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Poll: ‘Anti-socialist’ Tea Party activists want government to create jobs

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posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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rawstory.com...



Tea Party sympathizers are against government "socialism" except when it comes to their own jobs, a new poll has found.

Seventy percent of those who identify as Tea Partiers -- a platform that strongly decries government intervention in public life -- want an interventionist government to create jobs, and only about one in three believe Medicaid and Medicare are "socialist" programs, according to a new Bloomberg poll.

"Tea Party activists, who are becoming a force in U.S. politics, want the federal government out of their lives except when it comes to creating jobs," the wire notes wryly.

"More than 90 percent of Tea Party backers interviewed in a new Bloomberg National Poll say the U.S. is verging more toward socialism than capitalism, the federal government is trying to control too many aspects of private life and more decisions should be made at the state level," it adds. "At the same time, 70 percent of those who sympathize with the Tea Party, which organized protests this week against President Barack Obama’s health-care overhaul, want a federal government that fosters job creation."


Let me get this straight....

It's socialism when taxes are used to provide health care for the poor but morphs drastically when taxes are used to provide training and jobs. It's these kinds of hypocritical inconsistencies that the GOP will use in discrediting the TPM.
The TPM needs to find a strong leader that can articulate it's platform and plans on how to make America faster, better, stronger instead of just being the second party to parrot NO.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by whaaa]




posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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i guess the poorly veild racisim wont be that poorly veild for that much longer...

its not going to be long till all these "obama haters" have ran out of excused for not liking him, when its simple... its because he is black and they dont like it.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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I know it won't go over well, but I still think the TPM is really just a tool for the establishment to discredit all who point out their anti-constitutional tendencies.

I agree that they lack an articulate 'non-celebrity' leader. Perhaps one might be able to corral all the distinct objections they have into a coherent message that isn't exemplified in the behavior of people who would, in due course, be banned from ATS for their inability to communicate non-violently.

We really need a second party in the political system... too bad they won't allow one. This make-believe duality is becoming insulting.

I recently heard a local long-time democrat in my area is switching parties to 'reach out' to the republicans in his area.... interesting way to characterize another instance proving that there is no difference between them at all, other than ineffectual symbols and slogans.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by Maxmars]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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Well don't expect intelligence or rationality from the Tea Party, or ATS for that matter!
Ironic that Reagan said "the government IS the problem", as President and HEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT, isn't it? Then pretty much acted like any other President.
Simple people go for slogans and simple solutions, boy was Obama right when he said they cling to theirs guns and religion!



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:23 AM
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It looks to me like someone at Bloomberg misinterpreted the results their polling company gave them. This is clearly not a poll of only Tea Party members, made obvious by the fact that only 26% identify themselves as supporters on page 7. The next series of questions deals with the 'socialism' aspect, yet there's nothing in the official poll results to suggest that this was asked only of Tea Party supporters. In fact, I suspect it was asked of everyone.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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i think quotes of old can answer this:

If a man does not know to what port he is sailing, no wind is favourable.
-Seneca the Younger

To lead untrained people to war is to throw them away
- Confucius

A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house
- Socrates

The wise man speaks because he has something to say, the fool because he has to say something
-Aristotle

yet....

The valiant profit more their country than the finest, cleverest speakers.
-Plautus


i believe with a consolidated voice of what is real, and what is actually boogey-man, the tea-partiers (i always thought it was a terrible name) might actually get something done to restore our country to former light.

the worst thing that could happen is glenn beck or sarah palin become the leader.

wasnt there a guy who said he was from the future, said that the destruction of the world came about by an army of conservative radicals led by these 2?

i believe if we arent careful, a hitler figure could emerge and skew everyone for the worst way.... the atmosphere is ripe for the taking.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 11:41 AM
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err..

no

If you look at the poll:

Mar. 26 (Bloomberg) -- The Bloomberg National Poll, conducted Mar. 19-22 for Bloomberg News by Selzer & Co. Inc. of Des Moines, IA, is based on interviews with 1,002 U.S. adults ages 18 or older. Interviewers contacted households with randomly selected landline and cell phone telephone numbers. Percentages based on the full sample may have a maximum margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

media.bloomberg.com...

Those numbers reflect EVERYONE - not tea party people.

The Raw Story report was written by an idiot.

Also, the questions asked are not exactly as reported by Raw Story, they are interpretations.

Edit: The Bloomberg report that Raw Story is reporting on was also written by an idiot.

Just look at the poll.

None of the conclusions drawn are justified by the poll results.


[edit on 26-3-2010 by mnemeth1]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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I also might add that "fostering job creation" to a tea partier would entail lowering taxes, drastically reducing spending, and cutting government programs.

So even if they were asked that question specifically, which the poll results make it clear they were not, of course they would say government should play a roll in fostering job creation - by getting the hell out of the way.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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What methods do you think the TPM would use to foster job growth?

I also might add that the way the current TPM is structured it is nothing more than a Dick Army fan club. The TPM needs some real charismatic leaders and a rocksolid platform and strategy to be effective against the dempubs.

I cover our local TPM movements for our Cable Access Channel [producer/director] and it looks more like picnic for old white guys, talking about the best brand of jumper cables than politics.


I have yet to see any movement toward getting anyone elected in 2010 by the TPM. I have a feeling they will fall into line when Rush, Sean, and that other guy tells them to. Oh, yeah....Beck


[edit on 26-3-2010 by whaaa]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Further proof that the vast majority of American Republicans have absolutely no idea what socialism actually is. In fact, I would wager cash money that less than 10% can successfully define it and that's being mighty generous.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by boaby_phet
i guess the poorly veild racisim wont be that poorly veild for that much longer...

its not going to be long till all these "obama haters" have ran out of excused for not liking him, when its simple... its because he is black and they dont like it.



Thats just pure 100% BS.

Why is it hard for people like you to understand it isnt about race, its about unconstitutional policies that will destroy the nation.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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No need to bring any facts into the discussion. Don't you understand, the ignorant have to portray the TPM as a bunch of loons.

Of course the ignorant are only making it bigger.

Then the ignorant have to attack anything against the Dem/Repub paradigm.

I just wish the ignorant could see the their own ignorance.

I guess that is why they are ignorant.

Signing off here from ignorance central.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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I just recieved an email from 'info@BarackObama.com'



Branden --

We knew that power concedes nothing. So did President Obama. So did the members of Congress who courageously voted for reform, knowing that the special interests and the extreme right wing would retaliate swiftly.

The attacks are fierce. Deceptive ads are hitting the airwaves in swing districts. GOP lawmakers are pushing to repeal reform -- and preventing the Senate from performing basic functions. A few Republican attorneys general have launched a baseless attack to overturn the legislation. But that's not even the worst of it.

A conservative blogger posted the home address of Congressman Tom Perriello, urging tea partiers to "drop by." Other members have had death threats. Democratic offices have been vandalized.

Please chip in $5 or more to defend health reform -- and those in Congress who fought to make it possible.


Isn't it a little wrong to be asking for money just after telling people about threats to congressman? I think they are trying to profit from these attacks.


Anyways... I am against the Tea Partiers but this poll was a poll of all people not just the Tea Partiers so it doesn't prove anything.




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