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Originally posted by esdad71
The audio on the video should have reported explosions and the sound of the rumbling is not an explosion. When using a camera to record you usually have a cheap mic built into the camera or if you are a larger production company you may have a boom. That would mean you are using a condenser type mike that will pick up anything. Anything.
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by esdad71
The audio on the video should have reported explosions and the sound of the rumbling is not an explosion. When using a camera to record you usually have a cheap mic built into the camera or if you are a larger production company you may have a boom. That would mean you are using a condenser type mike that will pick up anything. Anything.
Your explanation is nothing but a bunch of vague guesses that seem to be based on absolute zero knowledge of the industry we are discussing. Evil Incarnate has addressed the points I have tried to discuss with you about this. Now, are you only going to offer this vague bit of nothing that seems to demonstrate no real knowledge or can you address the points the Evil brought up again?
I am just really interested to know. You are not the only one that makes this claim but the only one that seems to be willing to defend it by skirting it so often.
I am more than willing to hear from anyone that can explain to me why they should expect to hear the explosions they claim never happened because they did not hear them in the youtube video.
Anyone...
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Still don't see it. I see debris being forced out by the collapse.
There is an enormous amount of power created by the fall.
If you don't see it, its because you don't want to see it.
The big white flashes of explosives are clearly pointed out in OP video.
If that's not enough for you, then nothing will be enough.
[edit on 1-4-2010 by mnemeth1]
Originally posted by esdad71
If the videos were taken with a hand held, an explosions would easily register on it. It would be a loud, distorted BANG or BOOM. This is because the small mic cannot handle the frequencies or the db thrown at it.
Originally posted by esdad71
I have seen this video and I have 2 things to say.
First, there were explosions in the WTC 7 before it collapsed. There are eyewitnesses who can confirm this.
All I can tell you about the audio track is that at the 5 second mark it sounds like there is a track switch or new track introduced to the video. I am going to try to get a good recording of it and throw it in Audition to see if I can see any 'differences' in the track. To me it does sound way to clear however if you were blocks away in NY it could be a natural filter based on the buildings.
Originally posted by esdad71
If the videos were taken with a hand held, an explosions would easily register on it. It would be a loud, distorted BANG or BOOM. This is because the small mic cannot handle the frequencies or the db thrown at it.
Hi Lunar, quite a few posters actually think that is what the flashes are...or some kind of electrical stressing. I'm intrigued by these "concrete" columns however. Where were they in the building? There were box steel colums at the core, 54 by 22 inches up to around 60 stories and higher up I presume an I-beam of some, (varying) sizes.
Originally posted by lunarminer
I don't suppose that anyone has considered that the flashes could be electrical junctions shorting out as their support columns colapased? Electric arcs are very very bright and could be visible in broad daylight.
Also, the towers were made of prestessed concrete under a pressure of 3000 psi. When the cables inside the columns snapped, the columns blew themselves apart. The force released by the columns blowing themselves apart would look just like an explosion. No need for explosives under these circumstances.
Surely, anyone who would be involved in a conspiracy to bring the towers down would know about the prestressed columns. What I find funny is how so many conspiracy theorists fail to do their homework and fail to learn anything about the construction of the towers.
Originally posted by evil incarnate
Originally posted by esdad71
If the videos were taken with a hand held, an explosions would easily register on it. It would be a loud, distorted BANG or BOOM. This is because the small mic cannot handle the frequencies or the db thrown at it.
OK. If that is what you believe. You obviously have no clue how sound is recorded on any video. You cannot even answer simple questions about it. I have given you many things to explain away and all you can say is that if it were a handheld it would register???? Based on what? Please explain why it would. I can explain why it would not.
Look, get over this hearing things in the videos. You have not a clue as to what you are saying. Besides, if you are relying on videos for evidence, then you have to include all the VIDEOS of people talking about EXPLOSIONS that they both saw and heard. You cannot cherry pick, especially when it is based on ignorance.
I am not looking for some personal bicker fest with you. I just know how it works and your empty explanations prove that you do not. That is all beside the point though. Do you really think all the witnesses on video talking about explosions are wrong but you watching a youtube video on your laptop can tell better?
P.S. It does not matter what you are listening to it on. It does not matter what your computer can and cannot do. If it did not record properly, it will not be there. That is yet another demonstration in ignorance. The very fact that you believe you have the technology to hear sounds that were not recorded kind of kills any hope of having a logical conversation with you.
Originally posted by esdad71
I am also not going to get over sounds on video either. I am referring in this thread to ONE video right now and it is the now infamous firefighters at the phone booth.
Also, this is not a bickering contest as I know what I am talking about but So Please explain to me why an explosion would not appear as audio in a hand held video? If you are in this industry or know something about it post it as I would welcome what your thoughts are.
Originally posted by esdad71
Also, this is not a bickering contest as I know what I am talking about but So Please explain to me why an explosion would not appear as audio in a hand held video? If you are in this industry or know something about it post it as I would welcome what your thoughts are.