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Secession, our last viable solution to the Fascist/Socialist State?

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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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The problem is that society is a monstrously complex Venn diagram. You gather together all the people who hate the federal Government. Unfortunately some of these people want to stick Jews in gas chambers again, others want 24/7 surveillance on everyone except themselves because they think everyone is a pedophile, others want to take all your personal property because its 'not fair', others don't want disabled people or blacks 'cluttering up' the place and so on.

The bad behavior of the Federal Government is just a tiny fraction of mans' inhumanity to man and is subsumed by a much larger issue - many people who talk about freedom are hypocrites in their own right and most people on this forum wouldn't be seen dead with them, leave alone live in the same state.

Like the guy said, we need to fix what we've got.




posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by darpaint5
The problem is that society is a monstrously complex Venn diagram. You gather together all the people who hate the federal Government. Unfortunately some of these people want to stick Jews in gas chambers again, others want 24/7 surveillance on everyone except themselves because they think everyone is a pedophile, others want to take all your personal property because its 'not fair', others don't want disabled people or blacks 'cluttering up' the place and so on.

The bad behavior of the Federal Government is just a tiny fraction of mans' inhumanity to man and is subsumed by a much larger issue - many people who talk about freedom are hypocrites in their own right and most people on this forum wouldn't be seen dead with them, leave alone live in the same state.

Like the guy said, we need to fix what we've got.


Jews in gas chambers? We have a right to life don't we?

24/7 surveillance? I would not wish that on anyone, we do have a right to privacy.

Take personal Property? All rights derive from property, if people actually understood the philosophy behind American Law, and the Declaration of Independence, I would say half of these attitudes that people have would be gone.

Disabled people and blacks also have a right to life.

People can want all of those above things all day long, but their wanting is irrelevant. To group everyone person that wants some form of revolution with bigots and racists is a logical fallacy. I would not only want a revolution for myself, but for every man, woman, and child within these United States.

The injustices of the Federal Government are "the larger issue."



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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I applaud you sir, and am happy that some sees things the way I do. I read all of the propaganda that says the States will be starved out, and surrounded by military, much like a concentration camp. Don't you believe a word of this. Like someone else said, if just a small portion of the States did secede, the Federal Government would do everything it could, to no avail, then all of the others would follow. Each State has it's own resources, and some States harvest enough to feed several States. Barter could easily be set up, and trading posts would spring up. Probably where Walmart used to be. And "surround with military."
Really? I would bet that the Pentagon could not field a division of Marines today, and the National guard are not here. Guess where they are? States would immediately recall all Home Guards to defend State borders, and work on projects. The world would embrace a new Confederation of States.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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long live Michigan cant stand obama and the feds.if i see a fed agent on my property ill shoot them.no feds welcome in michigan!



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