reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Didn't you say;
So, you think that a shuttle launch can be purposely sabotaged, despite the hundreds of people involved in the maintenance and launch of that shuttle?
You really think all of those people could be kept quiet about something like that?
That, to me at least, is insinuating that a complex, computer and software controlled machine with many, many thousands of integrated and interlinked
parts, many of which are not checked because they are either impossible to visually inspect being buried somewhere in the superstructure, or they are
on a benign electronics circuit not deemed critical to vehicle integrity, cannot be nobbled by virtue of a large number of employees having access to
the shuttle. Anyone can be gotten at, the same as any machine can be too.
If a president is assassinated, despite hundreds of very aware and very vigilant security personnel and equipment, does that imply that these hundreds
of security people and associated equipment have to be in on the conspiracy to assassinate, simply because they (in your argument) would have to have
known about it?
No, of course not. And there are several examples to look at.
You know your computer system that you are using now, right?
There is probably systems in place to guard against idiots trying to sabotage it's software yes? Yet despite your guarding against these people, and
taking reasonable steps to inspect it's software integrity and safety, these people sometimes manage to get in, and plant Trojans, Viruses, and
How can it be possible for them to corrupt your system, if you are taking steps to ensure it's safety?
That is just a simple example of complexity facilitating ease of manipulation.
If, for example the computer wasn't connected to the net, had no modem, and you never loaded any external software, which would obviously be LESS
complexity as regards your computer system, it would probably never get infected or hijacked.
Although, even though the computer had become MUCH less complex in the example, it is still not impossible for it to be compromised, just much more
With something as complex as a shuttle and all associated command and control and computer systems, hidden and routinely inaccessible areas both on
the actual vehicle and on the control equipment, and ironically, the large numbers of people involved, the ability to manipulate it's systems
Let's go back to your computer analogy.
If you were the only person on a remote island, with your computer (with the same isolated system as described before) you could be reasonably certain
that the system cannot be compromised.
If you were on the same island, with 100 other people, you could not be certain the system could not be compromised, as at any time in you absence,
any one or more of those 100 people may access it, and place a hidden programme, change genuine IC for dummies, plant virus, keyloggers, or anything
So you see..the more people that have access to a complex system the greater the opportunity for manipulation, not less.
Edit to add;
My argument is that complex systems such as the shuttle can indeed be 'gotten at' if desired, and the right key people were involved.
I do not however, think or even suspect that the shuttle is going to be 'nobbled', or used as part of a false flag operation.
Although, if they blamed 'terrorists', it may cause enough outrage to deflect attention away from something else, although i personally feel this is
unlikely to be the case.
[edit on 28/3/2010 by spikey]