Let me start by saying this is NOT another thread to discuss whether or not the HCB is good or bad.
Lately, it seems as if every third thread is about the HCB, and most have paranoid titles such as "HCB forces you to get chip implants", "OMG,
illegal aliens will get free healthcare", "Communism, ahhhhhhhh...constitution!!". Quite frankly it's starting to piss me off because I like this
forum, and it's a pain to wade through dozens of threads that all seem to use the same talking points circulating in the MSM.
The goal of this thread is to debunk some of those talking points. I'd like to think that people come to ATS to discuss things rationally, do their
homework before posting, and not just parrotting whatever Beck, Olbermann, etc shove down your throat. Hopefully that'll make future discussions more
productive and cut down on the level of flat out lies.
So let's start off
1. DEATH PANELS
Oldy but goldy. It's been debunked a few times by now, but it always seems to come back to haunt us. Palin used the word "death panel" quite a
Basically, it's based on the section of the bill that talks about “advance care planning consultations”. Opponents of the bill used this wording
to state it talks about old people having to show up infront of a panel to sign some sort of "early death pact".
In reality, the bill language seeks to require Medicare to cover the cost of counseling sessions with doctors on end-of-life issues if a
person chooses to have one. Currently, these kinds of sessions aren’t covered by Medicare, and people without extra money often can’t afford to
have them. I don't know about you, but a lot of people will appreciate those meetings, especially if it's not a meeting with the government (lol) as
some people stated. So no death panels, sorry to burst your bubble.
2. It ends private insurance and reduces employer sponsored programs
Fact (Sec 102 incl. subsection C):
Most of the uninsured will be pushed into private insurance. After the bill becomes law, all new health
insurance plans will have to be purchased through the Health Insurance Exchange, which, according to a House committee summary, is a “marketplace
for individuals and small employers to comparison shop among private and public insurers.” It's all about increasing choice and competition in the
marketplace between both public and private health insurance options, not limiting choice. Every economist knows that if competition increases, prices
generally come down, and/or the product quality improves. More choice is a good thing!! In addition the House bill is expected to increase the number
of employer insurance packages by 2mil until 2019.
3. The bill will give free health care to illegal immigrants
This one's often fueled by racism, but either way, it's completely wrong and nonsense.
Fact (Sec 152):
“Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services
(including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics
extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.”
The above text is one of the examples that partisan hacks used to mislead the public. If you read subsection C however, you get
“Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United
The "individual affordability credits" mentioned is the only possible thing that could be interpreted as FREE HEALTHCARE. However, since illegal
aliens aren't lawfully present in the US, there's no way in hell they'll get anything according to the bill.
Again, the statement of free healthcare for illegal aliens is total bull****.
4. The government will have real-time access to your bank accounts
This myth was started by good old Rush Limbaugh...and then parrotted by a ton of right-wing media TV reporters...and even the leftwing media for a
while. It states that in section 163, the bill grants the government access to your bank accounts.
Fact (Section 163 & 1173):
It is not real-time access to a person’s bank records, but rather, real-time access for health care providers to
information relating to a person’s insurance coverage. And guess what, you already provide access even without the healthcare bill whenever you make
a claim...to your insurance information, NOT your bank account!
In section 1173, they talk about private financial records...and Limbaugh promptly used that as well to state the government will access your bank
accounts. One line of the section attempts to standardize electronic administrative transactions, such as electronic fund transfers that occur between
insurance companies and health care providers for the purpose of administrative simplification. Another line enables electronics funds transactions to
allow “automated reconciliation” of health care costs. This would basically amount to nothing more than an automatic online bill-pay system for
people to pay their premiums every month.
There is no language
in HCB that would make it legal for the government to have direct, real-time access to individual bank accounts. The bill
even includes basic requirements that all personal data that is collected under the provisions is used in a matter that meets privacy and security
laws, and it restricts “inappropriate” uses, including use of such data in determinations of eligibility (or continued eligibility) in health
5. Public money will fund abortions
Yes, and Obama will personally rip one fetus after the other out of mothers who want get rid of their 2 week old baby. He will also claim the rights
for the placenta of their next kid should they ever decide to have one. This is about as true as the claim that public money will fund abortions!!
NOTHING in the bill overrides the Hyde Amendment which states that no federal funds may be used for abortions. Don't believe me?
Read for yourself!
[edit on 26-3-2010 by MrXYZ]