Ancient Symbolism, Modern Astronomy and My Theory

Ever have one of those dreams where you wake up, reeling with some dumbfounding knowledge that was just imparted to you within that dream? That's what happened to me recently, and I've been trying to figure out how to approach it methodically to share with everyone. I will attempt to do that here.

Now, on to the issue...

It must be known that I do not approach religion and beliefs from one corner only. I have always felt that there is wisdom and knowledge to be gained from every walk of life and every belief system, and to some degree, can be viewed much like a massive puzzle in which the pieces are found throughout every major religion and every time line. So, where do I start....this is the hard part....

OK, let's view eastern philosophy first, and their understanding of Chakras, and how everything in life echoes out from the smallest particle (subatomic particles) to the largest body (universes), in an identical fashion. What we find in the activities of subatomic particles, we see echoed in the activities in universes, and also at every level in between. This is called the Fibonacci sequence. Stay with me...

What I just mentioned is very important, because just as we have a solar system with planetary energy spheres that transfer energy to one another through the solar system, we also have a chakra system with bodily energy spheres that transfer energy through our bodies. Ironically, each of our chakras coincide with a planetary influence....as above, so below, as within, so without. (Hermes Trismegistus)

Again, stay with me....I'm setting it up....

I've found many conflicting reports over the years of exactly which planets are associated with which chakras, and so on. Most chakra models only attribute 7 chakra centers, which NEVER made sense to me. We have 9 planets (or we did, at least, until Pluto was excommunicated - which is highly symbolic all on it's own, but that's not the purpose of this post).

As I woke from my dream, I had a very clear realization that we do not seven chakras, but TWELVE! We must!! There is no other way! There are 12 zodiac signs (well, 13 if you really want to be picky), there are 12 tribes (again, 13 if you want to count Dinah), 12 months of the year, 12 notes to the chromatic scale, 12 strands of DNA, etc. We very much have a symbiotic relationship with our planetary bodies!! Upon a search, I indeed found evidence that I am not the only one who has come to this realization. Each chakra has it's own color, it's own symbol, it's own zodiac sign, and.....wait for it.....it's own planet! But wait.....I believe we most certainly do!

Here is a depiction of the standard seven:

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Here is a depiction of the twelve (including the allusive 13th):

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Moving on....now, let's address the issue of the 12 (or 13) planets....

While I won't sit here and speculate on which planets belong to which chakras, or even to try and change up the order of the different systems already available (there are several that contradict each other), I will address ONE that was the subject of my dream.

Chakras, as most of us know, have symbols that are associated with them, that depict different styles of flowers/petals. What most people DON'T know is where this came from. Again, I will not speculate as to how ancient knowledge came to discover this information, but modern science has discovered that each note (attributed to a chakra), when placed on a visual screen for us to view, will make the corresponding design that the ancient symbols have associated with each chakra/note. The one I find most intriguing is the 6th, the Third Eye Chakra - also called the Pineal Gland, (or the TENTH chakra when considering the new expanded chakra system), which is ALWAYS depicted with two petals or wings on the side...

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Here is another photo depicting the difference between the old chakra system and the new one - one places it in the 6th position, while the other places it in the 10th....

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Still with me? GOOD!! Now here's where it gets interesting.....

All the talk about the 10th planet (or Planet X, Nibiru, etc.), has always been intriguing for me, but I chalked it up to nothing more than just another neat odd thing that may or may not affect me one day. My dream squarely cleared that up for me, and I bolted up with a startling revelation. The "return of Christ" is a state of being which is directly associated with the lining up and energizing of our chakra centers. In order for that to happen within our bodies, the solar system must also echo that....as above so below, remember? It can't happen on one plane without it happening on another. Ironically, there is much talk these days about "activating" the pineal gland (or the "God gland", as scientists have dubbed it), since we have all but lost our abilities to use it.

The 10th chakra = the 10th planet. The 10th chakra = the God gland/pineal gland. The 10th planet = the winged planet, the winged messenger, or the messianic planet. The 10th chakra is depicted as a winged disk = the 10th planet is depicted as a winged disc. Are you seeing the connection yet?

Here is a depiction of what I believe will be the return of Christ:

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Ancient Sumerians also told us of 12 planets....

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And the Egyptians made no secret of their winged discs, which I feel is an intentional duality reference that includes the solar system and the accompanying change in the human body...

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Now, given all of this, I don't fear what's to come. I look forward to it, as all good people should. Enough conspiracies about doomsday already. I think for evil, it certainly WILL be doomsday, but for good souls, it will be a time of rejoicing and full wisdom!

To further this notion from the ancients, here is some amazing information....

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The Winged Disk

Hardly any emblem from ancient Near-Eastern art and architecture is more widely known than the winged disc. The winged disc is essentially a circle to which two outstretched wings are attached. It is a religious symbol representing a deity the ancients regarded as the supreme god of the sky. The symbol is found in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and northern Syria and comes in a number of local variations; the Egyptians often attached two coiling uraeus­-serpents to its sides or placed two little horns on top of the disc, whereas the Assyrians typically portrayed the disc as a ring containing the upper part of the god in human form. The example shown above on the left corner is a close-up of a panel from the ruins of the 'North West Palace' in Nimrud, northern Iraq, dated to 865-860 BCE. Why exactly was this deity represented as a winged disc? The short answer is that this particular god was envisioned as a giant bird. Egyptologists have long acknowledged that the Egyptian form of the image could represent Horus the falcon or hawk god. Most specialists would also concur that the winged disc signified some astral god, whose presence in the heavens was symbolized by the flight of a bird. In Egypt, the winged disc was certainly regarded as a symbol of the sun in the first millennium BCE, but there are indications that the myth of this 'sun god' had not originally been based on the behavior of the sun. The archaic sun god of the earlier strata of myth appears to have been some other sun-like object observed in the sky that had afterwards vanished....

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In that second picture, it sure does look a LOT like an ancient depiction of the chakra system, with the winged disk perched on the top.

It's not a bad theory. I quite like it.

I, like many others, have believed that it's not coincidence that planets orbit around the sun in the same way electrons orbit atoms. I know thats not new.

I've pondered the idea that if life starts with a sperm "landing in" or "penetrating" an egg, why wouldn't the parallel be true when it comes to the origin of life on this planet (comet w/DNA = sperm, Earth = egg)?

I've believed for a long time that different religions (most?) speak to different aspects or levels of existence, with Hinduism being very close to quantum mechanics in its description of the universe and the long cycles.

There was a lot more I wanted to put in this thread, but didn't have the time. However, here is yet one more link between ancient symbolism and modern science.....

Look at the basic design feature of the tetrahedron....

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Now look at the nuclear/atomic symbolism for modern science....

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I don't think it's any accident that the two are virtually identical. What I find even more intriguing is that the tetrahedron, or Merkaba, also called the Star of David by the Jews, has always used the tetrahedron as their national symbol. Is there something deeper here that we're missing? Forget wars, religion and politics.....read everything that has been posted so far and consider the deeper meanings. WHY were the Jews the God's chosen people? Do the people themselves represent something else on a deeper level within us that we're not seeing? Missing the forest for the trees, so to speak? Then take into consideration that ancient philosophers embedded the image of the human inside of a tetrahedron....the symbolic meaning of this is astounding to me.

Lots to ponder here.

Makes a lot of sense.

I too had a dream the other night, but couldn't remember the details in the morning. When I woke up I just had the "feeling" that I had like "unlocked" some sort of knowledge or something. All I remember was it was comparing life to a bowl of soup, of all things. Haha. And then it went on describing just why it was like that, but I can't remember any details.

Nice thread.