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Mass Immigration kills Aussie culture

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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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After some research into the matter I must humbly concede that I was wrong and was unaware of quite how much of Oz was uninhabitable.

I apologise for my flippant and admittedly ignorant remarks.

Thank you for the education and helping me to deny ignarance




posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to say that us having ~70 million people is a good thing, it's not. We are severely over populated and it's putting a great strain on our infrastructure. After I stopped being a prat and educated myself on the situation, I can now fully appreciate how the Aussies feel, as we are in the same boat.



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by nik1halo
After some research into the matter I must humbly concede that I was wrong and was unaware of quite how much of Oz was uninhabitable.


We also have other problems. We didn't actually plan anything very well or at all in many cases.

We've expanded too far and can't sustain populations in the outer areas without large expenditures. The actual infrastructure of our cities cannot really support massive influxes of new development.

Services in the bush are a constant issue in Australian life.

In Queensland we have a very big problem where housing prices here are very cheap in comparison to other states (housing is very expensive in Australia) so many people from down south are moving up here. But the government can't afford to run services to all these new communities so they have to limit the areas where development can occur.

Our water management policy has been very very flawed over the decades and the Murray Darling river system and it's condition can effect living conditions in the southern states very strongly. They often fight over water.

What areas we can inhabit are often given over to our primary industries like agriculture. We can only sustain the economy by exporting vast amounts of commodities.

We also have the government going around locking up vast areas of land from commercial or personal use for environmental protection purposes. Many peoples land rights are under threat.

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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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That's cool man! If ever you come here, I'll buy you a beer!

IRM



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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I live just down the road and you've never bought me a beer !!!!


And I even helped you out with those Laxettes the other week too *cries*

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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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Our water management policy has been very very flawed over the decades and the Murray Darling river system and it's condition can effect living conditions in the southern states very strongly. They often fight over water.


The northern states steal all the Murray's water, there is almost nothing left by the time it reaches us in South Aust. They irrigate cotton and rice for f*cksake!. Flawed is an understatement.

Offtopic yeah, but it p*sses me off.



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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the title of this thread was enough for me to flag it...
...now i'll read it!



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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I think mistakes however been made, however even so, the past is the past. The Aboriginals may of lost their homes over a century ago, however today we are in charge, and it is up-to us to make responsibly control immigration in order to prevent social problems and preserve Australian culture. On the flip side, immigrants are necessary to help the economy as the baby-boomers retire.


Just a bunch of hyprocrites and racists if you ask me.

LOL. You registered to ATS just to say that? I wonder why... probably got denied entry or was kicked out... hahahaa

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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Funk bunyip



Our water management policy has been very very flawed over the decades and the Murray Darling river system and it's condition can effect living conditions in the southern states very strongly. They often fight over water.


The northern states steal all the Murray's water, there is almost nothing left by the time it reaches us in South Aust. They irrigate cotton and rice for f*cksake!. Flawed is an understatement.

Offtopic yeah, but it p*sses me off.


Spot on, Funk Bunyip...

Cotton and rice have no business been grown in an arid place like Australia...



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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2 stars... straight up...

caught the train recently in Beenleigh to Brisbane and back again...
...pulled up at Logan Lea station and there were hundreds on the platform.
Not one white person. Me and some old digger were the only white people in our carriage.
Now i'm not racist. I was just a little concerned as to where everyone of my ethnic background had gone to!

Is it the governments way of saying sorry to the Aboriginals! "White man didn't take over your country! The Africans and Islanders and the Indians and the Lebanese did too!"



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Politicians are petrified to mention the issue assertively because when they do they are labelled as racists and xenophobes.


Not true!
Politicians were not at all afraid to be called racists for not calling many attacks on specific minority groups as racist attacks, it took so much from foreing media for the aussie govt. to finally say "ok some of the attacks were racially motivated". Being afraid of being called racist or xenophobic represents 0% of whatever fear they have that you are trying to portray.


Also the you speak of impact on economy.
But that's why they are there though, the aussie govt. is too scared to address the issue?


Oh they are addressing it alright, by advertising more and more and more foreing students come there to study while the aussies make loads of money of that. Interesting how this article fails to mentions this, very interesting indeed.

So what? Soon the "now-native" aussies will soon be called the Lost Generation. Hey... remember them?



There are several hundred Indigenous peoples of Australia, many are groupings that existed before the British annexation of Australia in 1788. Before Europeans, the number was over 400.

Indigenous or groups will generally talk of their "people" and their "country". These countries are ethnographic areas, usually the size of an average European country, with around two hundred on the Australian continent at the time of White arrival.

Within each country, people lived in clan groups - extended families defined by the various forms Australian Aboriginal kinship. Inter-clan contact was common, as was inter-country contact, but there were strict protocols around this contact.

www.crystalinks.com...


What are you complainign about?



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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Funny you should say that, I've got an Aussie mate, who's planning a visit home in a couple of months and I'm thinking of taking him up on his offer to join him, so you might find me on your doorstep waiting for that beer



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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It's the same as here in the UK. In fact English culture died long ago. If you mention anything about it then you're labelled a right wing racist. In fact the crazy immigration going on here is a great example of how the government can get away with doing things that the people don't want, drum it into their heads through the msm that anyone who disagrees with the level of immigration is a racist and voila! the government can keep flooding them in and people are too afraid to talk about it.



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by spearhead

Now i'm not racist. I was just a little concerned as to where everyone of my ethnic background had gone to!


They're all over here working in the Walklabout Bars mate!



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:26 AM
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Well, I never.
That's all I have words for here.
What a load of camel manure.
I am sure a WIDER spectrum of aussie minds have entered this thread before me,
but I have just read the first few posts and that was enough for me to comment.
Unless the OP is of black fella descent then he/she doesn't have a leg to stand on with this thread.
And I know they aren't because they wouldn't be talking recent history but send a boomerang in all directions at any white fella on australian soil over the last 200+ years, no matter his origin.
What do you think current day aussie culture IS?!
If you can define it for me ,I am sure we will all be that more enlightened to your stance and statement.
For non aussies, I would like to say this is a minority viewpoint and this poster does not speak for the majority of Australians.
For your information, one of the main winning points our pm Kevin Rudd's election campaign back in 2007 was the promotion of an apology to the indigenous people. "Sorry " day was just about the first thing he created or acted upon once he was elected.



It was a wonderful thing and one for which 80% of polled aussies wanted to happen so we could assimilate and move on together as one and DEVELOP a modern day culture together.Regardless of Rudd's political play,it was needed and in the grass roots matters, regardless of the later mishandling of aboriginal affairs by this government.Little steps,it is what peoples hearts feel that matters not government agendas.
Can I direct the OP to the elders statement in the video at 1:32 seconds.
You seek to perpetuate one of the uglier sides of any society....racism,
yet these long-suffering people forgive many abuses and seek to move on as one.....what is YOUR agenda besides trolling?





As it stands, Aussie culture is Anglo Saxon/ American in daily reality...just like all "western" nations in the modern day "western" culture.
Add to that the aging population of native white Australians and one wonders why the op objects to new immigrants when it is their labour and efforts that will support him/her in retirement.

The only people entitled to make the statement that immigration is destroying Aussie culture are Australia's indigenous people.....bottom line.
I have seen a lot of these narrow-minded troll-like threads re Australia recently,especially re racism, I wonder what it means.
Especially since generally we all get along just fine in reality!

In summary ,modern day Australia has yet to develop a culture, thanks largely to such small backward looking minds that create threads such as this as a distraction to inventing one.
Please hear statement at 5:00 minutes to hear a true Aussie attitude.






edit ti fix video link
edit the second, to add pointer to video statement at 5:00 minutes

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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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I honestly don't consider skin colour or race as a factor... if someone speaks with an Australian accent, to me they are an Australian.

Immigration has made this country great, but it has to be balanced. We should not tolerate ANY racial group who wants to come and bring THEIR issues and cultural disputes from their homeland here. If your culture is so great back home.. why didn't you just f*cking stay there?



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by asIam
It was a wonderful thing and one for which 80% of polled aussies wanted to happen so we could assimilate and move on together as one and DEVELOP a modern day culture together.


As I've said previously ITT I am an abbo and I can grudgingly accept that yes even I really don't have a choice but to assimilate.

We really are in this together and we have developed a culture. Anyone that says otherwise is ignorant. The idea of a "fair go" is really what Australian culture is.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a Marxist idea but it's also a socialist idea. And Australia is a capitalist/socialist democracy. This is our culture.

To suddenly turn around and throw all this away by pursuing some "Big Australia" policy isn't in the best interests of the commonwealth.


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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Politicians are petrified to mention the issue assertively because when they do they are labelled as racists and xenophobes.


Not true!
Politicians were not at all afraid to be called racists for not calling many attacks on specific minority groups as racist attacks, it took so much from foreing media for the aussie govt. to finally say "ok some of the attacks were racially motivated".


Oh.. you failed to mention that two of the main (white on color) racist attacks you were pointing the finger with and whinging about on this forum turned out to be:

a) Indians killing & burning Indians over money.
b) Indian burning himself in a botched insurance scam.

You kind of disappeared when that information came out. No apologies for you racial jibes... And getting it Oh so wrong! Yet here you are again hoping that memories are short. Well there's plenty of us that remember your poor form on the forum man.

Here's a new update for you!

c) Illegal Immigrant Indian man on forged visa kills baby Indian boy then dumps the body with his girlfriend. Who needs intruders when someone like that lives in a shared house with you eh!

IRM


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posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:47 AM
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Unless the OP is of black fella descent then he/she doesn't have a leg to stand on with this thread. And I know they aren't because they wouldn't be talking recent history but send a boomerang in all directions at any white fella on australian soil over the last 200+ years, no matter his origin. What do you think current day aussie culture IS?! If you can define it for me ,I am sure we will all be that more enlightened to your stance and statement.


wow you're okka as bro :-p

define Austalian culture? define any culture and you are selling it short.
An Australian is only so by being so.
;-)



posted on Mar, 24 2010 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Retrovertigo
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I live just down the road and you've never bought me a beer !!!!


And I even helped you out with those Laxettes the other week too *cries*

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The Laxettes were fine man. You just kinda freaked me out with the whole Colonic Irrigation thing! I guess that deserves a beer though man. I've got a coldie waiting for ya!

IRM



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