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Massive Federal Raid in Lenawee County

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posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by tecumsah
It is often the fascists that use their own fronts elsewhere, to launch another offensive againsts the real freedom, covered and dripping in propaganda.


I see someone has finally analysed Glenn Beck, Employed by Rupert Murdoch, Neocon,
Imperialist, War Monger, Elite, PTB

Yes Glenn Beck is marching you away from Danger and his Boss who is best friends
with TPTB is too lazy to fire him




posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by firsttimecaller
Killing us by trying to keep us all heathy, huh? Those clever devils....


well not entirely
according to the news medical research I read
for this Obamacare to work for 30M
more people is that it requires 40,000 more doctors
which we don't have.

so we're gonna be billed under pretense
for a service we wont be able to find.
And if we dont pay it we get fined or lose property
or go to jail. sound just like NWO to me



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by KonigKaos
Do you have a link to Obama leaving early from the trip.


en.trend.az...

www.upi.com...

And guess what else??

It was rumored that Obama asked Karzai
to step down while he was there.
and so the cookie crumbles



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by tecumsah
It is often the fascists that use their own fronts elsewhere, to launch another offensive againsts the real freedom, covered and dripping in propaganda.


I see someone has finally analysed Glenn Beck, Employed by Rupert Murdoch, Neocon,
Imperialist, War Monger, Elite, PTB

Yes Glenn Beck is marching you away from Danger and his Boss who is best friends
with TPTB is too lazy to fire him




Boy if Glen Beck is part of the progressive movement why does he harp on them everyday? Also if I had some grand progressive plan I would not want to be teaching the lessons of the past. Information is power and if he is part of the plan the are not the sharpest tools in the shed.


I don't like Glen Beck because I think he is a clown and we are dealing with very serious issues and he makes jokes of them. But to say he is in on it with TPTB is a pure fantasy indulged in your mind by that hate you feel for him. Otherwise please show me how he fits into the progressive plan. Controlled opposition would be the only answer but if this was true I think he would act alot more like Bill O'reilly.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
I just read on the news that Obama has cut
his trip short and is coming back to US.

I wonder why????


Because the children can't behave when the teacher is out of the room. They start throwing desks and chairs.

I would be pissed if a bunch of redneck militia "christians" had thrown the country into another chaos moment the minute my back was turned!

From what I have seen of those militia websites in this thread---it makes dueling banjos look like tiptoe through the tulips. These people look and act creepy.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by whatukno
 



according to the militias, there were


19 arrested over several states




Michigan Militia member James Schiel, told AnnArbor.com
today that five people were arrested in the raids.


at Bayshore Estates..... Agents placed a handcuffed white
male wearing a black shirt into a silver car.


Seven people have been arrested for allegedly selling pipe
bombs in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana,

Six people were arrested as they came across the Ohio border
into Michigan. No news as of yet of who and what they were
arrested for.

wellregulatedamericanmilitias.com...




This is a very interesting confirmation!
So the op is right it is a strike on the militia in that area.



They are really showing off their new toys and gear in this raid that's for sure. But we will just have to wait and see if this is small time... or hopefully not another militia group in a different part of the country, or another one? or... we know what happens next i think?. I hope it doesn't happen this early that's for sure.

I know the militia in the United States are very strong, well armed and prepared though. Not so sure about here in Canada though



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 


The question was, where did you hear that he left EARLY?

for all we know that was the plan the entire time, go over to Afghanistan, bitch slap our little puppet president a while, then come back.

reply to post by Alethea
 


It's no where near as bad as the people in this thread are desperately trying to make it appear. What I still want to know is, if it is going down like these people are saying, why aren't the ones that swear up and down they are going to take action still typing on this site instead of going out and doing what they always tell us they are going to do?

Unless of course, they are just internet revolutionaries and complete and total spineless cowards who never had the intention of ever doing anything to begin with. Which also makes them liars.

But I digress, its a handful of arrests, and arrests don't mean conviction.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 02:10 AM
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Don't forget this one people-

Fake plot proposed, directed and funded by the federal government!





WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. – Four men accused of trying to bomb synagogues and shoot down planes in New York last spring did little more than go along with a fake plot proposed, directed and funded by the federal government, defense lawyers claim in asking the court to dismiss the case.



Couldn't be ANOTHER plot proposed, directed and funded by the Feds again, COULD IT?



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by tecumsah
It is often the fascists that use their own fronts elsewhere, to launch another offensive againsts the real freedom, covered and dripping in propaganda.


I see someone has finally analysed Glenn Beck, Employed by Rupert Murdoch, Neocon,
Imperialist, War Monger, Elite, PTB

Yes Glenn Beck is marching you away from Danger and his Boss who is best friends
with TPTB is too lazy to fire him




Boy if Glen Beck is part of the progressive movement why does he harp on them everyday? Also if I had some grand progressive plan I would not want to be teaching the lessons of the past. Information is power and if he is part of the plan the are not the sharpest tools in the shed.


I don't like Glen Beck because I think he is a clown and we are dealing with very serious issues and he makes jokes of them. But to say he is in on it with TPTB is a pure fantasy indulged in your mind by that hate you feel for him. Otherwise please show me how he fits into the progressive plan. Controlled opposition would be the only answer but if this was true I think he would act alot more like Bill O'reilly.


Buddy, he is on TV...

He is riling you guys up

Do you really think an operation like FOX is all hippy and lax on the message front?

Thats big business there man...

That company Sold the majority at the time, the WARS-

They are doing the same thing my friend and you guys are getting the same way.
Danger, danger, danger, yes things are *snip* up, but read these posts, step back
from it for a minute.

FOX who is leading this charge also was the News network who Defended the Government that put the Patriot act in place. They ran the interference, did the blocking, the spin, the JUSTIFICATION...

Now that was about the most unpatriotic legislation ever - I am asking you, look at the messenger. You do not do the entire PR campaign for the patriot act and then become a patriot all of a sudden dude. Glenn Becks Boss and Glenn Beck are close, so look at the RECENT past and the countless UNPATRIOTIC things FOX ran the Smoke screen for,
BAD CONSTITUTION SHREDDING THINGS.



I am not saying this for the hell of it...

Talk to me


Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 3/29/2010 by maria_stardust]



[edit on 29-3-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Consciousness

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by whatukno
 



according to the militias, there were


19 arrested over several states




Michigan Militia member James Schiel, told AnnArbor.com
today that five people were arrested in the raids.


at Bayshore Estates..... Agents placed a handcuffed white
male wearing a black shirt into a silver car.


Seven people have been arrested for allegedly selling pipe
bombs in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana,

Six people were arrested as they came across the Ohio border
into Michigan. No news as of yet of who and what they were
arrested for.

wellregulatedamericanmilitias.com...




This is a very interesting confirmation!
So the op is right it is a strike on the militia in that area.



They are really showing off their new toys and gear in this raid that's for sure. But we will just have to wait and see if this is small time... or hopefully not another militia group in a different part of the country, or another one? or... we know what happens next i think?. I hope it doesn't happen this early that's for sure.

I know the militia in the United States are very strong, well armed and prepared though. Not so sure about here in Canada though


Canada (or as I lovingly call it "The Government's Socialist Republik of Kanadakastan") has no militia, anywhere! With all the hoops you have to jump and crawl through to get an FAC, it's less time and cost consuming to just go buy a nice unit illegally. It's ridiculous! They want to make it so only criminals have guns, hmmm, I guess that includes police, we know how honest they are, right? I CC'd and OC'd for years in other countries, never a problem, but not in this stupid place.

Political correctness and fear of guns runs like an out of control extreme drug resistant TB. I can just imagine the crap we'd have to go through to organize a militia, we'd probably have to get a license from parliament and then they would audit us to make sure our slingshots, catapults and pointy sticks weren't too dangerous.

Apart from the politics and apathy, it's a beautiful country and the fishing is great!

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by tecumsah
It is often the fascists that use their own fronts elsewhere, to launch another offensive againsts the real freedom, covered and dripping in propaganda.


I see someone has finally analysed Glenn Beck, Employed by Rupert Murdoch, Neocon,
Imperialist, War Monger, Elite, PTB

Yes Glenn Beck is marching you away from Danger and his Boss who is best friends
with TPTB is too lazy to fire him




Boy if Glen Beck is part of the progressive movement why does he harp on them everyday?


Look at the string of posts here

ST, the thing that is destroying the world is that a hand full of insanely rich people
have so much money they can manipulate EVERYTHING. That is what is wrong with America too... These interests are from all over the world and they hold no alligence to
anything but their own power.

Don't you get it?

They run commercials to pay for FOX and MSNBC alike

they are Arabs, Brits, Jews, Japanese, etc...

They are the real threat here and abroad

Look around you??? Do you see all these evil Americans lurking about sir?

If Glenn is right you must see rally's, uniforms, signs, badges, graffiti, monuments

You don't see them because the simple fact is we are not out here plotting anything.

IF we are, we sure must be hiding really, really well right?

My final point is you NEED people to bust out your fascism

look at this - have you seen this here ST???






[edit on 29-3-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:09 AM
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This is why you do not officially join organizations that may be pitted against the government. The first thing the government will do is seize files, paper work, financial statements and computers. Then they will hunt down anyone they can pin something on and they will watch everyone connected with any organization the deem a "threat."


If you want to be in a militia, then you are already in one. If the SHTF and you decide to make a stand, when you step out onto the streets you will quickly identify your friends and foes. You don't need a patch, be on a newsletter, or know anyone to be in a militia.

If you take a stand, there will be others out there with you. Your already in a militia.








[edit on 29-3-2010 by A NeWorlDisorder]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:09 AM
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Great thread, aside from the bickering. Consider this event a learning experience.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out - as far as who was arrested and what the charges are. A few nutcases aside, 19 arrests seems a bit high to me.

Though I don't necessarily support the FBI's actions at least it seems they've learned how to take out their targets without escalating it into another Waco or Ruby ridge. Not to forget it was the stupid rednecks in the ATF that created the Waco fiasco, even though the FBI's lack of patience & poor decision making was directly responsible for burning to death of more than 20 innocent children. Again 4 times as many slaughtered children in Waco then were killed in OK, but we only hear about six children killed in OK in the MSM.



They always get you when you're unprepared, at work, at a wedding, or in this case at a funeral or while you're asleep.

For the life of me I really find it hard to believe all the threats & complaining I've read here and elsewhere about the heath care bill that has got people talking about revolution.

I don't know, I guess whoever is responsible for 911 is a friggin evil genius. Gave us the Patriot Act, destroyed the economy, and has turned the U.S. into a police state where everybody is a criminal.



[edit on 29-3-2010 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:15 AM
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reply to post by A NeWorlDisorder
 

exactly correct

enjoyed reading ur post
rock on



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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If it were a christian militia, my wish is that they stopped this one. Then again, when a person stands up in a business suit, you would never think he was financing the WOMD, it's so hard to tell:

Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006 07:43 EST
"These people should be court-martialed"
Former Air Force officer Mikey Weinstein says evangelicals are trying to turn his beloved military into a "frickin' faith-based initiative."
By Alex Koppelman

When a Christian group shot a video inside the Pentagon that featured uniformed senior military officers talking about their evangelical faith, Mikey Weinstein went on the attack. Himself a former Air Force lawyer and Air Force Academy grad, Weinstein, who is Jewish, is the founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. He founded the MRFF earlier this year to oppose the spread of religious intimidation in a military increasingly dominated by evangelical Christians.

more here
www.salon.com...

It's called dominionism

en.wikipedia.org...
Dominionism (also called subjectionism[1]) the tendency among some conservative politically-active Christians, especially in the United States, to seek influence or control over secular civil government through political action—aiming either at a nation governed by Christians, or a nation governed by a conservative Christian understanding of biblical law. The use and application of this terminology is a matter of controversy.


To tell you the truth, what is the difference really, being armed with the word, or the weapon. It's a !@$#% business. Billboards are advertising. They may kill each other, but how do WE protect ourselves and get away from their word? That word is mud. You have no way to tell by the common language - who will or will not die for the word. Or where that money goes. Trust and faith? those are fightin words?.

As with any good propaganda, there is fear Leave it to Fox News, I guess. The more they pump out, the more people run for gun closet...

As logic goes out the window, we have the right to sit protected against this insanity, (NOT to get them before they get us.) Janky you are a riler too, I think. For when they charismatically shoot for not proclaiming! Geezus..

[edit on 29-3-2010 by tecumsah]

[edit on 29-3-2010 by tecumsah]



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by gwydionblack
reply to post by antonia
 


Pipe bombs... lol. The disinfo begins.

Any organized militia I know wouldn't waste their time on something like pipe bombs. This shiz is going to get deep enough to wade through.



remember where that info came from ? Fox New's



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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The FBI said agents conducted weekend raids in three states and arrested at least three people, and a militia leader in Michigan said the target of at least one raid was a Christian militia group. (March 29)

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Just putting out reality into this thread.

People need to just make sure not to blow things out of proportion.

Use real news sites, not blogs. Find out what is really going on.

I think people are making this out to be WAY bigger than it really is.



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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is this what john titor was talking about

www.johntitor.com...


well if they are targeting a true militia < defenders of American Freedom
like how Revolutionary WAR was won Civil WAR was help with

this is a must read the highlight in this article warning anti John titor site ?
johntitor.strategicbrains.com...
www.godlikeproductions.com...
not a crazed religious militant group

ATS thread from 2004
John Titor Timetravel_0: The ATS John Titor Project
www.abovetopsecret.com...

when they start raiding reservations(Native American, Indian) Warriors Society < defenders of the people in that reservation! sort of the reservation's own National Guard .

Then I will Have a problem 5 states so far if its spreads 2 words ( Stand Bye )

if its a hoax ok if not lets see



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno



The FBI said agents conducted weekend raids in three states and arrested at least three people, and a militia leader in Michigan said the target of at least one raid was a Christian militia group. (March 29)

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Just putting out reality into this thread.

People need to just make sure not to blow things out of proportion.

Use real news sites, not blogs. Find out what is really going on.

I think people are making this out to be WAY bigger than it really is.


Right.

And, just what constitutes "real news sites"? Would that be Main Stream Medis? Oh, yes we can trust them, for sure! NOT

Please site proof thet "...people are making this out to be WAY bigger than it really is."



posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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The post above yours is a prime example.



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