someone else may have responded to this (sorry if thats the case).
Originally posted by Portugoal
reply to post by Retrovertigo
Well you can argue the same for Christians. Not all Christians live every facet of their lives to be with other Christians.
My question is aimed more at the fact that atheists all have one fundamental belief (that God doesn't exist) and therefore can be classified as part
of a religion. The fact that atheists (not all or even a majority) congegrate on websites, basements, wherever, to express their beliefs sounds like
a religious experience to me.
the above post is incorrect. being an atheist does not preclude you from being an agnostic. in fact, most atheists are agnostics by default. and
agnostics can be inherently atheist because they've established, within themselves, a doubt of proof of a deity - of course agnostics can vary on
"how close" they are to believing in god or not, but by declaring agnosticism, they are indicating a lack of sureness of the existence of a deity.
there are agnostics who, for whatever reason refuse to cut the line, so they may be labeled as doubting believers.
atheism describes a lack of belief in a god or gods. it is not a declaration that there is no god. atheists don't know (that's why they're also
agnostics) because they have established to themselves that no evidence exists, in their view, to know. and they, generally, elect not to believe in
something for which there is no proof, particularly when it is a framework for understanding the world and living their life.
if your definition of religion is a fundamental belief (which is a dubious definition, but whatever), then atheists are obviously not religious. the
whole point is that there is no belief
. they lack a belief. there can be no fundamental belief or observance of belief when you define
yourself, in this arena, by the fact that you have no belief
. atheists typically do not indicate there is no god. they wouldn't know - the
whole point is there a lack of evidence for god, but there's a lack of evidence for god not existing, as well. given the lack of evidence, they
indicate no belief.
atheism, as defined by "believing that god does not exist" would imply there is a god and it is incumbent on people to choose whether or not to
believe in him. this is non-sensical.
if evidence was revealed that proved god, an atheist would then believe in god ... not by choice or through an angsty decision-making progress, but
because the evidence indicated that god exists. it's that simple. atheists do not deny god. there's nothing to deny!
the anecdotal stories of atheists congregating is specious and irrelevant to any possible thing i could ever think of.