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Wahhh..I want my way and if i can't get it there will be trouble

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posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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reply to post by dariousg
 


actually if i remember, and it doesnt have to be that long ago, to the age of when bush was in office....

werent all the libs screaming in the streets to murder him?

as far as i see, its the same thing.... except libs dont have guns like conservatives do.

for some reason i just got a flash of a rap video with ultra conservatives flashin their gats

haha




posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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Something will eventually happen that will cause these,spineless,
cowardly, armchair revolutionists, to act.When that happens, all
heck will break loose.Imagine a people that goes temporarily mad
and runs rampant in the streets.Taking the law into their own hands
and demanding that our government acts as our elected servants,
not vice versa.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by mahtoosacks
reply to post by dariousg
 


actually if i remember, and it doesnt have to be that long ago, to the age of when bush was in office....

werent all the libs screaming in the streets to murder him?

as far as i see, its the same thing.... except libs dont have guns like conservatives do.

for some reason i just got a flash of a rap video with ultra conservatives flashin their gats

haha


And again, the mark is missed by SO MUCH that it's not even funny. You see, I used to be a republican. No, I'm not a dem now. I'm an American that is sick of the bs being thrown at us. Sick of the continual attempts to divide us so we can be more easily conquered.

But on to your statement about libs not being armed.

Let's look at some of the more violent attacks in this nation. Say the bombings of federal buildings and violent protests that turn into all out brawls.

If you look really closely you will find that most of the more violently political crimes that have taken place have been perpetrated by libs. As a matter of fact, our current leader has had dealings with a man that was convicted of bomging the pentagon. He's definitely a lib.

But because he didn't use guns that makes him less dangerous than a conservative that feels the right to bare arms is essential to this nation remaining free?

I honestly think that if we ever lose that right that this country will be torn apart.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Doc Velocity

Originally posted by OldDragger
I'm fed up with hillbillies claiming they are the true patriots. I'm fed up with those that love The Constitution so much they want to imprision or shoot anyone that thinks differently than they do, in the name of freedom.

You should go have a talk with your "boy" Barack Obama, then... Seems I recall that he's ramping up the military presence in Afghanistan, escalating the killing over there in the name of "freedom"...

Silly socialists. You're all so "fed up with patriotism"... LOL... Yeah, I BET YOU ARE. Which is why your ass hole representatives in Congress are earnestly trying to make patriotism illegal.

— Doc Velocity


Socialist? What I am hearing from you guys is dictatorship....you think you know what is right for your country and claim patriotism..but you simply want what Hitler wanted...the right to choose what is and isn't right for your country...it does not matter what your fellow countrymen want only what you guys want.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Booooooooo!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


The truth is often shunned.


Can't say how much you missed the mark on that pathetic post. LOL


I didn't miss the mark. From the increased amount of threats Obama has faced (more than any other president), to racial slurs being hurled at members of congress and senate, to people claiming he (Obama) was born in Kenya, isn't a citizen, born muslim, Antichrist, etc...it is all there.


I'm a white man. I was NOT for bombing Iraq. I didn't see a damn bit of evidence for bombing Iraq. I didn't support Afghanistan because THEY didn't attack us. Supposedly it was a man leading a group of fanatics that happened to be in Afghanistan. But that doesn't mean we attack them.


How did you voice your concerns? Did you call for overthrowing the government?


And no, I wouldn't have supported this pathetic bill had Bush proposed it and signed it into law. Or Clinton, or Reagan for that matter.


If you say so, but I doubt it.


So please keep your unintelligent and non-thought out statements like this to yourself.


You are entitled to your opinion.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by mahtoosacks
reply to post by dariousg
 


actually if i remember, and it doesnt have to be that long ago, to the age of when bush was in office....

werent all the libs screaming in the streets to murder him?

as far as i see, its the same thing.... except libs dont have guns like conservatives do.

for some reason i just got a flash of a rap video with ultra conservatives flashin their gats

haha


Well well you do have a mind
. At least you have an opinion on something instead simple name calling. You are right...people on either side have thier mental cases. About the lins not having guns

www.theliberalgunclub.com...

oooo...so close...maybe stop making stuff up and argue points that are factual


Replies directed to me will be answered tommorrow...time to live life and get off of the computer


[edit on 25-3-2010 by kerazeesicko]



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Okay so you bash Bush and the conservatives bash Obama and blame each other for the mess.

Truth is they were both hatched out of the same egg. Barely a bit of difference between the two. Both lying, cheating, thieves along with 99% of the buttwipes in Congress.

Throw all the bums out and return to a Constitutional government that recognizes the 10th Amendment. Nobody seems to really understand what true "States Rights" would do. The nitwits in Mass and California and wherever else could have their socialist state and leave the conservatives the hell alone.

Each of the states would then become a reflection of their electorate and live or die by it. As it is we have a bloated Federal Bureaucracy that was never envisioned by the founders and the states are forced to abide by laws enforced by the Feds that are absolutely unconstitutional.

[edit on 25-3-2010 by expat2368]



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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@ OP

Its not my fault. Did you not get the memo?



Must be a reason....

To translate to your trolling level. Hey mod there is a twenty over by your desk on the ground...see it... its there I swear keep looking...

@OP

Grabs by the shirt and lifts of the ground...

Care to say it to my face... Let me explain something real quick to you..

Hey mod it is there I swear go check your pants in the laundry room

@OP

Perhaps I am smart enough not run mouth around idiots like you. Perhaps its not time yet due to the fact all avenues of fixing have not been followed. I suggest next time you try to take money out of my pocket watch your hands...

I swear mods it there...Maybe your neighbor picked it up. Go ask them..

@OP

I have had complaints against both parties and I have been quiet and waiting. All avenues of redress have not been pursued.

I swear mod he started it



@OP

If you wish to call me out as an armchair revolutionary all I have to say is that its a rocker


If your going to troll expect others to troll you back,,,

I leave you with a question. Where is you proof?

I see none argue backing your statement.

BTW, I alway get my way!!!!



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Your posts, on their own

are reason to patronise ATS



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Hahahahaha, best rebutal I've seen in awhile. I guess today was kind of slow for news, that seems to be when the trolls come out. If they can't feed on someone else's thread, they start one.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Hahahahaha, best rebutal I've seen in awhile. I guess today was kind of slow for news, that seems to be when the trolls come out. If they can't feed on someone else's thread, they start one.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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I'm starting to think this whole healthcare fiasco is another way for the PTB to divide and distract us while they continue on with more sinister sh**.

This war between conservatives and liberals is going no where.


[edit on 25-3-2010 by Striker122]



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Doc Velocity

Originally posted by lee anoma
Everyone else is. Especially popular talk radio and FOX news.


That's either stupidity talking or an outright lie.


Is there a third option you are forgetting?



NO talk show hosts have incited the masses to violence —


I said they are "inciting" this group, and you don't mean "ever" with that bold statement right?

Anyway, look at when the FBI arrested Far-Right Radio Host Hal Turner, who advocated killing federal judges for a ruling upholding handgun bans. To quote him:
‘Let me be the first to say this plainly: These Judges deserve to be killed.’

Inciting.

Or recently Mike Vanderboegh, of Freedomizer Radio.
He is currently saying go vandalize and destroy the Democratic Party Headquarters.

Inciting.
It is happening.

In this case the more popular hosts aren't outright telling people to go out and kill politicians of course, that would be absurd and illegal, but you don't need to do that to incite people to such a point. You just keep fear-mongering and pushing on their paranoia.

Their reckless and venomous rhetoric is inciting and fueling a lot of anger and as anyone with a history book knows, this is courting violence.

Some are doing this for support and ratings and it is VERY dangerous.


"The message to Democrats should be clear. I’m advocating broken windows. I’m advocating vandalism.”

“Folks, you need to be getting ready. You need to looking to your larders. You need to be looking to your arsenals. You need to be looking to your physical fitness. You need to be looking toward your neighbors, and who can you count on. How do you build small fire teams and things like that. These are the things you must be doing now because events will overtake you if you do not.”
- Mike Vanderboegh, Freedomizer Radio

The government will be able to "commit a violent assault on your body."

"You are going to see insurrection. You're going to see an uprising."
"The response" to passing health reform "will be insurrection."
- Quinn, The War Room with Quinn & Rose

"Obama is literally at war with the American people"
- Mark Levin

When you turn 65, "hello death panels."

"Obamacare" will "smother the individual," "aimed at robbing you of your humanity," "all of us will be slaves."
-Rush Limbaugh

"This is the end of prosperity in America forever ... the end of America as you know it."

Obama has a "deep-seated hatred of white people,"

(white males) are being driven into murderous rage by "political correctness."

Beck joking about wanting to POISON The Speaker Of the House
- Glen Beck.

"Those crazies in Montana who say, 'We're going to kill ATF agents because the UN's going to take over' -- well, they're beginning to have a case."
- Dick Morris

Fox News personalities' pattern of violent rhetoric

Maddow: Emboldened Extremist Right Incites Violence

Right-wing media's dire predictions: If health reform passes

Pelosi, Hoyer blame GOP for inciting vandalism, threats

NOW when it starts happening:

Republicans Distance Themselves From Threats to Democrats


If you don't think this sort of vitriolic rhetoric is inciting these people to irrational anger and fear, especially the extremists which are on the edge as it is, and this will inevitably lead to violent acts, then you may be in for a few surprises.

Still, I won't crassly lock you in a box between "stupid" or "liar".
I'll just say you are being very very naive.



- Lee



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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What a pathetic attempt at trolling... Sigh. All I'll say is be careful what you wish for you just might get it...



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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grab me by my shirt. Trust me you would not want to try to step up to me face to face..
. I am not going to try to sound like an internet tough guy soI will leave it at that. Actually this is not trolling..this is a very simple question asked by one member to others. You people consider it trolling because there is some fact to what I am saying..also keep considering it trolling.
...If it irks you..don't reply. Wow
...yes ....it is that simple.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
What a pathetic attempt at trolling... Sigh. All I'll say is be careful what you wish for you just might get it...


Are you one of the armchair revolutionists I am talking about? If so...I will take my chances at it NOT happening because we all know the armchair revolutionists mouths are bigger than thier actions. False bravado has never been anything to worry about. You do know that there are people on ATS that do not take you seriously and consider the so-called revolutionists a joke. When you can step up to the plate and actually do something then maybe we will take you a little more serious.untill then...Points at these guys and
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[edit on 25-3-2010 by kerazeesicko]



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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The honestly hilarious part in the hypocrisy of people who call out the would be revolutionaries.

First they will tell them that revolution is not the answer.

When that doesn't work they will tell them that revolution will fail anyway because all we would have are a bunch of pointless "terrorist attacks".

When the revolutionaries still will not back down, they will incite the all to common "then why don't you do something already?"

When the revolutionary informs them of strategy and planning they will instead call them cowards.



So either way, the argument is a trolls dream. You either have a revolutionary that will act fast and rashly and accomplish nothing or you have a revolutionary that would prepare and wait for the opportune moment - and be called a coward in the process. In the mind of the ANTI-revolutionary - there is no room for someone to actually uphold the vows of revolution.

All people have defense mechanisms but honestly, this is ridiculous. I haven't been on ATS all the long, and I have never made a promise or prediction that I did not uphold - yet I would be classed in a category with those who are all talk and no action.

The entire situation is no better then stereotypical discrimination against ideas different than your own. I am not so stupid as to fall into the trap because there would be those that are discouraged by the words against them. However, it is the revolutionaries of the past that fought through the haters and those who would choose to destroy their character and belittle them - and it was those revolutionaries that achieved their goals in the end.





So OP, anyone who agrees, laugh and tout your opinions as though they were weapons of God. Meanwhile us revolutionaries - those who are actually serious about such - we will take care of the mess when the SHTF.



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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Ahhh..the ever popular...I am waiting for the right time excuse. It is the cowards way out all these excuses...yes...you are one of the ones I am talking about..I heard you state you are waiting till 2013...geez...what is the date after then? If you are not going to do anything until then...why come on ATS calling for a revolution if you are not going to do anything about it till said date. Are you going to grow a pair between now and then?



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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While I agree about the armed revolution being a stupid idea. I understand the anger I also have it. Free Speech is important as long is does not infringe on another's right to freedom.



But you do realise you are no better and are trying to instigate a fight why? To make yourself feel strong our to make the other side feel bad which is it?



posted on Mar, 25 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Like I said..... I neither retract nor back down... I am not a tough guy to answer your attempt at a rebuttal...

I am a man who has simply had enough.

Ill post when and where I please.

Now let take this to the level you suggested.



Wahhh..I want my way and if i can't get it there will be trouble Anyone else tired of hearing these armchair revolutionists? I mean they constantly harp on how they are tired of the way the government treats them and are prepared to do some damage...just not right now...


I do remember asking you to post any evidence that all are armchair revolutionaries.

As for me personally its called picking your shot Einstein. You need to pick up a book and review your history.

If I didnt know better so far it seems your attempting to provoke responses. then when you get one you resort to AMOGing..

Well I dont buy it. Be a good little kid and let the grown ups talk.

i.e. go sit at the kiddie table...



I don't know about you guys but in my book I call those types of people spineless cowards...unwilling to back up thier false bravado with action out of fear.


As for spineless cowards, how about coming out with your agenda straight out instead of hiding. You afraid the Mods ill nail yeah. I call...

I have put my money where my mouth is. Read over my post.

Its simple in case you cant follow. go to the top of my picture to the left of my post. click on my name. It will take you to my profile. Click on post then follow it to any post Ive posted...

As for following through, I have been:

Attempting to council friends and people I like but are slow at the very least to unpleasant odds.

Putting together a business so I can hire some of the honest hard working Americans Ive met.

Helping to try and set a tone and explaining what can still be done legally.

Planning for worst case scenario and praying for the best.

Trying to make sure them numbskulls are at least warned about the possibilities of coming actions. You know this way I have a clean conscious.



They must realize that just because you can shoot targets and animals pretty good does not mean you are ready for war. If it happens and when it is over..the military will find them in the fetal postion sucking thier thumb in thier own urine...saying I'm sorry please stop.


You really need to read your history.... Sounds just like the men and women who fought to found this country.

So far you have used a mix of highly emotional value words with a pathetic attempt at anchoring.




Hey get you thumb out your mouth op and listen!!!!!


Just because you have male submissive fantasies does not mean I suffer from the same issue.

The truth of the matter is that so far you have provided no evidence back your claims. At the very least will you either say you do not have any.. Its called being a man... Or at least post case histories of similar instances and site how it applies....

As for the nature of the HCR bill or whatever name it is now under. This was quite a well planned legal assault on what the MAJORITY wanted. They do not want this.

I have to give props to the planners of this it is beautiful. The have anticipated the constitutional challenges and surmounted them easily. As I have said and will predict here again. The X amendment will not be held viable against the commerce clause because in the cases the government lost not a single issue applied to the Legislatures actions...

My hats off to a well played hand


I am even going to go so far as to say they have counted and measured possible opponents. They know who will challenge it and what they are made of.

As one of those armchair revolutionaries as you called them said, They have probably thought of it and dismissed it.

What you seem to forget is that the administration and the legislature violated a maxim of leadership. They are paying the price for not connecting with the people on it and are shoving it down their throats.

21 irrefutable laws of leadership

especially number six and number ten...

I will take a wild guess you are a liberal... So far all our present, CHANGE, has done is ensured what could have been accomplished will now fail. Your good liberal buddies have handed the keys back to the republicans....

I guess youll be saying its their fault next....

BTW,someone said that two sides are the same coin and are being played as fools...




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