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Originally posted by treemanx
reply to post by graaly
Nope! Kandinsky already posted the referenced quote from "John" on the last post of the first page. It appears that the Spirit Rover had potentially had a "faster than light transfer of info" or something similar while not responding to commands from NASA. John indicates that he believes it not associated with "aliens" but rather clandestine operations of our own technology perpetrated without the knowledge of NASA engineers.
At least that is how I took it. Thanks for the link anyways!
I was at JPL when a colleague of mine was working the Spirit glitch of January last year. He showed me what certainly appeared very strong evidence of faster than light communication. (I hesitate to use the word “proof” here, since as a scientist that term demands independent verification that was not possible. But it was effectively proven to me, by its repeatability, by our exclusion of other explanations, and by evidence we found which suggested it was intended.) Before you get the wrong idea, I am not invoking aliens here! This was surely our “stuff”. But the event was significant because my notion that I was part of a largely transparent organization was severely damaged. If this existed and was deployed under everyone’s noses, what else was (out) there?
Originally posted by YouSir
Ummm, your going to considerable trouble, with no evidence to the contrary, to try to discredit the OP. Why?
What are your motivations?
Who do you work for?
It reeks of suspicion to me that your so vehement in your attempts to browbeat and discredit, an unfinished post.
Also, is it a requirement that an OP present credentials to you or ATS?
That would run counter to the spirit and potential wellbeing of any whistleblower.
One might consider that if this FTL signal is clandestine, then perhaps the originators/receivers of said signal might not necessarily be known to JPL or NASA.
The signal may be alien, as in not of or originating from or to a US agency. Perhaps this purported communique was unknown to US interests and was only then being discovered.
Look, I'm not trying to be overly obtuse,
nor do I suffer from gullible tendencies,
but I will give the OP a chance to finish his post and maintain an open mind.
I also hardly think that a conspiracy forum isn't the best place to introduce a possible conspiracy.
I'm willing to give great latitude for an individuals posting preference or style.
All that being said, I'm not in a position to ascribe fact or fiction, ultimately I'm not in a position to know, regardless.
I also add that I'm overly and overtly sceptical about any and all topics in a conspiritorial setting, by the very nature of the setting and the subject matter.
You also can never prove as fact or fiction, any of the subjects discussed here.
Originally posted by jrmcleod
I understand what you are saying but you cannot put words into other people mouths, if people want to believe something then they will, no matter if the proof is in front of them that it is wrong...thats just human nature!
Originally posted by Mr Mask
He failed to answer critical questions on NASA's newest identification procedures (in his last long, boring, probably false post), showing he doesn't even know the basics to "entering the building" never mind any deep insight on to more spectacular details of NASA or the subjects he is "hinting at" with his LONG posts that answer nothing.