Originally posted by dcgolf
SBP
You may want to stick to your day job. I guess since this didn't come true you can come out now and tell us who you really are. Congrats on your strong conviction, perhaps now we can move onto the next "attack".

Why on earth should she tell you who she is?
15th isn´t over yet (in US).
As for the next attack...
Within 24 hours in Europe, as I have guessed earlier...
Then if it doesn´t happen, GOOD!
And then you can laugh at ME.
If what I said does happen, then the credit would have to go to SBP as I would never have guessed if it wasn´t for this thread in the first place...
Let´s hope nothing will happen.

EDIT: I surrender...

[edit on 2004/8/16 by Hellmutt]

Originally posted by dcgolf
I guess since this didn't come true you can come out now and tell us who you really are.

Actually, I think you're making a better case for her remaining anonymous.

Producers, in particular, have to be extremely careful about their reputations or risk blowing deals where confidence in their abilities is a factor -- which is always the case in theatrical productions.

So I think it is wise for SBP to remain simply SBP. Hopefully she will see fit to return and aid us in further exploring her visions.

Originally posted by dcgolf
SBP
You may want to stick to your day job. I guess since this didn't come true you can come out now and tell us who you really are. Congrats on your strong conviction, perhaps now we can move onto the next "attack".

I think if you look at the date that she wrote the 8-15 prediction and some other predictions along the thread you would be less critical.

She also made a point which I will quote.

"I thought most of us are simply right sometimes and wrong sometimes."

I agree. Shouldn't you?

It's not like she wanted you to make a PayPal donation or go visit her iFriends site and sign up for a dollar.
Even if it was all in her imagination it was something that certainly grabbed your attention and that of many others, otherwise you wouldn't be posting to this thread.

She asked for nothing and gave some of us an interesting adventure back again and again to the ATS site.

Originally posted by evecasino
She asked for nothing and gave some of us an interesting adventure back again and again to the ATS site.

SBP, is after all, admittedly an entertainer, and clearly a talented one.

It cannot be overemphasized that the real treasure SBP can bring to the table is her specific insight into psychic phenomena, not just visions of the future.

Do not overlook the diamond in the rough. I really do think there is more of value here than meets the eye.

Originally posted by Majic
SBP, is after all, admittedly an entertainer, and clearly a talented one.

It cannot be overemphasized that the real treasure SBP can bring to the table is her specific insight into psychic phenomena, not just visions of the future.

Do not overlook the diamond in the rough. I really do think there is more of value here than meets the eye.

“Casting Couch” aspirations aside, I would entertain any talent admitted.

The real treasure I envision, is specific insight, whether psychic phenomena is emphasized or not.

A lump of coal is worth about seventeen pages of ATS bandwidth.

My two peanuts (Monkeys don’t use money).

Clairvoyant Monkeys, not just for “900” numbers anymore…

Evidently my sarcasim did not make it through my post. My whole point was that it doesn't matter if she reveals herself or not. Originally, she was afraid to contact anyone for fear of being questioned by authorities.

I'm glad she was wrong. I just hope now everyone else will be a little more skeptical of any more SBP predictions. Other than the time, place, method and event she was right on.

Don't get me wrong, I will continue to read all prediction posts. I just think the concept of this website is to present both sides of the story. I have tried to do this without calling SBP names. She had a "vision", it was wrong, and we're all glad. Hopefully she can sleep easy tonight.

August 15th has come and gone - and so has 2.12pm.....what now?!!!

Originally posted by Sarahko
August 15th has come and gone - and so has 2.12pm.....what now?!!!

My advice: Wait, and watch. Time will answer many questions.

let me shed some light on the "date"

8 1 5 4 = 99 = 9/5/04

this is the date "she" saw.

not 8/15/04 but 9/5/04

8+1 = 9
5+4 = 9

13+5=18

Circular numeric guidance.

out of cursiousity, how do you know what she saw? do the voices that talk to her talk to you as well?

Originally posted by robertfenix
let me shed some light on the "date"

8 1 5 4 = 99 = 9/5/04

this is the date "she" saw.

not 8/15/04 but 9/5/04

8+1 = 9
5+4 = 9

13+5=18

Circular numeric guidance.

this might make scence if she predicted a date like 1/19/04 and it ended up being 11/9/04 but since its not like that then your idea makes no scence. but i cant spell so what do i know.

Is it shocking that SBP hasn't posted anything since the supposed date? Perhaps she is too busy working on another movie or perhaps working out a deal with Miss Cleo.

Ms. SBP might have actually affected the outcome due making her insight public knowledge. Perhaps the catastrophy was avoided because events were put in motion, after revealing such, that made hte event more unlikely. It's an interesting hypothesis. Maybe 911 occurred because NOONE prophesied it...

Dubwya Bush dies in a plane "incident" I saw it this morning.

He is on the campaign trail and suddenly they lose contact with his aircraft, the media is not privy to what happened. And there are no reports from around the country as to where the plane "went". Its late September or early October, right before they announce that we have OBL. The country is in Chaos as no information is leaked about what happened. Its a dramatic two or maybe three days and then details are leaked about what the goverment knows. There is a news cast with a female reporter talking about what is known so far, and I see lots of green trees like the everglades, its flat and kind of swamp like. I saw the little pop in icon like window graphic that says. Presidential Aircraft Accident. They do not have confirmation about who was on the "aircraft" nor do they have an idea of the total debris site, just a few bits and pieces here and there that indicate they are from a Presidential aircraft, although they will not confirm or deny that it was Airforce One or Marine One or some other type of aircraft. There are no large debris sections that they can locate. Just some blackened "debris" sites that match the proposed location of the Presidents aircraft at the time.

The American public is in the dark about the leaders of our own Country...

In reference to the plane incident I find that a bit hard to really comprehend. The president is never on his plane without a significant press corp traveling with him. Especially during an election year. I don't think they could keep it quiet due to the number of "non-elected" officials traveling with him. Now the exception would be marine one although often times the pool reporter for the day is on Marine one with him.

Not saying this won't happen, I have an open mind when it comes to predictions but the "cover up" seems too difficult to believe.

Originally posted by nativeokie
The president is never on his plane without a significant press corp traveling with him.

I was just about to reply with this same theory.

Have you tried looking the key parts of your dream up in a dream book. Things are often not what they seem in a dream. And here's another idea sometimes things are backwards in your dream, Like the date for instance. All or part of it can be switched around. We all need to be on our toes and keep our eyes open. I'm glad it didnt hapen on 8/15. I just hope she was wrong about everything. I don't discredit her though cause i know some ppl who see the future and sometimes not all of their visions come true only part of them, And 8/15/04 might not be a date at all but something else like cruise #'s or info. Think about that!

It does not matter who was on the "aircraft" at the time, if they are all dead, they are all dead, regardless if they are from the press etc. Therefore its all the same. I did not "see" the date, only a rough impression as to the relative time frame.

For instance if it was Airforce One and it was on approach somewhere and lets say was shot at by a SA-2 or SA-7 or perhaps struck by another aircraft at say an altitude of 5,000 to 3,000 feet. Or maybe none of the above but a freak mechanical mishap that resulted in the loss of the "aircraft". What do you think the goverment would try and do ? If they knew without a doubt that it was not an act of terrorism but faulty maintenance that brought the "aircraft" down, would they really readily disclose it ? Leaving every single citizen of this Country feeling vulnerable that if the Presidents safety can not be assured then I must be in real peril.

I doubt that the press core, while travelling with the President, is allowed to make personal cell phone calls. I would bet that EM traffic is blocked to prevent "leaks".