. They look for indications of evidence of life, which they don't want you to know about, and caused the rover not to transmit, using the conventional radio comms, those parts of the image that has the evidence. You see these images on the NASA raw images page that occasionally have blacked out blocks of colour, and they say these images will be shown later.

This gives the Dark Beings, sorry the Angelos, the time to Photoshop the images to hide evidence of life, which are then uploaded to the rover at FTL speeds, which then transmits them back using radio, without the evidence of life.

I also know that the colour filters used on the rovers were swapped by the Angelo organisation before launch. This was to hide the true colour of Mars and its sky. They don't want you to know how Earth like Mars is.



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