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posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by 12.13.2012

Originally posted by spinalremain

Originally posted by 12.13.2012
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you cant understand how both parties only subscribe to private interests and corporations? and please dont align that theory with david Icke, whether that is something he says or not, because then it will lead to the concept that just because he is saying both parties are controlled- then automatically I am agreeing with every other theory of his, because I am not david ickes' representative. that would be like saying if you believe the federal reserve is shady, then you also agree with everything else alex jones say.


No. I do understand that there is bipartisanship. I understand that both parties have common interests in certain areas. But to acknowledge a 2 party system is to not subscribe to the party system as a diversion. I only use Icke because most people are familiar with his ideas. The aforementioned party theory is one of his larger ones along with NWO and such.


^^ ok, well if you cant grasp this concept (contrary to what popular conditioning forces most people to believe), then theres nothing im going to say that will help you to make sense of the rest of it. you're going to have to realize that only making more profit is at the top of *most if not all politicians' agendas. all the song and dance for the public is to be able to keep it going, so they "battle it out" on C-span like a sports game of words, to keep everyone in the loop of feeling like slowly progress is being made, so you will not be upset and stop producing. it an old tested program, and it is very successful


I see this argument from pseudo-intellectuals all the time. They throw their hands up in the air and say something like, "Well, if you can't understand that I'm saying, then there's really no point in talking". What you're REALLY saying is that if we can't subscribe to your basic ideology, then you'll never get how all this works.

Insulting at the very least and working towards mind control at it's most sinister. No one wants to be called "dumb", but that's essentially what you're doing and wrapping it all up in the intellectual/knowledge spectrum. Deceitful.




posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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We All Should be chipped for the new world order besides Civilians the Government officials FBI CIA NSA Agents military ETC

Spy's would be obsolete as spy's would be pointless! as every country will find a way to decode the chip no more Interrogation you know the person whole life history if there not chipped like us I will reactivate my (Marine) Combat Mode waiting at the door with a full arsenal
why have a Chip we already have a Chip in every individual it called DNA ,a Retina Scan would Work the same We just need to improve the progress Minority Report here we come ! we just need to prevent thought crimes !

what would happen is someone switched a chip with someone else Identity


Papers Please
i see your number is XXX

we have to detain you, your chip is not functioning

we see you have been released we will keep a eye on you

your uniform is not in order with your occupation of you chips claims

your chip says you have blue eyes not brown and you left handed and your writing with your right hand

we see that you purchased Mein Kampf en.wikipedia.org... and 1984 en.wikipedia.org... do you feel Ill ? no you need help ? have you take your Pill ?



I see a Man in a Black uniform with full combat gear coming at my door !

I gotta think good thoughts !

Mr Orwell your Vision is becoming so true ! take your pill thx1138




[edit on 26-3-2010 by Wolfenz]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Wait until they release nanobot cures for cancer.

Considering current cancer rates, a microchip/nanobot cure could very well get over half the population chipped.

Very well possible, and maybe right around the corner.

Myself and many others have already envisioned a million ways of marketing this to the majority, but the answer I always get from people who I talk to about it is "Well I'd never take one", as if that settles everything. I'm sure many people who say "over my dead body" might think about it completely differently if it were a sure complete cure for their terminal disease.

People won't listen until they are in a position to react, proactive thinking is discouraged and only expressed through entertainment in controlled developed societies. This is one that won't be fought until it's too late...

[edit on 26-3-2010 by maus80]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 05:33 PM
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Nope! I do not think for one second that the American people will go for this! This is not only a bad idea but a scary idea as well!



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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DO YOU KNOW WHY I PULLED YOU OVER?
no officer i dont
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESENT YOURSELF FOR A SCAN ?
what's the problem sir, why did you stop me?
I WILL NEED YOU TO PRESENT YOURSELF FOR A SCAN PLEASE.
(sticks arm out of window and is scanned)
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I SEE YOUR NEW TO THE AREA MRS BUNNY
yes we just moved here recently, can you tell me why you stopped me?
WE RECEIVED A CALL ABOUT A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE MATCHED YOURS.
WE'RE JUST CHECKING AND KEEPING THE AREA SAFE.
ARE YOU FINDING THE AREA TO YOUR LIKING MRS BUNNY?
IS EVERYTHING GOING WELL?
why um yeah sure everythings fine, why do you ask?
JUST POLITE CONVERSATION.
yes yes everythings fine.
I SEE YOU JUST LEFT THE GROCERY STORE A FEW MINUTES AGO BUT YOU DONT SEEM TO HAVE ANY GROCERIES IN YOUR CAR.
ACTUALLY IT TELLS ME YOURE SUPPOSE TO BE DRIVING A FORD TRUCK
AND NOT THIS PRIMOPUSS.
yeah this is my friends car
WHO'S YOUR FRIEND MRS BUNNY
listen i didnt do anything can i go now
YOU JUST SIT TIGHT HERE MRS BUNNY I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.................

(What is that Mrs Bunny up to now? Did the officer do anything wrong?)


[edit on 26-3-2010 by HappilyEverAfter]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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This can and probably will happen!

Most things in people's lives are already run on credit...why not have a chip, instead of standing in line your whole grocery bill can be paid (credit or debit) just scanners when leaving the store. Just bag, or have assistance by a mechanicalbagger to bag and you're on your way. Make the "consumer" happy, because that's all we are to Big Brother.

Of course, we want the convince after all we're to busy raising little consumers.

The chips are in Fido and Fluffy already, but a more detailed chip would be perfect for Grandpa(oh wait he has one since 2007 because he has Alzheimer's) and Lil Tommy so they don't get lost!

Money savers for all!
No lines= no cashiers, kinda like the self register lines, but more convenient and time saving!

Companies save money down from 20 cashiers to a few stand by clerks in big stores.

Then... store prices go down because of less people to pay, or so they say. But it's on credit anyway, why care now?!

The future is coming!

Can take it a step further in future possibility if this would be accepted:

Chips(computer-like memory) implanted into the brain, such as skill chips to start you on the way to be a skilled helper bee.

College, why college when a chip has all of the info...
Mind's rewritten memories...Virtual Trips to Mars!
Okay turning into Total Recall?!

Control our whole lives, make life easy for us!(/end sarcasm)

It is said, by the VeriChip company other other people, that the chips cannot be tracked by GPS. Wether or not they can be, probably will be soon, doesn't matter. That's because if one were to allow this, they would allow any point of government control in their life, thus allowing the 'future' brain chip implant (above) to happen. In the closer future it will control your whole finanaces... more or less your WHOLE life.


[edit on 26-3-2010 by dreamingawake]



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:37 AM
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This Video was Posted by SpartanKingLeonidas on a similar thread . In it they discuss Chipping Pets , and the adverse effects it has on their Health . Imagine then what it could do to a Human Body......


www.youtube.com...

[edit on 27-3-2010 by Zanti Misfit]

[edit on 27-3-2010 by Zanti Misfit]



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:38 AM
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Great Topic OP. It is thought stimulating and entertaining.

This is exactly the direction we are headed for. Whether this is good or bad I am reserving judgment on. Consider for a moment if the intentions behind the OP's questions are benign. Working 4 hours a day on an automated system. Abolishing 600,000 + statutes. Only violent crimes, theft and negligent crimes being punishable offenses. Travel to anywhere in the world on your free time. Do anything you want if it is not a crime. Being the master of what you take into your body. All and more brought to you by sacrificing some of your freedom of location and time when the system needs you.

RFID and tracking technology in general could pave the way to free energy. It would be nearly impossible to trade free energy for currency indefinantly. Instead, you trade your time for a home, car, food, water, medical treatment and a bunch of credits to enjoy life's vices.

In a more bizarre train of thought, the unrelenting increase of information gathering and technological advance could bring humanity to the Technological Singularity. A strange theory. A google search will give you plenty of information. What a coincidence.

In regards to the Book of Revelations. I am not a christian, but I have read the work. It is eerie how things seem to be coming together. I could fill a thread with theories, so I will not.

By the way OP, I thought your analogy of RFID chips and stigmata to be 100% money.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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great thread and on the money. its in line with prophecies out of "revelations", (hope i got the right book). the mark of the beast?

and another point, (if nobody mentioned it, i have not the time to read all the replies)when you are non-productive for your "benevolent" government, they will terminate you by releasing a hidden poison in your chip.

its bad enough now, but existence will become far worse before the end time arrives.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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I would honestly rather die than be micro-chipped like some wild animal.

I wont need to though, seen as i know the RFID will happen in America first and seen as im not American ill get plenty of warning before im forced to fall off the grid.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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I would honestly rather die than be micro-chipped like some wild animal.

I wont need to though, seen as i know the RFID will happen in America first and seen as im not American ill get plenty of warning before im forced to fall off the grid.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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This is my first post after lurking this forum for a couple days now. The OP hit on alot of well made points. What stood out the most for me was the practice of putting Americans in a situation of need or desperation caused by debt to then offer a "cheap" "fast" "conveneint""hasslefree" solution. Sadly those words are used way to frequently these days and is becoming a trend for our society. Not only is the idea of chips plausible but from our recent trends of a society it would seem inevitable. Eventually we will get to a point that without "agreeing" to participate you would not be able to function as a normal citizen. Scary thoughts indeed.



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Don't you guys think that there would be many religious problems with this idea though? Some religions are very strict when it comes to altering the body. I would think that injecting a chip would be considered a desecration by many, and subsequently relieved of the mandate. There are just so many variables to this subject. I personally do not ever see it happening. It is just too extreme.

(Mrs. Bunny was speeding!)


[edit on 27-3-2010 by spinalremain]



posted on Mar, 27 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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Sounds wonderful, sign me up!



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 07:20 AM
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It couldn't be spelled out any clearer for you guy:

If you refuse the chip, you will be required to carry it on your persons at all times! If you are scanned and don't return a reading, you will be held and charged.

It's as simple as that. "What if it's against my religion?" "What if I refuse?" etc, need not be asked anymore.

Maybe if I type it out one more time, it will sink in:

If you are not willing to have this technology implanted, you will be required to carry it on you at all times. If you are caught without it, you will be detained and prosecuted.

ok, maybe one more time will help.

If you don't get it put in you, you'll have to carry it, or they'll punish you.

Is that plain enough yet?



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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Um yeah ok? Why are you so seemingly irritated?

That is exactly how the system works now with ID. If you do not have any, you get taken in.

absolutely no need to be so rude.

[edit on 28-3-2010 by spinalremain]



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
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Um yeah ok? Why are you so seemingly irritated?

That is exactly how the system works now with ID. If you do not have any, you get taken in.

Got it, guy?


I dont think that's 100% accurate currently.
I dont believe I'm required to have personal identification to simply move around.
Simply move around is the focus here.
Given the traffic stop, the current questions are drivers license, registration, and insurance.
When I enter a store or stadium or any public place of business I can do so currently without presenting identification, or having my location revealed or monitored.
If I'm simply moving around, where is the probable cause for detainment or arrest and charges stemming from?



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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I'll ask to be RFID'd?
I don't bloody think so!
Besides, I take it that most of this thinking applies to the USof A?
Since Canada isn't looking at this insanity, I suppose our immigration will increase!
Great, someone has to pay for my pension plan.
I say to the US, bring it.
Your neighbors need your unbrainwashed masses.
Thanks Uncle Sam, we want yours!


(cue the flamers 3, 2, 1)



posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter

Originally posted by spinalremain
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Um yeah ok? Why are you so seemingly irritated?

That is exactly how the system works now with ID. If you do not have any, you get taken in.

Got it, guy?


I dont think that's 100% accurate currently.
I dont believe I'm required to have personal identification to simply move around.
Simply move around is the focus here.
Given the traffic stop, the current questions are drivers license, registration, and insurance.
When I enter a store or stadium or any public place of business I can do so currently without presenting identification, or having my location revealed or monitored.
If I'm simply moving around, where is the probable cause for detainment or arrest and charges stemming from?



No you're absolutely correct. I was responding specifically to Maus for being taken in for not having the chip. Under current (NY law anyway), if an officer asks for ID and you do not provide any, it's handcuff time. Fact. That was all I was referring to. Obviously there are other differences with your OP to the current state of affairs.

Not sure where you're from, Happilieverafter, but in NY, a policaman can stop you if he feels like it. All he needs is a suspicion. He can ask for ID even if you're walking across the street. Of course it is not commonplace, but it happens if you look like you're up to no good. All they need is a suspicion to ask for ID and what you're up to.

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posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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I've been thinking about the changes that would come with the introduction of this technology and all of the areas it would affect.
Its a bit overwhelming and alarming and if I suggest some that seem questionable, its simply deserving of consideration before theyre dismissed out of hand.

Employment, and or unemployment.
Cashiers?
How many people currently provide for themselves and their loved ones filling this position?
You would still require a store manager(s) for questions or disputes at the point of sale but to simply "check out" you would no longer need cashiers.
How many positions would be eliminated? 50,000, 100,000 a half million?
Of course now the coporations just reduced workers comp payments, wages, H.R. responsibilities, healthcare payments, lost time accidents,
life insurance, background check expenses, daycare allocations, basically anything that was a line item attached to an employee.
They have also removed what the system requires to operate and that's money in circulation to continue commerce and tax revenues, local, state, and federal.

Privacy.
The ability to monitor and provide a record of your movement and location at all times.
Entering a store, a restaurant, a sporting event, passing a toll, attending a concert, entering work, any location where a reader is deemed required, and yes possibly even your home or residence.
There will be no question as to where you are, you will not be "leaving" a trail anymore, you will be "announcing" where you are entering, to the system.
Just the basic calling off of whatever job you may have, (maybe youre just burnt and tired and need a break) telling them youre sick, you had better well be recorded as "being home" or at the doctor, or be prepared to answer questions as to why you were recorded at (fill in the blank).
Your patterns, choices, purchases, wants, habits, desires, history, beliefs, practices, consumption, donations, health, wealth everything about you will be accessible to those deemed in the "need to know group" and you dont need to know who they are.





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