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Michael the archangel...

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posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 01:59 PM

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Wandering Scribe
The bible says about Jesus:
"All things were created by Him and for Him.."
Before God Almighty put himself into human form, (Jesus), He was still God almighty. Like I said:
"Before Abraham was, I AM." ~ Jesus Christ
"The Bible" says.
How about a forgery in Paul's name, to a city that essentially no longer existed, that was an "official" go-ahead for the union of the secular with the ecclesiastical government that needed a retroactive proof text for something that was clearly wrong, the pontificate, which was unknown to the real person, Paul, the Apostle.
Look at that paragraph in your Bible and notice it is not about Jesus, so much as about the "cleansed and made holy" Imperial/Papal government, otherwise known as the Beast and the Anti-Christ.

[edit on 28-3-2010 by jmdewey60]

posted on Mar, 28 2010 @ 03:29 PM
The archangel is still fighting, remember that,
the father does not really fight from his position of oneness.
In pure oneness he is in rest, but he can leave that position.
It means the archangel is the state (a level of being)
that fights against the devil (accuser)
so it is the defender.
Defending is partly still an attack,
until everything gets defended,
it means it is the place where the devil
gets erased inside of the son.
It means eye for eye, judgement releases
judgements in Michael, in the son,
god becomes free, and everything good,
the night changes into day, the lie
into truth.

Christ is the body of god,
god is one in his personal and impersonal.
Truth is both the same always as alive
in himself.

Michael is the symbol for the son,
the part that lives in the truth,
which means the stage before oneness in Will.

Will is the jerusalem, and is the father himself,
that father can come down in a body,
will confined in a body, giving up part of his will,
still in his will, to bring the world hope.

God only comes down to bring hope and fullfill
reason and function, but his body will be all,
as it always is all. Personal and impersonal together.
If people worhsip the face they see without the
body as all, including themselves, they actually
can not see god, and worship an angel,
if they worship the all, including everything,
they worship god, which is all.

Thats why god forgives himself,
because he is all. Part of god that is out of gods oneness,
living this world, as humans,
does not strive forgive himself, and
becomes No God. And there is only
god, so this is death, the beast of ignorance,
or no growth, meaning, no cross.
A cross is gods cross, and means
god carries his cross through all that
wants to be part of his oneness.

[edit on 28-3-2010 by pasttheclouds]

posted on Mar, 29 2010 @ 12:00 AM
You have some very basic things messed up. Christ does not mean "Lord come in the flesh." Christ is the greek word for Messiah which means "anointed."

The true revelation of Jesus Christ is the entire process of how he and the Father take up residence inside a persons physical body. We are living in such a critical time period, that it is imperative that we don't accidently lead people off the actual true path, that leads to life.

You say the mystery of Rev 10:7 has to do with Michael? Wrong. The mystery has to do with what makes a prophet a prophet in the first place. All prophets have one thing in common - they have all experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit. It is this sacred baptism, that produces the Son of God inside us. It is the anticipated manifestation of the true power of God, to be bestowed (eventually) upon all who truly believe the messages.

Jesus himself likens this baptism, to the birthing of a woman (John 17:19-24). There is no richer joy than to realize Christ is really inside you. God's fullness dwells in Jesus and the same wonderful fullness can dwell in every Tom, Dick and Harry. There is an open invite to all who follow the commands that came out of the mouth of Jesus, and John before him. The result of this love baptism that surpasses knowledge is the man-child spoken of in Revelation.

The true "church" that makes up the body of Christ produces the man-child and the false church is "mystery babylon." Go back and look at all the times Jesus referred to himself as the "Son of Man" and you're going to have an "a-ha" moment like you wouldn't believe. The truth is all there, all a person has to do is apply the words and teachings. Claiming the words for oneself is a pivital turning point in your relationship with Jesus. Make oneself a part of the story, in their heart and mind and who knows..... before you finish going through all the towns of Israel......the Son of Man might come.

But remember the path to life is narrow and few find it. And stay away from the people with the little pamphlets, they mean well but they have somehow been misguided. They don't even pronounce God's name right - that's huge!

[edit on 29-3-2010 by Myrtales Instinct]

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