Are you happy?, page 3
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reply posted on 27-3-2010 @ 05:58 PM by NoHierarchy
Happiness... that can have so many nuanced meanings.

Personally I am absolutely open to happiness, laughter, love, friendship, good times, fond memories, sunshine, flowers, holidays, and all that jazz. I can enjoy the little things. However... in the grand scheme of my life I am quite unhappy.

There is an internal and an external side to this. The internal is that I feel as if I lack many options in life. Sure everybody LOVES to tell my generation (I'm 24) that we can do ANYTHING we want, happiness is a CHOICE, you can have anything if you MAKE IT HAPPEN, but the reality is typically quite different and not so triumphant. I don't know a SINGLE PERSON who has successfully employed the mental BS you hear in self-help books (usually written by rich people who want to get richer on book sales AND/OR who are sick of feeling helpless about the state of the world AND/OR they're just sick of poor people bitching). I feel like I've been lied to, perhaps intentionally, perhaps unintentionally, perhaps both. I feel like, even being a very smart and conscientious person, nobody's going to help me out and I have to fight my way to the "top" (whatever the hell that means). I see many people forced to feel the same. And yes, contrary to what self-help gurus (with hardly any actual education on human behavior/society) tell us, society CAN have a coercive effect on people in both direct and indirect ways, both obvious and barely noticeable. Essentially... what sucks is being poor and not having a large/healthy/strong support network of people to function as an egalitarian community. People are depressed about this because it's a serious lacking. I'm not saying money is the answer, I'm saying that feeling SECURE is the answer. And even Americans, being richer than most of the rest of the world's poor, still don't feel secure in what they have and where they're headed... or at least I dont yet. The worst part about it is, Americans are so satiated by intense (but temporary) material luxuries, gluttony, and spectacles that our oppression and depression is attacked by this guilt of superficiality. So, not only are we oppressed in the deeper ways, but we're prevented from complaining about it because we have so many superficial luxuries and we are told that that SHOULD BE enough for us to be happy. But as we all know, happiness is not material possessions, happiness is having your needs met, some of your reasonable wants met, and most importantly- having a loving/supportive community that helps us become better people without coercing us. I feel like I'm going in circles... but the bottom line is, in order for modern people to be secure, they must work and toil at some arbitrary job for most of their lives to receive arbitrary currency which is then funneled back into the system via arbitrary consumerism. We evolved to live in easy-going tight-knit tribes in the wilderness, not massive centralized techno-capitalist-worker-consumer hives. We will not simply "evolve" to live within the society we've been born into... that's not how evolution works. What we have is a society that, in too many ways, fights the currents of human-nature and the environment and bends them towards a mindless and ambiguous agenda that isn't ULTIMATELY controlled by any person or group but more so represents a runaway civilization carrying all of us along for the ride.

Regardless of the inevitability of this system at this point, it is still regrettable and even unacceptable, and at the very least an obvious systemic explanation for most of our social anxieties, depressions, neuroses, insecurities, and so on. There seem to be too many people and too few resources, both physical and social, to go around. This leaves a great too many left struggling endlessly for water, food, shelter, safety, health, money, love, happiness itself, dominance, control, acceptance, recognition, community, etc. And with no other good/obvious options, people can turn to some pretty bad things to fill those needs. Our society forces too much competition within anonymous crowds of people we dont know... sort of like an economic Gladiator pit. Then when we come home, we remain in that mindset, drained from it, time stolen by it, and therefore unable to develop and maintain many deep and strong relationships even with close family, significant others, children, LET ALONE an entire tribe/community. I'm not saying this is the rule for everybody, even myself. I have deep/loving/supportive relationships (partially because I have opened myself up to them). But in many ways, and in many places, we've lost the ability to provide for ourselves adequately/consistently and as a group without so many forces breaking things apart and creating a constant lonely struggle. The more money you have the more this struggle gets its edges softened or erased, but for the vast majority those edges cut every day; and even money doesn't fulfill deeper human needs.

I went off on a huge tangent and I apologize if any of that was too verbose, repetitive, or poorly explained, but I'm kind of ranting anyway, and in a world so globalized, interwoven, amplified, and historic as this, it all ties together. When we address human happiness we must think holistically on local/global/internal/external/individual/interpersonal levels, otherwise we're being inaccurate and anecdotal.

This isn't to say there aren't many beautiful things in the world right now, both natural and man-made. This is both a wondrous and terrifying time to live in and we MUST allow ourselves to enjoy as much as we can while we work to change whatever we're unhappy with. I love and am inspired by many things in this world, as I'm sure you all are in your own ways.

Ultimately I think happiness is having the freedom/opportunity/time/security to do essentially what you want to do with your life, with the vast ability to enjoy the simple things without worry, as well as having the purpose of people you can support and be supported by in a loving/positive way.
Huh...
Wouldn't that be nice?


reply posted on 28-3-2010 @ 01:53 AM by romanmel
reply to post by silent thunder



Bravo! You are so correct. People need to be thankful for their lot. We can all find one person more needy than ourselves. What helps us even more is if we find that person more needy, that we share some of our good fortune with them. Then we can all be happy!


reply posted on 28-3-2010 @ 02:25 PM by autowrench
Happy? Yes, I'm as happy as can be, taking into account all that has happened, and the way things here in America have become of late. I'm 56, no spring chicken anymore, and I have been around the block, so to speak. I have many things to be thankful for, first off all that I found the Goddess, who has showered me with much that I may not deserve. A hot young wife and two young children to raise, once again I get the parent experience at an advanced age! And the love of a woman half my age who loves me to death.

I give thanks for my own two kids, one a Bob Evans General Manager, one a top automotive engineer and mechanical genius. One with a mind like a computer, the other with the mind of a warrior. I give thanks for the nice, on the inside anyway, home where we all live, and for the nice Chevy Van we have to drive. In many ways I have more now that times in the past. Mostly I give thanks for my knowledge, I would not take any thing whatsoever for that. My reading ability is again something to be thankful for, and even though now i need glasses to see the pages, I can still learn things, and do not feel right if a day goes by that I do not learn something new. I learned a few things just by reading this thread.

I am happy that I live in the Mountains, never again will I live on flat ground. The air is clean, and fresh, and the natural spring water I am drinking tastes good, not like the bottled water most are forced to drink. So, yes, with all said and done, I am happy!


reply posted on 28-3-2010 @ 02:45 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by silent thunder



Really great post!

Yes I'm happy! I have a roof over my head, enough to eat, medical care, love, laughter, family, friends, animals, my health, intelligence, sense of humor, property, I live in a wonderful town, I have a great attitude... What's not to be happy about?

But happiness is a state of mind... a choice each person makes. And I make that choice all the time. I see it as my obligation. I could list just as many negative things that might contribute to "unhappiness" but I don't focus on them. They are not important. What's important is to appreciate what I have in life and to share as much love as I can with the world. To contribute to the Good Will in the world, rather than take away from it.

Yes, I'm very happy.


reply posted on 30-3-2010 @ 04:51 PM by Melyanna Tengwesta
Originally posted by silent thunder
Peple tend to define their happiness based on the situations of those around them. A man with two pieces of fruit in a primative tribe where everyone else has one piece feels like a king. A millionaire in a room full of billionaires feels like a loser.


Altough I understand what you are trying to say I disagree with you.

On a 'material' level and maybe even on a 'social' level I do not score high. Life struggels on, there are always issues one has to deal with, stuff to do, things to handle.

We do NOT have loads of money, unlike the many millonaires in the world, we live from a 'normal income' and sometimes have to be creative to make ends meet. So that's NOT the source of my happiness.

I had an almost fatal accident, 16 yrs ago (2 months coma and all that). Am still partially paralized (one leg), have severe health issues due to this accident and my old lifestyle. So NO, that's not the source of my happiness either.

I have a lot of family issues and I have tried till this year to get together with each and every member, only to realize last month it will never happen. Not due to my efforts or due to me being forgiving and keep on trying but due to the fact that there needs to be a balance in interhuman contact, 2 parties have to make true efforts to reconsile. So, that isnt my Source of happiness either!

Although I FEEL for all those people, with all the empathy in me, I have to say: how dark and awful your life may look like, there ALWAYS is a spark of Light somewhere. Focus on that spark and it will grow bigger and brighter ))

The Source of my Happiness is the fact that I am able to see the good, the postive and the Light in life. And I simply refuse to get dragged down (again) in the darkness of material issues or issues I cannot change anyway.

Take live as it comes. Go with the flow, don't resist, let go. Smile, even on those days that tragedy seems to take over and you feel as if you drown. Even tragedy has it's comic side

Peace!



[edit on 3/30/2010 by Melyanna Tengwesta]
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