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Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology
Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy.
Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum. although some scholars claim that fascism has been influenced by both the left and the right.
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.
They identify violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality. They claim that culture is created by collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus rejects individualism.
In viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they claim that pluralism is a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety. They advocate the creation of a single-party state.
Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement. Fascists reject and resist autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of the fascists' nation and who refuse to assimilate or are unable to be assimilated. They consider attempts to create such autonomy as an affront and threat to the nation.
Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
Personally, I think each and every state should be it's own "union" of sorts. This little experiment called democracy isn't working. And it isn't going to work either, at least not on the scale that we are trying to make it work on.
VC reader Steven Hamori thinks that Leiter (like many contemporary commentators and perhaps the editors of the American Heritage Dictionary as well) is confused about the definition of fascism, and misinterprets the oft-repeated Mussolini/Gentile quote that “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” Hamori writes
[The quote] has circulated in the left wing blogshere for as long as I can recall… I believe it to be a real one too although some credit it to Giovanni Gentile (Mussolini allegedly took credit for it while not originally uttering it).[According to Wikipedia:]“Gentile, described both by himself and Mussolini as ‘the philosopher of Fascism’, was the ghostwriter of ‘A Doctrine of Fascism’ which, signed by Benito Mussolini, described Fascism in the Italian Encyclopedia (which was edited by Gentile).”
The problem is that a ‘corporate’ in Italian of the period is not a business organization. A corporate is a production planning board made up of workers, owners, and others involved in production advocated by the syndicalist school of socialism. Their beloved quote is actually Mussolini (or maybe Gentile) making a connection between fascism and socialism . . .
[Again, Wikipedia]“Historically, corporatism or corporative (Italian corporativismo) is a political system in which legislative power is given to corporations that represent economic, industrial and professional groups.”
“Under Fascism in Italy, business owners, employees, trades-people, professionals, and other economic classes were organized into 22 guilds, or associations, known as “corporations” according to their industries, and these groups were given representation in a legislative body known as the Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni.”
Hamori concludes:
I doubt Leiter knows anything about the history of fascism. Intellectually, the progressive left has a lot more in common with it than the ‘libertarian right’ (the real liberals). . . . If anyone advocates a merging of ‘business corporate’ and state it is the regulation happy / anti competition left. The average ‘right winger’ says let an uncompetitive business fail.
Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
I think that secession is inevitable. The people in America are now waking up, and are seeing things how they really are for the first time. They are learning to think independently, instead of being zombies, and doing what the gov't tells them to do.
Hopefully we will restore America to her libertarian roots soon, before a police state is put into place.
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by mnemeth1
Thanks, I always thought that when these people start saying it is a right thing, it was a way to keep people from realizing the left has ALL the tyrants.
Thanks for clarifying.
Originally posted by endisnighe
We have tried everything else, what else is there?
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by ghostsoldier78
That is why I brought up this thread, do we need to follow the free staters idea.
I like their Libertarian component, but it is also left leaning. They want everyone to pool money together but have the Libertarian ideals on the social aspect alone, not the economic. That still leads to tyranny.
Just trying to show that we do have power if we could move to a state and push the curve so to speak. Think small. Get in where we can make a difference.
I believe that is why the free staters chose Vermont.