reply to post by endisnighe
I didn't say Bernanke and Paulson WOULD be taxed to pay for it - I said the "SHOULD" be taxed -- if this were a fairer world. Even better, they'd
be in prison.
Who exactly are you laughing at? Do I know things are corrupt and WRONG? Yes. That doesn't take a genius.
But this nonsense about "we can't afford Social Security" is promoted by the very people you say run our government. They do, as long as everyone
has this attitude. All the things that HELP the public at large, are demonized and "expensive" and saying "the government ripped off social
security" doesn't mean that we should end a program that keeps millions of retirees from starving to death -- as well ad help orphans and people who
are permanently disabled.
What alternative is there, for people who CANNOT provide for themselves? You live in a society, and you can complain all you like about "taxes" and
the government and inefficiency -- but the alternative to "government that is not perfect, nor even close to being good" is total anarchy.
How bad do you really have it, that you'd prefer grabbing a shotgun and protecting your house, and stealing cans of food or turnips from a garden?
The only alternative to "EVIL GOVERNMENT" is letting corporations run everything or total anarchy.
Libertarianism does not have any REALITY based solution that ever worked in the real world. Total non-interventionist government without regulations
looks a good bit like Haiti. Is there a government that is less corrupt, responsive to the public, and doesn't rip people off? Yes. But those are
Democratic Socialist countries. Are there more corrupt and less responsive governments that have more Libertarian principles? Yeah, they are called
George Bush did nothing but create more military and less government regulation and bigger tax breaks and it didn't grow a single job. All the GDP
growth in this country was due to borrowing from China. The worst SOCIALIST experiment in America came from FDR -- and we've been coasting on the
infrastructure and the increased wealth that created since the 1980's.
This country no longer exports much, and it's main source of revenue is financial services and weapons production, copyrights and patents. Even the
weapons require parts from other countries. There is nothing that can sustain us if the rest of the world doesn't want to put up with our crap
anymore beyond our ability to launch nuclear weapons. We are totally dependent on the entire world - and YOU AND I are totally dependent on an
infrastructure that requires electricity, the Internet, roads, trains, communications, and a lot of people doing their jobs.
Your grocery store, drug store, and gas station have about a 3-day supply.
You cannot run everything through government and you cannot let everything be up to a profit-inspired business, it all takes a balance of interests.
Do I like paying taxes, do I like the Federal Reserve system? No. That system is rigged and broken and the GOVERNMENT should be in charge of banking
and creating money -- because we don't WANT it to be the principle source of revenue. If Financial services were very boring and very simple and
useless for making money -- then it would force people to make money by MAKING THINGS and building up businesses rather than raiding them through a
venture capital scam.
All the "social welfare programs" are a drop in the bucket compared to what it costs us to NOT have Government regulation. We do not have a good
system -- but it is the one we are kind of functioning in.
After all the violence against Democrats signing the Health Care Reform bill, the Media has started to wake up and wonder "maybe all this violent
talk is going a bit too far" -- where have they been for 10 years?
The thing is; ditching Social Security because some in Government has ripped it off, is a useless, unproductive and cold-hearted move. You would
instantly shut down the economy, because businesses depend on all these people who CANNOT WORK, spending their SS Check. Money is really ONLY useful,
if people can use it to transact for goods and services, and that means that POOR PEOPLE, need money too -- or they get no goods and services from
Business. That means they either starve, or the government steps in.
There is plenty of corruption in Business -- 90% of the Medicare fraud is from large corporations -- not the public or doctors. The "NON-Free
Market" military, is expensive, but the mercenary troops that are now part of the scene, have no code of conduct and cost ten times more.
If you let the FREE MARKET take care of people -- there is no lowest common denominator to limit them. If someone will work for $3, and there is no
Welfare to compete with that wage -- someone will eventually work for $1, or $.27 an hour as they did in Haiti. There is no incentive to educate
anyone for business -- they'd rather someone else pay for that. But eventually, if all the people in the world were making what Haitians do, there
would be NO reason to make anything to sell to them, or support them in any way.
WE can fix the system we have, or let it all fall to pieces. If we just get rid of government, what fills the vacuum is the worst exploitation and
Grow up and deal with what you have, before saying that it all can go to Hell -- you and you're friends have not lived there and you do not know how
good you have it until it is all gone. If the banks and dollar all fails -- the ONLY thing that could keep all our services going is a new currency
and just giving people an allowance until order is established -- that's if everything doesn't just break down.