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Secession, our last viable solution to the Fascist/Socialist State?

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posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
Are you kidding me? Blackwater is owned and ran by two CEOs.



If government ceased to exist tomorrow, what would happen to Blackwater?


Corporations would take control and the US would exist under a fascist corporate controlled country. Blackwater would still have the ability to exist.

Endisnighe, Socialism does not country people. You lack knowledge on the subject obviously.


LOL







posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:05 PM
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Our government is a hybrid Fascist-Socialist/Democratic-Republic with an economy based upon Capitalism, but not true Capitalism. Yay, now you are all winners!

Our country is now a mutant nation that is disintegrating as we speak! Nay, now we are all losers!



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
Are you kidding me? Blackwater is owned and ran by two CEOs.



If government ceased to exist tomorrow, what would happen to Blackwater?


Corporations would take control and the US would exist under a fascist corporate controlled country. Blackwater would still have the ability to exist.

Endisnighe, Socialism does not country people. You lack knowledge on the subject obviously.


LOL





Intelligence at it's finest, coming from the man that thinks the United States military is a Socialist institution.




posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Let me tell you what would happen to Blackwater if government ceased to exist tomorrow.

There would be a lot of hungry mercenaries on the streets looking for real jobs doing something productive.

Sure, Blackwater could "exist". I'm not sure who would be paying them though.

Do you think Google is going to hire them to raid servers in China or something?



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Since Blackwater is a privatized military company, I guess you could say so



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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No that would be the last option and the most undesirable.

You guys need to stop watching fancy movies and start getting in reality.

States have the power to make it difficult locally for the federal government and its employees and contractors and partner to operate.

I see much being discussed by citizens about individual seeking retribution and non compliance.
That is all fine and dandy if you want to get steam rolled.

There is a law that states cant directly tax the government.

Our local governments have the power to tax federal employees income. In whatever inenous way that is allowed by your state Constitution.These taxes can be unusually high if intended and extremely targeted.

If you want state governments can decide what weapons federal law enforcement are regulated to carry. Here in Texas our bill of rights allow for the state to regulate the wearing of arms for public safety.
Our legislature can deems the irs or atf unsafe and prohibit the wearing of firearms in public , or we can prohibit certain firearms by these agencies.
I say anything above .22 caliber is to dangerous for public safety for federal agenda to use wile on duty for the federal leo responsibilities.

What if all contractors that had any contracts with the federal government were taxed 10% ontop of normal sales tax?

What if we passed open carry of long and short rifles for citizens.
Wile requiring federal agencies limited to .22 caliber semi automatic weapons?

How bout we bar federal regulations for state made firearms. Which means fully automatic weapons.

The struggle has yet to be even Fought and you guys are busy trying to pick up weapons! Use your mind. You use every ability within your local governments legally before you ever use any violence.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
The United States CAN embrace Socialism (it hasn't yet, so don't go making sarcastic remarks), or it will enter a complete economic downfall and the United States will fall.

sounds like a true democrat in dc
what district do u represent??? lol

dude, we need to fall
tearing it down is the only way to
rebuild it back up right
if we just patch the wall
it might keep the rain out
but it won't stand against the flood.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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I already had a thread about this
4 days ago

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 06:06 PM
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I believe that the purpose behind Obama's election to the Presidency is to force the break up of the U.S. into five or six regional "pieces" (sets of states) or the complete break up of the U.S. into 50 separate states.

It looks more and more like the US and the EU cannot BOTH continue intact into the future and the papacy is rooting for the continued existence of the EU rather than the U.S.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by biochemky
I believe that the purpose behind Obama's election to the Presidency is to force the break up of the U.S. into five or six regional "pieces" (sets of states) or the complete break up of the U.S. into 50 separate states.

It looks more and more like the US and the EU cannot BOTH continue intact into the future and the papacy is rooting for the continued existence of the EU rather than the U.S.


Do you think the vatican controls the EU? The EU is not in great shape now...neither is the reputation of the papacy. Unless you believe they control world events I don't think most people give a s*** what the papacy thinks anymore.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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Secession is not violent. It is already being done by states. It is telling the government we will no longer comply with Federal Mandate. Your state has done it and so have many more. Why do you think the State National Guards have been conscripted in the Federal Military?

They know this cannot continue. The states have become puppets. Bowing to the master. I like your idea about taxing the federal employees. I think a 100% tax just ought to be enough. That would be a good start. Hell, it is a revenues stream. Maybe that before the secession.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:05 PM
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Hey, I just looked at the thread. You misspelled secede or I am sure I would have found it on search.

Lawful secession is the last step, but it looks like it has to be done.

The federal gov thinks they can mandate anything now. 100 Trillion+ infunded liabilities.

I bet about a quarter of that is federal benefits and pensions.

Well, I am thinking that the Russian that said this was on the way is a pretty smart cookie.

Or, the solution can be the gov can tax us at a 90% effective taxation rate.

That ought to work. /s



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
There isn't going to be any secession, there aren't any people "waking up" on a grand scale and threatening revolt. Fact is, the United States can go three way. It has the possibility of turning Fascist, especially due to people of the US being undeniably scared of even the term "Socialism". The United States CAN embrace Socialism (it hasn't yet, so don't go making sarcastic remarks), or it will enter a complete economic downfall and the United States will fall.


It is interesting and perhaps telling that of the three directions you predict The United States of America can go, one is failure and the other two options are either fascism or socialism, (both of which you felt compelled to capitalize), and allowed for no other direction in which success and prosperity might be an option.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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I mean maybe the split is needed, because this mud match really does suck.

However we would be foolish not to realize that it is our differences that keep us free.

Friction is freedom



[edit on 26-3-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:34 PM
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I do not understand why people that want socialist policies do not move to Massachusetts or California. I am sure those states would invite them. It seems both are going broke so they need some more revenue.

I have to keep saying it, if the fed would just back the frell off from mandates, but NO they know what is good for people.

I can tell, the country is in such good shape. Empire is rolling along.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by endisnighe
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Thanks, I always thought that when these people start saying it is a right thing, it was a way to keep people from realizing the left has ALL the tyrants.

Thanks for clarifying.


Its pretty simple.

All the mass killing ever conducted on the face of this earth has been at the hands of government.

Its pre-ordained that the left has all the tyrants.

Communists killed 100 million through starvation alone last century. The wars between communist and fascist states during the past century were all started by leftists.

In fact, the only major war in modern history that was started by a so-called conservative is the Gulf War.

Of course, under Bush's tutelage, government expanded to three times its size, so I would hardly call him a conservative.



Why do people argue right and left when there both hands of the same body!!

Fascizm and socialism/communism are used along....with very slight ityy Bitty capitalism. ..for control by the elites. So argueing the defenition of the state were in is pointless. We are not fascist until there killing people for speaking ill of government in the streets.

Right now we are in a corporate socialist republic. The government is so integrated into business its become a socialist state for big business as they manipulate con and outright waste our money and countless trillions more. The business model is fascist come to think of it.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:48 PM
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What he is saying is the left/totalitarian right/anarchy scale. Not the new left/right paradigm that has been created.

Any and all controls or regulations creates the totalitarian state, whereas less regulations or controls brings you towards the anarchy state.

Now, a lot of people misconstrue the terminology. Not saying you are, but as you can see on this thread, many do.

You do not need to create regulation to control things like pollution or bad products. You use the basic tenet of a Libertarian society, that if someone harms another rights or infringes on those rights a punishment is given.

So say a company pollutes, that right there infringes on the rights of others.

All of the new forms of regulations do not actually protect us though. They stomp on competition so that free markets cannot work.

I in particular, get frustrated that people cannot see this, I am sure others do too.

Thanks for the comment.

[edit on 3/26/2010 by endisnighe]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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Obama is Controlled by Knights of Malta who all Take a Papal Blood Oath
that Requires Them ALL (Obama too) to Work Toward the Demise of the American Republic

Obama’s White Papal Masters

The most comprehensive list of the Chain of Command leading and controlling Obama and his administration. See who really runs the show from the top to the bottom (Obama). Read their credentials and connections.

Obama’s White Papal Masters:

Chain of Command


Adolfo Nicolas
30th Superior General, Society of Jesus
“The Black Pope”

Pope Benedict XVI
Vicar of Christ/Vicar of Horus
“The White Pope”

“The White Pope”
The Evil Emperor

“The Black Pope”
Darth Vader

Masters of “The Matrix”

James E. Grummer, S.J.
American Assistant to General Nicolas
Borgo di Santo Spirito #5, Rome
Master of US Jesuit Conference
Master of American Jesuit University Presidents
Master of 10 American Provincials
Master of New York Provincial

Thomas H. Smolich. S.J.
President, US Jesuit Conference
Former California Provincial
Former Master of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
Conspirator: Present Chinese-Mexican Invasion
Conspirator: Future Sino-Soviet-Muslim Invasion

David S. Ciancimino, S.J.
New York Provincial
Overseer of Archbishop of New York City
Occult Overseer of New York City
Wall Street, Federal Reserve, NYSE

Joseph M. McShane, S.J.
President, Jesuit Fordham University
Bronx, New York
“Penholder for Cardinal Egan”
Notice: Equilateral Triangle Pendant
Masonic symbol for the Risen Horus
THE COMING RISEN POPE/”The Beast”

Pope Benedict the XVI
Roman Papal Caesar
Egyptian Osiris
Vicar of Christ/Vicar of Horus

Edward Cardinal Egan
“Prince of the Pope’s Church”
Roman Papal Senator

Edward Cardinal Egan
Archbishop of New York City
“Archbishop of the Capital of the World”
“The American Pope”
Head: American Branch of the Knights of Malta
Head: Knights of Columbus

Occult Master of:
Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree
American Scottish-Rite Freemasonry
Council On Foreign Relations
B’nai B’rith/Anti-Defamation League
Central Intelligence Agency
National Security Agency
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Office of Naval Intelligence
The Pentagon

Joseph A. O’Hare, S.J.
President Emeritus, Jesuit Fordham University
Bronx, New York
Member: Knights of Malta
Presider: Council on Foreign Relations
Advisor to Knight of Malta David Rockefeller, CFR
Advisor to Knight of Malta Henry Kissinger, CFR
Advisor to Michael Bloomberg
Mayor, New York City
Papal Knight of the Vatican’s Revived
“Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel

John J. DeGioia
President Jesuit Georgetown University
Member: Knights of Malta
Member: Council On Foreign Relations
Adminstrator: “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel


Richard N. Haass
Chairman: Council on Foreign Relations
New York City
Servant of Edward Cardinal Egan
Overseer of AIPAC:
American Israel Public Affairs Committee
Freemasonic Jewish Labor Zionist
Court Jew for the Pope
Adminstrator: “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel


Zbigniew Brzezinski
Member: Knights of Malta
Member: Bilderberg Group
Member: Council On Foreign Relations
Member: Trilaterial Commission
Advisor: Jesuit Georgetown University
Polish Roman Catholic Socialist-Communist
Professor: Columbia University, New York
Recruiter of Barry Soetoro, 1981
Creator of “Barack Hussein Obama”


George Soros
Member: Council on Foreign Relations
Member: Carlyle Group
Multi-billionaire
Major Stockholder: Halliburton
Hungarian Jew: Socialist-Communist
Financial Backer of Barack Hussein Obama
Friend of Rupert Murdoch
Freemasonic Jewish Labor Zionist
“Court Jew for the Pope”

Rupert Murdoch
Member: Council on Foreign Relations
Member: Knights of St. Gregory
International Media Mogul
Owner: Fox News Network
Friend of George Soros
Occult Protector of Barack Hussein Obama
Bill O’Reilly – The O’Reilly Factor

Sean Hannity – Hannity & Combes

Joseph R. Biden
Papal Knight; Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor
Vice President: Rome’s “Holy Roman”
14th Amendment American Empire
Alter Ego: Jesuit Advisor to
President Barry Davis Obama
Promoter: Council on Foreign Relations
Honorary Degrees:
Jesuit University of Scranton, Scranton, PA
Jesuit St. Joseph’s University, Philadelphia, PA

Barry Davis
“Barack Hussein Obama”
32nd Degree Prince Hall Freemason
President of Rome’s “Holy Roman,”
14th Amendment American Empire
Sunni Moslem, Pretended Protestant Christian
Mulatto: Mulatto Father, White Mother
Father: Frank Marshall Davis, Jr.
Wife: Michelle, Member: Chicago CFR
Obama: CFR-Controlled and CFR Spokesperson
Obama: Promoted by the late William F. Buckley, Jr.
Buckley: Knight of Malta, Bonesman, Bilderberger, CFR Member
Buckley: Promoter of Reverse Discrimination against Whites
Buckley: Promoter of a Coming Black President
Obama: Trained in Romanism, Islam and Apostate Protestantism
Obama: “Nimrod”; Pretended Unifier of Whites and Blacks
Obama: Promoter of the Papal Crusade against Shia Islam
Obama: Promoter of Bush’s Papal Inquisition
Against Protestant American Liberties
Obama: Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor
Promotor of the Black Pope’s Counter-Reformation
Barry Davis: “Boy” of Pope Benedict XVI


[link to www.vaticanassassins.org]

Biden and his Proxy Obama Serving the “White and Black Popes”

Again, Marco Ponce has created another masterpiece! It would be laughable if it was not the cold, deadly truth!

The fact is Zibignew Brzezinski is a Roman Catholic Knight of Malta connected to the Jesuits of Georgetown University and was the mentor of Barry Soetoro, alias “Barack Hussein Obama” while attending Columbia University, now Columbia College, in New York.

The fact is “Obama” was mentored by “ex-Jesuit” Greg Galluzzo of the Gamaliel Foundation when Obama was working the streets of Chicago.

The fact is that Roman Catholic papal knight Joe Biden is the White master of Mulatto Obama. Biden was the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee which he chaired, and holds honorary degrees from the Order’s Saint Joseph’s University in Philadelphia and the University of Scranton in Pennsylvania.

The fact is Biden is a darling of the Jesuits of Georgetown University and abject slave to the Temporal Power of Pope Benedict XVI.

The fact is Benedict XVI—”the White Pope”—is the utter creature of “the Black Pope,” Adolfo Nicolas, remembering the Jesuits are the “penholders” of the pope! The foreign policy of the Biden/Obama administration is the foreign policy of the Vatican. From FDR to Obama, all foreign policy has been dictated by Rome overseen by the Jesuit Superior General.
[link to www.vaticanassassins.org]


www.vaticanassassins.org...

Jesuit Obama’s State of the Jesuit Empire: Doublespeak and Deception

Jan 29, 2010 by Eric John Phelps

Indeed, Mulatto Prince Hall Rite Freemason Barry Davis (alias “Barack Hussein Obama”) posing as the “President of the United States,” has delivered another riveting, motivational speech successfully deceiving the hearts of a bleeding and bankrupt American citizenry. Before your editor commences, it is striking to behold the uncanny likeness of White Roman Catholic Vice President Joe Biden, White Roman Catholic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Mulatto “President” Barry Davis Obama with Osiris, Isis and Horus—the ancient Trinity of Egyptian Mystery Religion. White Joe is Osiris; White Nancy is Isis and Mulatto Barry—the White/Black duel breed God-man—is Egyptian Messiah Horus, the risen son of the gods. Could this be the reason that Black Freemason Louis Farrakhan, that bombastically hateful, anti-White racist and tribal chief of the Black cult known as “the Nation of Islam,” endorsed Obama for the presidency calling him “the Messiah?”

At this cleverly orchestrated reality we are not surprised. For the Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Nicolas is Satan’s occult overlord of high-level, OTO/Illuminized Freemasonry ruling his international “Invisible Empire” from the Vatican while preserving the essential rites and power of the Devil’s Mystery Babylonian/Egyptian Religion—one day to be relocated from Rome to the rebuilt City of Babylon! Being the puppet masters of this charade, the Jesuits of Scranton University and St. Joseph’s University in Philadelphia control Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor Joe Biden; the Jesuits of the University of San Francisco control Jesuitess Nancy Pelosi; and the Jesuits of Loyola University in Chicago control Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor Barry Davis Obama.

Yes, Jesuit/CFR-controlled Islamic Freemason Barry Davis Obama is the 21st Century’s reborn Jesuit/CFR-controlled Episcopalian Freemason Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Edward Kennedy and Zibignew Brzezinski “made” Obama just as socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Al Smith and John J. Raskob “made” Roosevelt. The Order’s endgame for both presidential “made men” was and is Right Wing Jesuit Fascism: blue-blooded FDR failed due to the providential interposition of ex-Marine Corps General Smedley Butler, but blue-blooded BDO (related to six American presidents) apparently will succeed in precipitating a military coup d’etat led by an Army General loyal to the Pope of Rome.

The parallels between Obama and Roosevelt are both striking and fascinating remembering powerful American Jesuits brought both marionettes to power—”by hook and by crook.” Both men were puppets of the Archbishop of New York City via their clandestine association with the Cardinal’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR); both were socialist-radical Democrats; both were gripping orators; both were winsome with their smiles and eye-contact, each personality possessing an approachable bearing and demeanor; both called for “Change,” which “Change” centralized more power in Washington while further destroying the White Protestant and Baptist Middle Class; both sought to openly lead the Pope’s “Holy Roman” 14th Amendment American Empire out of a Jesuit Georgetown University-plotted, CFR-executed economic depression in which both coadjutors played their assigned, devilish parts; both inherited said depressions from previous, CFR-controlled, Republican administrations, Jesuit Coadjutors Hoover and Bush obediently wrecking their economies; both were pro-communist socialists (FDR hosting Soviet Bolsheviks at the White House—according to FDR’s son-in-law Curtis Dall, as well as BDO hosting Red Chinese Communists at the White House on national television!); both attended apostate Protestant, pro-socialist-communist Harvard University; and both headed Harvard university news reviews.

Further, both were connected to the Jesuits during their political ascendancy (FDR via the New York political machine directed by Archbishop of New York City Patrick Cardinal Hayes, and BDO by means of the Chicago political machine overseen by Archbishop of Chicago Francis Cardinal George; both would promote Jesuit-authored and perfected Fabian-Socialist-Communist-left wing—”secular progressive” (Oh! what a deceptive neo-fascist term constantly employed by Fox News Roman Catholic pundits Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly!)” solutions to deliberately impose economic depressions; both would promote a “Recovery Act;” both would plunge the nation into massive debt (FDR’s $500 Billion “New Deal” and BDO’s $24 Trillion “Bailout”); both would promote national, communal work forces; both would be advised by Jesuits during their tenures as “Commander-in-Chief;” both OPENLY pretended to be the enemies of the big, cartel-capitalist bankers on Wall Street while SECRETLY serving the interests of these very CFR-directed “robber barons” that put them in office; and both would impose a pro-Black and pro-Roman Catholic domestic and foreign policy specifically targeting the nation’s historic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and Baptist Middle Class for its final, economic destruction. Indeed, Jesuit-imposed, Counter-Reformation socialism is the “Final Solution to the Middle Class Question,” that White Middle Class born out of the risen Son of God’s Bible-based Protestant Reformation.

One more preface of fact: there is no such thing as a “State of the Union” address. The Federal Union of Sovereign American States called “These United States of America” created in 1789 died on July 28, 1868. On that day the 14th Amendment was proclaimed to be “ratified,” the amendment reversing the origin and character of American citizenship, the new national citizenship being “paramount and dominant” and state citizenship being “subordinate and derivative.” On that day of infamy, the Pope’s “Holy Roman” 14th Amendment American Empire was born. Therefore, the presidential address should be renamed “State of the Empire Address,” more accurately termed “The State of the Jesuit Empire Address.” This is what we heard from BDO’s lips last week—and he knows it!

Regarding the address, your editor maintains there were two policies promoted of utmost importance if the military Company of Jesus is to succeed in destroying the White Middle Class and impose martial law. They were the promotion of nationalized “Health Care,” i.e., socialized medicine continuing the unfettered Roman Catholic Latino Alien Invasion of America. The other is openly permitting the sodomite homosexual (erroneously called “gays”) invasion of the military to the outrage and disgust of the highest military commanders including the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Did you notice the cold and calculating response of the Joint Chiefs after Obama made that dastardly statement?
Yes, both policies will continue to destroy the White Protestant Middle Class—its highly advanced culture built with first prayers and then blood, sweat and tears to the exclusion of monetary handouts from government.

And yes, both policies will continue to destroy White American peoples with our historic White Protestant history including factual knowledge of America’s Geneva/AV1611 Reformation Bible-based culture while rendering our national borders indefensible due to a sodomite-ridden, demoralized and undisciplined armed forces. Both Roosevelt and Obama are exceeding sinners before the risen Lord Jesus Christ, which inculcated, individual iniquity includes an incessant hatred for true, Reformation Bible-believing Protestant and Baptist Christians as well as racial Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites—the spiritual as well as the physical “seed of Abraham” through Issac and Jacob. In this light we shall examine what your editor considers to be the two keystone issues of the Biden/Davis-Obama “State of the Jesuit Empire” address.

First, the Order’s three-decade quest of establishing socialized medicine, culminating in the Obama mantra “Health Care for All Americans,” has been an original canard of the socialist-communist Democratic Party. It was a goal of Roman Catholic socialist-communist, gun-grabbing Senator Edward Kennedy, the murderer of Mary Jo Kopechne—according to an acquaintance who was a personal friend of the now deceased coroner having performed Mary Jo’s autopsy. Socialized medicine with no private sector competition will not only deprive the aging White WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War baby-boomer generations of present coverage, but will tremendously reduce the ability of allopathic physicians to immediately redress emergency surgical situations. The medical crisis now in Canada, England and Germany—three historically White Protestant nations—will come to America. Your editor knows of at least three doctors that will cease to practice medicine if the Obamacare/Clintoncare/Kennedycare plan becomes law.

But the 2074-page Health Care Act—backed by the American Jesuit Conference—must fall on its face in light of one key provision: free health care to every Roman Catholic Latino alien invader now within the borders of the Empire. Any and every true American patriot holding office in both the federal House and Senate would—without flinching a muscle—vote “No” without having to read one more word of the damnable bill. No Republican or Democratic congressman who loves the idea of national sovereignty and a strong middle class would ever vote for such an abomination which is nothing more than what the Holy Bible calls “a mischief framed by a law.” Further, to back the bill is to promote the Washington promoted, Roman Catholic Alien Invasion uniformly backed by the entire American Roman Hierarchy. The bill has a marvelous two-pronged effect: destroy the White Anglo Saxon Protestant Middle Class while “making America dominantly Roman Catholic”—the hue and cry of the Jesuit Order’s Knights of Columbus for over one hundred years! Anyone who votes for the act is, in fact, guilty of high treason—guilty of aiding and abetting “foreign intrigue” of which we were warned by George Washington, the Father of our deceased Confederate Republic of these United States of America. For that “foreign intrigue” is centered in the Jesuit-ruled Vatican.

Secondly, by mandating legalized sodomy in the military, angry and disenfranchised, normal heterosexual Whites will clamor for a military dictator to reverse the impending destruction of the armed forces. No army can fight “the enemy” and ever hope to win with advancing sodomites within the ranks or as officers: for to carry out orders requires respect for commanding officers. George Washington, our great White Baptist-Calvinist Father of the limited Calvinist Republic of the late United States of America (1789-1868) personally expelled sodomites from his army. Once acceptance of sodomy is protected by law in the military, the day of American patriotism inspiring men to defend the nation is over—to the delight of the Society of Jesus!

In conclusion, Davis-Obama’s “State of the Jesuit Empire Address” will continue to foster more New Right Republican Jesuit Fascism. It’s culmination will be martial law under a Jesuit-directed Fascist military dictator. At that moment the Order will be able to extirpate all “heretics and liberals” now termed “enemies of the state.” And the final curtain will close on over six million North American Jews. Davis-Obama’s radical socialist-communism—backed by certain notorious Pope-serving Freemasonic Jews—is facilitating the implementation of CFR/CIA/DHS-backed Jesuit Fascism. This is the reason why the Company’s CFR-controlled, Freemasonic, Fascist White Power Structure ruling America backed the “election” of Barry Davis Obama; this is why it is backing his socialist-communist policies destroying the “heretic and liberal” White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and Baptist Middle Class; this is why it is backing all gun confiscation in the private sector orchestrated to outrage all White men in general regardless of their religious creed.

Mulatto Barry Davis Obama’s Jesuit-backed socialist-communism is facilitating the coming endgame for America: Jesuit-backed socialist-fascism. And Davis-Obama, the Pope’s Islamic “altar boy” of the teleprompter, is playing his part to perfection. His “State of the Jesuit Empire Address” proves it! Any president who resists the plot will be terminated as was President Kennedy!



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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Just a brief review of a few highlights of how and why the US Federal Government
continues to exercise it’s just and authorized sovereign control over the 50 states.

During the last unsuccessful effort by states to secede, over 600,00 lives were lost
and the failed attempt actually had the opposite effect by creating a more powerful and
expanded Federal Government.

Those whistling Dixie would be well advised to consider that in order to successfully overthrow our enormous government by any means you would need to organize, collect dues, have meetings, pass laws, hold elections to appoint leaders and pretty soon you end up becoming the the EXACT SAME institution you had revolted against in the first place. History books are filled with similar examples across the world and throughout millennia.


Since the U.S. Civil War, the powers of the federal government have tended to expand......


en.wikipedia.org...


The balance of federal powers and those powers held by the states as defined in the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution was first addressed in the case of McCulloch v. Maryland. Chief Justice John Marshall asserted that the laws adopted by the federal government, when exercising its constitutional powers, are generally paramount over any conflicting laws adopted by state governments.


en.wikipedia.org...

So bang your drum, wave your flag, puff your flute and sip your Sam Adams. You may have the catchphrases, ammo and faux bravado but I doubt you could muster the patience, compassion and tempered resolve to orchestrate and execute an effective master plan.

Have fun and wake me when it's over.


“When liberty comes with hands dabbled in blood it is hard to shake hands with her.”
- Oscar Wilde

[edit on 26-3-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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Why do people argue right and left when there both hands of the same body!!

Fascizm and socialism/communism are used along....with very slight ityy Bitty capitalism. ..for control by the elites. So argueing the defenition of the state were in is pointless. We are not fascist until there killing people for speaking ill of government in the streets.

Right now we are in a corporate socialist republic. The government is so integrated into business its become a socialist state for big business as they manipulate con and outright waste our money and countless trillions more. The business model is fascist come to think of it.

here's the TRUTH about our corporate socialist republic: its a jesuit fascist state in the unveiling. PLEASE READ ALL of what follows:

www.vaticanassassins.org...
Jesuit Obama’s State of the Jesuit Empire: Doublespeak and Deception
Jan 29, 2010 by Eric John Phelps
Indeed, Mulatto Prince Hall Rite Freemason Barry Davis (alias “Barack Hussein Obama”) posing as the “President of the United States,” has delivered another riveting, motivational speech successfully deceiving the hearts of a bleeding and bankrupt American citizenry. Before your editor commences, it is striking to behold the uncanny likeness of White Roman Catholic Vice President Joe Biden, White Roman Catholic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Mulatto “President” Barry Davis Obama with Osiris, Isis and Horus—the ancient Trinity of Egyptian Mystery Religion. White Joe is Osiris; White Nancy is Isis and Mulatto Barry—the White/Black duel breed God-man—is Egyptian Messiah Horus, the risen son of the gods. Could this be the reason that Black Freemason Louis Farrakhan, that bombastically hateful, anti-White racist and tribal chief of the Black cult known as “the Nation of Islam,” endorsed Obama for the presidency calling him “the Messiah?”
At this cleverly orchestrated reality we are not surprised. For the Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Nicolas is Satan’s occult overlord of high-level, OTO/Illuminized Freemasonry ruling his international “Invisible Empire” from the Vatican while preserving the essential rites and power of the Devil’s Mystery Babylonian/Egyptian Religion—one day to be relocated from Rome to the rebuilt City of Babylon! Being the puppet masters of this charade, the Jesuits of Scranton University and St. Joseph’s University in Philadelphia control Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor Joe Biden; the Jesuits of the University of San Francisco control Jesuitess Nancy Pelosi; and the Jesuits of Loyola University in Chicago control Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor Barry Davis Obama.
Yes, Jesuit/CFR-controlled Islamic Freemason Barry Davis Obama is the 21st Century’s reborn Jesuit/CFR-controlled Episcopalian Freemason Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Edward Kennedy and Zibignew Brzezinski “made” Obama just as socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Al Smith and John J. Raskob “made” Roosevelt. The Order’s endgame for both presidential “made men” was and is Right Wing Jesuit Fascism: blue-blooded FDR failed due to the providential interposition of ex-Marine Corps General Smedley Butler, but blue-blooded BDO (related to six American presidents) apparently will succeed in precipitating a military coup d’etat led by an Army General loyal to the Pope of Rome.
The parallels between Obama and Roosevelt are both striking and fascinating remembering powerful American Jesuits brought both marionettes to power—”by hook and by crook.” Both men were puppets of the Archbishop of New York City via their clandestine association with the Cardinal’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR); both were socialist-radical Democrats; both were gripping orators; both were winsome with their smiles and eye-contact, each personality possessing an approachable bearing and demeanor; both called for “Change,” which “Change” centralized more power in Washington while further destroying the White Protestant and Baptist Middle Class; both sought to openly lead the Pope’s “Holy Roman” 14th Amendment American Empire out of a Jesuit Georgetown University-plotted, CFR-executed economic depression in which both coadjutors played their assigned, devilish parts; both inherited said depressions from previous, CFR-controlled, Republican administrations, Jesuit Coadjutors Hoover and Bush obediently wrecking their economies; both were pro-communist socialists (FDR hosting Soviet Bolsheviks at the White House—according to FDR’s son-in-law Curtis Dall, as well as BDO hosting Red Chinese Communists at the White House on national television!); both attended apostate Protestant, pro-socialist-communist Harvard University; and both headed Harvard university news reviews.
Further, both were connected to the Jesuits during their political ascendancy (FDR via the New York political machine directed by Archbishop of New York City Patrick Cardinal Hayes, and BDO by means of the Chicago political machine overseen by Archbishop of Chicago Francis Cardinal George; both would promote Jesuit-authored and perfected Fabian-Socialist-Communist-left wing—”secular progressive” (Oh! what a deceptive neo-fascist term constantly employed by Fox News Roman Catholic pundits Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly!)” solutions to deliberately impose economic depressions; both would promote a “Recovery Act;” both would plunge the nation into massive debt (FDR’s $500 Billion “New Deal” and BDO’s $24 Trillion “Bailout”); both would promote national, communal work forces; both would be advised by Jesuits during their tenures as “Commander-in-Chief;” both OPENLY pretended to be the enemies of the big, cartel-capitalist bankers on Wall Street while SECRETLY serving the interests of these very CFR-directed “robber barons” that put them in office; and both would impose a pro-Black and pro-Roman Catholic domestic and foreign policy specifically targeting the nation’s historic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and Baptist Middle Class for its final, economic destruction. Indeed, Jesuit-imposed, Counter-Reformation socialism is the “Final Solution to the Middle Class Question,” that White Middle Class born out of the risen Son of God’s Bible-based Protestant Reformation.
One more preface of fact: there is no such thing as a “State of the Union” address. The Federal Union of Sovereign American States called “These United States of America” created in 1789 died on July 28, 1868. On that day the 14th Amendment was proclaimed to be “ratified,” the amendment reversing the origin and character of American citizenship, the new national citizenship being “paramount and dominant” and state citizenship being “subordinate and derivative.” On that day of infamy, the Pope’s “Holy Roman” 14th Amendment American Empire was born. Therefore, the presidential address should be renamed “State of the Empire Address,” more accurately termed “The State of the Jesuit Empire Address.” This is what we heard from BDO’s lips last week—and he knows it!
Regarding the address, your editor maintains there were two policies promoted of utmost importance if the military Company of Jesus is to succeed in destroying the White Middle Class and impose martial law. They were the promotion of nationalized “Health Care,” i.e., socialized medicine continuing the unfettered Roman Catholic Latino Alien Invasion of America. The other is openly permitting the sodomite homosexual (erroneously called “gays”) invasion of the military to the outrage and disgust of the highest military commanders including the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Did you notice the cold and calculating response of the Joint Chiefs after Obama made that dastardly statement?
Yes, both policies will continue to destroy the White Protestant Middle Class—its highly advanced culture built with first prayers and then blood, sweat and tears to the exclusion of monetary handouts from government. And yes, both policies will continue to destroy White American peoples with our historic White Protestant history including factual knowledge of America’s Geneva/AV1611 Reformation Bible-based culture while rendering our national borders indefensible due to a sodomite-ridden, demoralized and undisciplined armed forces. Both Roosevelt and Obama are exceeding sinners before the risen Lord Jesus Christ, which inculcated, individual iniquity includes an incessant hatred for true, Reformation Bible-believing Protestant and Baptist Christians as well as racial Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites—the spiritual as well as the physical “seed of Abraham” through Issac and Jacob. In this light we shall examine what your editor considers to be the two keystone issues of the Biden/Davis-Obama “State of the Jesuit Empire” address.
First, the Order’s three-decade quest of establishing socialized medicine, culminating in the Obama mantra “Health Care for All Americans,” has been an original canard of the socialist-communist Democratic Party. It was a goal of Roman Catholic socialist-communist, gun-grabbing Senator Edward Kennedy, the murderer of Mary Jo Kopechne—according to an acquaintance who was a personal friend of the now deceased coroner having performed Mary Jo’s autopsy. Socialized medicine with no private sector competition will not only deprive the aging White WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War baby-boomer generations of present coverage, but will tremendously reduce the ability of allopathic physicians to immediately redress emergency surgical situations. The medical crisis now in Canada, England and Germany—three historically White Protestant nations—will come to America. Your editor knows of at least three doctors that will cease to practice medicine if the Obamacare/Clintoncare/Kennedycare plan becomes law.
But the 2074-page Health Care Act—backed by the American Jesuit Conference—must fall on its face in light of one key provision: free health care to every Roman Catholic Latino alien invader now within the borders of the Empire. Any and every true American patriot holding office in both the federal House and Senate would—without flinching a muscle—vote “No” without having to read one more word of the damnable bill. No Republican or Democratic congressman who loves the idea of national sovereignty and a strong middle class would ever vote for such an abomination which is nothing more than what the Holy Bible calls “a mischief framed by a law.” Further, to back the bill is to promote the Washington promoted, Roman Catholic Alien Invasion uniformly backed by the entire American Roman Hierarchy. The bill has a marvelous two-pronged effect: destroy the White Anglo Saxon Protestant Middle Class while “making America dominantly Roman Catholic”—the hue and cry of the Jesuit Order’s Knights of Columbus for over one hundred years! Anyone who votes for the act is, in fact, guilty of high treason—guilty of aiding and abetting “foreign intrigue” of which we were warned by George Washington, the Father of our deceased Confederate Republic of these United States of America. For that “foreign intrigue” is centered in the Jesuit-ruled Vatican.
Secondly, by mandating legalized sodomy in the military, angry and disenfranchised, normal heterosexual Whites will clamor for a military dictator to reverse the impending destruction of the armed forces. No army can fight “the enemy” and ever hope to win with advancing sodomites within the ranks or as officers: for to carry out orders requires respect for commanding officers. George Washington, our great White Baptist-Calvinist Father of the limited Calvinist Republic of the late United States of America (1789-1868) personally expelled sodomites from his army. Once acceptance of sodomy is protected by law in the military, the day of American patriotism inspiring men to defend the nation is over—to the delight of the Society of Jesus!
In conclusion, Davis-Obama’s “State of the Jesuit Empire Address” will continue to foster more New Right Republican Jesuit Fascism. It’s culmination will be martial law under a Jesuit-directed Fascist military dictator. At that moment the Order will be able to extirpate all “heretics and liberals” now termed “enemies of the state.” And the final curtain will close on over six million North American Jews. Davis-Obama’s radical socialist-communism—backed by certain notorious Pope-serving Freemasonic Jews—is facilitating the implementation of CFR/CIA/DHS-backed Jesuit Fascism. This is the reason why the Company’s CFR-controlled, Freemasonic, Fascist White Power Structure ruling America backed the “election” of Barry Davis Obama; this is why it is backing his socialist-communist policies destroying the “heretic and liberal” White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and Baptist Middle Class; this is why it is backing all gun confiscation in the private sector orchestrated to outrage all White men in general regardless of their religious creed.
Mulatto Barry Davis Obama’s Jesuit-backed socialist-communism is facilitating the coming endgame for America: Jesuit-backed socialist-fascism. And Davis-Obama, the Pope’s Islamic “altar boy” of the teleprompter, is playing his part to perfection. His “State of the Jesuit Empire Address” proves it! Any president who resists the plot will be terminated as was President Kennedy!



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