An European revolution coming near is what i hear

From my family members who are living in eupore there views on the the crisis are telling over the phone that everywhere you go in eupore is bad and in some places people are starting to steal money and other goods!

in bosnia for example muslims are getting angry over how there rich mujahideen freinds and leaders are stealing the wealth from the people and some how are now saying that things under Yugoslavia was better they jobs, homes, money and respect and even pride, now bosnia doesnt have any of that, whats even more, people are leaving bosnia for good.


Greece isnt anywhere good, people in Athens city are fighting and rioting even throwing home made bombs at embassies, and in other places aswell.



So the talk is

Serbia Condition: no good
Bosnia Condition: (Worse Since the war) mafias everywhere where you look.
Italy Condition: not even better, but no good to (Dont let the media dogs trick you)
Spain Condition: no good (i believe the conditions are the same italy)



So my ATS freinds what i am hearing that there might be a European revolution coming, when it will hit? is i dont know but i know it will happen, because the conditions arent better.

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I don't know about a revolution, but I could see the Balkans blowing up again.

I would also keep a close eye on how Russia reacts to any flare up in the Balkans.

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If the russian do come in the Balkans i hope they come with a huge army armada, and kick all NATO and american forces out, and from what i hear in bosnia you know that Old Inn hotel in bosnia? well it seems they are Turing into it an HQ base for the us army new base.


Funny how there are no reports about this eh?

It sounds like they are wanting a dictatorship style government back, am I right? They said things were better in Yugoslavia, which was communist. Apparently they didn't like their time under capitalism. What about Italy, Spain and Greece? I think Greece wants hardcore socialism or maybe communism while Italy looks like it wants Fascism. I don't know about Spain. IMO in Europe it looks like the extremists are growing again and more people are beginning to vote for the nationalist and far-right parties.

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Spain was fascist til 1975, when their dictator Franco, who Hitler helped put in power, died,

Maybe they miss the good old days

Originally posted by Misoir
It sounds like they are wanting a dictatorship style government back, am I right? They said things were better in Yugoslavia, which was communist. Apparently they didn't like their time under capitalism. What about Italy, Spain and Greece? I think Greece wants hardcore socialism or maybe communism while Italy looks like it wants Fascism. I don't know about Spain. IMO in Europe it looks like the extremists are growing again and more people are beginning to vote for the nationalist and far-right parties.

Yugoslavia was capitalist? Capitalism is privately regulated markets and private ownership of goods. Please tell me what percentage of the GDP was government controlled and what percentage of land was privately owned in that country. How easy was it to open a shop in a typical Yugoslavian city.

I ask because if you don't know these things then you don't know if the country is capitalist or not.

All studies I've seen of free markets and capitalist markets show that capitalism leads to a dramatic decrease in poverty. But show me what you've learned about how Yugoslavia has gone down the tubes due to capitalism.

Spain will most likely become the first Muslim Republic in Europe, sometime by 2020. I lived in Italy for a short while, and I can back up the truth here. Italy is really messed up.

Originally posted by DeltaCommando5
Spain will most likely become the first Muslim Republic in Europe, sometime by 2020. I lived in Italy for a short while, and I can back up the truth here. Italy is really messed up.

Well Spain used to be a Muslim country centuries ago. So was Sicily. I wouldn't be surprised if it returns to it.

Well I can tell you things in Spain aren't good either. I don't sense any revolution in the air, yet, but people are definitely not happy and many protests have taken place in recent weeks.

Townhalls haven't got any money and their latest scam is to fine people for everything and anything they can. For instance, there was a case in Euro Weekly (I think) that reported about how a road is closed for repairs and people living there have to go to their townhall to get passes and if they're caught on the road without a pass they're being fined. Another townhall - Estepona I believe, has no money and even had their phone lines disconnected. The people working there were using their own mobiles to make necessary calls.

There are blocks of houses and apartments that have remained empty, since they were built. Hotels on the Costa del Sol have closed for the winter season, for the first time ever because usually it's a year round destination.

Homes can be repossessed after just one late payment. People are having homes and land taken because the legal planning they received from the local townhall turns out not to be legal at all - the townhalls just wanted the money for giving permissions! (see front page of last week's SurinEnglish.com regarding the protests in Malaga).

Spanish citizens are moving in with each other, farming their land and working for cash. For us expats it's a bit more difficult as we don't have family to move in with and many of us have no land to farm. With so many expats leaving, there isn't a lot of work for the rest of us to do - Spanish tend to give work to other Spaniards and you can't blame them for that although the article in the Sur says that expats have brought in 7000 million euros so I don't know where that will leave Spain if the expats continue leaving at the rate they are?!

We're undecided on whether to stay here. Our friends and family tell us that there's no point moving back to Britain as it's getting worse there and no future for our children. On the other hand, Spain has double the British unemployment - we're at 20% overall unemployment and 44% of under 25s are unemployed. It's not just about employment though - with most of our friends having moved back to their respective countries already, we're missing a good support network of people to turn to, even just to talk things through with. All our friends that have moved back to Britain say it is much better than Spain but our friends and family that have never lived here tell us that we're better off here. We have to decide, where we'll personally choose to live, by the end of August so the children can start the new school year in September.

Basically, it's very tough here and I think it will get much worse in July when income tax and sales tax/VAT (IVA) goes up 1%. The pension age has also recently been increased to 67.

Not sure a European revolution is Brewing, people are unhappy, as they are across the globe.. but I wouldn't say any unhappier..

I do think the risk is the Balkans, which could blow, and could escalate out of control.. but even then I think we have a way to go before anything unpleasant happens in Europe.