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Illegals will take over America (so says God)

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posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by heliosprime
The issue has NEVER been about imagration, its about ILLEGAL invasion of america. The "stranger" is obviously an outsider from the local inhabitants.

Europeans did come to this land and made it into the greatest superpower in world history. Europeans who rebelled against the vileness of tyranny to find freedom. All done at the grace fo God. Now american is falling back into the darkness of paganisim.............


You do realize that from the viewpoint of native Americans the Europeans coming over was like an illegal invasion, right? Those settlers were the "strangers"!!!

But the Europeans were god fearing people, and the native Americans weren't...so I guess that justified slaughtering thousands of them, right?


You are certainly correct. Many along the way saw this country as a land filled with Canaanites and acted according to these ideas.



[edit on 27-3-2010 by Logarock]




posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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IN order for illegal immigrants to take over the US, they would have to completely empty out Mexico, which means we could then all move to mexico. I call shotgun on Cancun!



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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I've just started to read this thread in another way. If the Christian God says it's going to happen, what's the problem? Why fight it? The American Religious Right can't fight what God's said is to be, can they?

Also, this reminds me of the reasoning and logic behind 'terrible events' - why did God allow the Holocaust (insert bad thing here)? and so on. There's always meant to be a reason for it, usually some round the houses way that's actually meant for our own good. So why would this be different?

Also, God would have known this before the first Europeans ever got to America, including those Pilgrims. Just think, he'd have been looking down on them, struggling to load those first ships and smiling benignly as they reasoned to themselves: 'Don't worry Sarah, all this heavy lifting and a big sail to a strange new world on the other side of the ocean is all worthwhile. God wanted to this to happen.'

To me, it's as if Christians who are inspired by God, are only told stuff on a heavenly need to know basis. 'Yeah, Pilgrims, sail across the sea. Go on. Yes, it's a bit like Noah. Hurry up, get in the ship. No you don't need that. Or that. It's warmer over there, you won't need two coats. Come on, get in the ship, for My Sake!' He doesn't seemed to have told them that it's all in vain.

Besides, in Part Two, doesn't a big monster come and destroy New York but Jesus rolls up and saves the day but not life as we know it?

[edit on 27-3-2010 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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They are trying their best here in Britain too... 6,7 or 8 kids per couple.... it's not looking good and there's already shortages of space and homes... i think we'll need to ship a lot back to where they came



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Wouldn't this bible verse completely negate your premise?:


Micah 4:3-5 "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hat spoken it. For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever."


King James Version
emphasis added by me

Further, when faced with people with differing views, he opted to do nothing to harm them:


Luke 9:52-56: "...they did not receive him...And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village."



I think that if you choose to find negativity and racism in the Bible, you can do so. I also think that if you choose to find love and tolerance, you can do that as well.

I personally choose the latter.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Didnt this guy take a whip to the money changers? Granted it wasnt "fire" but it may have felt like it for a spot.

And what about Jesus parable about the man brought before the king and slain? Better a millstone around the neck, weeping, gnashing of teeth, rod of iron ect ect. Same guy. "Consume His enimies with a Sword out of his mouth".

Anyway the first part of scripture you posted is about a day yet to come. We have much of that here and now in this country. Which was mentioned but you apparently didnt see that. Plus OP was not talking violence and was certainly looking into an area of scripture. So spare us the one up super spritual stuff, it has a certain smell to it.

What we are talking about here doesnt smell to good but we are open an honest about it and not hiding behind the mask.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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mexicains are cathlic mostly I have talked to many of them they worship the cristion god just as christions do so what was that about ideals again?



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627


I think that if you choose to find negativity and racism in the Bible, you can do so. I also think that if you choose to find love and tolerance, you can do that as well.

I personally choose the latter.


Choose what you will, Jesus said this also....Matt 10:


34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.


Too many focus on the part that makes them feel better about their sins and forget the punishment part....

Jesus was perfect before his father because of his observance of the commandments......

America has abandoned those commandments, america allows.....murder of the unborn, gay marriage, corruption in DC, porn, the filth of hollywood, throwing God out of education, the list goes on.

The "goats" will come to judgment day very soon, america is allowing them to drag down the rest of us.

The point is america was once blessed of God, and now is cursed for abandoning HIM and his commandments......



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by xxcalbier
mexicains are cathlic mostly I have talked to many of them they worship the cristion god just as christions do so what was that about ideals again?


err catholics pray to false gods and worship false idols.............



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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errrrr, if it weren't for Catholicism, there would be no organized Christianity. It would be just as well as far as I am concerned. However, I thought you'd like to know that little tidbit.


Funny, "Christians" find it so easy to criticize the beliefs of others, yet they do not even know the history of their own religion.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by heliosprime

America has abandoned those commandments, america allows.....murder of the unborn, gay marriage, corruption in DC, porn, the filth of hollywood, throwing God out of education, the list goes on.

The "goats" will come to judgment day very soon, america is allowing them to drag down the rest of us.

The point is america was once blessed of God, and now is cursed for abandoning HIM and his commandments......



You're just using your warped version of religion to justify and explain things you don't like.

I think porn is great, Hollywood makes a good movie once in a while, gays should be allowed to marry (doesn't hurt anyone!!!), and God should stay out of education since no one can prove their God is the right one!

If you think the States are cursed now because God is angry...think again. Read an economics book and accept that people in power are greedy. It doesn't have anything to do with God being mad.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
reply to post by heliosprime
 


errrrr, if it weren't for Catholicism, there would be no organized Christianity. It would be just as well as far as I am concerned. However, I thought you'd like to know that little tidbit.


Funny, "Christians" find it so easy to criticize the beliefs of others, yet they do not even know the history of their own religion.


Not really man. The first church council was held a few years after Christ ascension long before the Catholics proper.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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how can a citizen of earth be illegal?
just being open-minded.
don't mind me.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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While there will be argument for or against the notion that America is a Christian nation, the fact is, is that it is. America and Israel are forever united. Israel considers itself the nation and people of God through Moses, Abraham, and Jacob. America sees itself as the people and nation of God through Jesus, and also through links to the old testament. America is sheep of another fold that Jesus talked about that he said he must bring with them (the Jews).

America is the adopted brother of Israel and it's main purpose is to protect and defend the little nation like family.

But America has lost it's way and is in danger of first being disciplined by a loving God before punished by a just God. That is why when you see the nation begin to be eaten out of house and home by foreigners, and the people of the nation indebted to them you know that the curse has come.

But all is not lost, yet. There is time to change and reconsider our ways before we go into captivity.

2cd Chronicles 7:14

" If my people which are called by my name, will humble themselves, seek my face and pray, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and forgive their sin, and heal their land. "


But if we do not, God says that our enemies shall come against us one way and we shall flee from them seven ways. Sickness and the death shall befall the nation and our enemies shall rule over us.


The choice is ours to make. And silence in the sight of wickedness is the same as consenting to it.



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by jaden_x
how can a citizen of earth be illegal?
just being open-minded.
don't mind me.


well if you are so "open minded" why do you have doors on the place you live? just take down the doors and let anyone off the street come live with you, eat your food, sleep in your bed...........

alowwing illegals in the country is no different.



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
reply to post by heliosprime
 


errrrr, if it weren't for Catholicism, there would be no organized Christianity. It would be just as well as far as I am concerned. However, I thought you'd like to know that little tidbit.


Funny, "Christians" find it so easy to criticize the beliefs of others, yet they do not even know the history of their own religion.


actually the catholic church destroyed the original gospel spread by the original 12 apostles. they were sent out by Jesus to the lost sheep of Israel..............then so called monks destroyed that truth where ever they found it after around 300 AD. They replaced it with "pauline" doctrine......



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by jaden_x
how can a citizen of earth be illegal?
just being open-minded.
don't mind me.


I'm not joking but have you ever thought that there are Aliens down here already? From elsewhere?

Ok, i think we started off from another planet anyway but maybe we were followed by Hostile people or Aliens!!



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 10:40 PM
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There is alot of crime going on in the southern border of the USA where Mexico and the USA meet, so maybe we should tag every car so that It can be used to help with Amber Alerts and to find Missing Children. Statistically, most children are abducted by a parent and with the data and resources we will create, we should be able to help with some of these cases.
It can be used by Law Enforcement Agencies. Stolen cars can be located and returned to their owners. Police detectives can also use this to help locate known criminals and take them off our streets.
We can also help to find Missing Persons. Often there are rewards offered to help find a missing person and we can be part of the solution.
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